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Syracuse, Pitt Floating In Breeze, Unable To Vote In ACC Or Big East

This isn't a really shocking revelation, I suppose, and I don't think it will amount to anything. I just find it very curious, funny and borderline illegal-ish.

According to ACC Commissioner John Swofford, neither school actually had a vote in today's divisional placement..

Via The Daily Press' David Teel:

While the primary issue of when Syracuse and Pitt will arrive is unresolved, Swofford said "the good thing (is) we’ve been able to address the competition questions."

Officials frpm Syracuse and Pitt "were full participants (in the discussions)," Swofford said, "short of having a formal vote. They were fully agreeable and supportive of the end points."

It all worked out for the schools so there's nothing to complain about. However it reveals just how precarious a situation both schools find themselves in during the interim. The Big East has shunned both programs from votes and discussions that affect that conference and the ACC has yet to allow them to vote on conference matters there. The two schools are basically at the mercy of both conferences until they've officially left one for the other, and neither has too much incentive to favor the schools until then.

I'm more concerned with how the Big East will wield this power than the ACC. I'm still pretty sure that both schools will get screwed on scheduling next year. Not that we need any more reasons to want to get this ball rolling, but, add this one to the list.

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Just curious

As a current full-fledged member of the BE (at least until we leave), how is it that SU is legally kept out of discussions that affect them in the conference? Did they automatically forfeit all rights the day they announced they were leaving in the future? I can see not having a say about what happens in 2015, but not about something that somehow affects the program now (such as scheduling).

by firstmatewiggles on Feb 3, 2012 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

If we had a say in scheduling

we’d be playing Georgetown twice this year, no?

by adselver15 on Feb 3, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure.

I assume G’town wants us twice a year as much as we want them, and they’re still a full-fledged/voting member.

by firstmatewiggles on Feb 3, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the problem is most Big East schools want to play us twice a year

Even if we aren’t rivals with them just take a look at the crowd sizes when we’re on the road.

by crouton on Feb 3, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesnt seem to make sense

If we have to stay until 2014, we get a say until then. Otherwise, let us go.

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by Sean Keeley on Feb 3, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

well, I guess you've never been divorced!!

then you’d know… you gotta stick around ‘til it’s over and you can’t say a thing!!

by OrangeNutz on Feb 3, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Sean, if you were an absolute magician, well, you would just get

rid of Su.com Football posters. I just can’t take it any more. Doodie and Dr Sideline are making me sick. You are the guy. Tell the Post Standard to get rid of these turds. Please

by rutgirl on Feb 3, 2012 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

WVU and the Big East are in non-binding mediation

to be resolved on 9 Feb. If it goes in WVU’s favor expect SU and Pitt to push for the same result.

by jcase0 on Feb 4, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think we want the same result

… even if we could get it (SU is a private school, so we don’t have the same legal immunities that WVU does). SU & Pitt are pretty much fine with playing in the Big East next year, and while the Big East almost certainly will get an exemption from the NCAA to play with seven teams for next year if it needs, five might be another story. I’m not sure what the Big East does in that case – play an 8 game home and home in football?

What we want is to be in the ACC for the 2013-2014 academic year.

by drothgery on Feb 4, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

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