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N.C. State Nusings and Random Stats

I'm hoping someone ask Mark Gottfried if it is now ok for The Great Jim Boeheim to "pop off." Because if it is, there are some demands I'd like Coach Boeheim to start making of The ACC. For one, lets not cancel games over two inches of snow.

UNC fan Joshua McIntyre, while clearly an idiot, would likely agree with that demand.

Records

Boeheim vs. NC. State 4-1

vs. Les Robinson 1-0

vs. Herb Sendeck 1-1

vs. Sidney Lowe 1-0

vs. Mark Gottfried 1-0

Big East School N.C. State Reminds me of: DePaul Ray Meyer coached DePaul from 1942-84 and took them to two Final Fours. They were one of the elite programs in college basketball. But to people under the age of 30, DePaul is just that Conference USA school that some how got to be the Big East doormat. I view N.C. State in a similar sense. Decades ago, long before any of their players were born, they were more than a mediocre school. Unlike today, they were viewed as being a better program than Wake, Charlotte, Asheville, Wilmington and N.C. Central. They were actually considered to be near the level of UNC and Duke, believe it or not. But in this Modern Era of College Basketball since the Tournament expanded to 64 schools in 1985, they've never reached a Final Four and have had post season success much more similar to DePaul than say UNC. Just look at the numbers:

64 School Tournament Era Results (1985-Present)

DePaul: 9 NCAA Tournaments, 0 Final Fours, Advanced past 1st rd. 5x

N.C. State: 11 NCAA Tournaments, 0 Final Fours, Advanced past 1st rd. 8x

North Carolina: 27 NCAA Tournaments, 9 Final Fours, Advanced past 1st rd. 26x

Player I think of When I think of N.C. State: Julius Hodge

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Like most Syracuse fans I love Julius Hodge, and it has nothing to do with his "accomplishments" at N.C. State. I love Julius Hodge for taking the Wolfpack's money (allegedly), and not coming to Syracuse. Before that (alleged) bribe, he was all set to wear Orange. For Hodge's part, he's subsequently claimed that it wasn't just the money (allegedly) that made him decide not to come to Syracuse:

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No hard feelings Julius. Because when you took the money (allegedly), it opened up a scholarship for another guy, and it worked out pretty well for SU, as he went on to be a 2x A.P. All-American, a Big East POY, and helped hang a National Championship banner. Something N.C. State used to do way back when DePaul was still considered an elite program.

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Individual Boeheim vs. N.C. State Results

Dec. 1990 @SU; #4 Syracuse 86, #10 N.C. State 79; Dave Johnson 24 pts

Feb. 2001 @NCST; #12 Syracuse 54, N.C. State 53; Preston Shumpert 25 pts

Dec. 2001 @SU; N.C. State 82, #9 Syracuse 68; Preston Shumpert 29 pts

Dec. 2010 @SU; #8 Syracuse 65, N.C. State 59; Scoop Jardine 23 pts

Dec. 2011 @NCST #1 Syracuse 88, N.C. State 72; Dion Waiters 22 pts

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