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As The Big East Turns: Hi Temple, We Were In A Weird Place, Please Take Us Back

Update: Boise officially says it's not coming until 2013.

Beggers can't be choosers and the Big East and its football members are certainly beggers at this point. Half the schools still need to fill two open slots on their 2012 football schedule and the list of available FBS opponents is disconcerting.

Simply put, the Big East need more members in 2012 and, despite reports that the Boise St. Broncos might do it, it looks like the Temple Owls will be the ones returning to the conference next season, this time as a full partner.

The Big East is in discussions to add Temple for all sports as early as the next school year, according to someone briefed on the talks. Temple belongs to the Mid-American Conference and the Atlantic 10 in various sports and there are legal issues that have to be dealt with before the Owls would be able to leave. A resolution is expected this month.

As we all remember, Temple was basically kicked out of the league in 2004 for being awful and drawing roughly 87 fans to their home games. I don't care how you spin it, it's embarrassing that the Big East now finds itself crawling back to the Owls, not only asking them to return but inviting them as a full member.

The truth is, like so many recent moves, the Big East should have added Temple years ago. Or at least never kicked them out and added them as an all-sport member. Temple basketball brings some fantastic tradition. Shame they eventually make it as a stop-loss and not for smart reasons.

The move HAS TO have the Villanova Wildcats rightfully pissed off. Not only does it bring another conference school into the mix from the same city, but it eliminates whatever small desire remained for them to ever become a football member. Who needs an "expansion" football member playing in a soccer stadium when we've already got a so-so one in the same town playing in an NFL stadium?

Not to mention that having two Big East basketball teams in the same city will affect the bottom line for both of them.

If it ends up panning out, it solves one immediate headache for the Syracuse Orange. Instead of needing to fill two open football spots, they only need to fill one. If Temple were to simply take over West Virginia's schedule, that means the Orange would play in Philly for the first time since 2004 (a game we lost, it should be noted). That also means SU absolutely needs to make that final game a home game, and that's the tough part.

At this point, whatever works. The Big East is already some weird mish-mash, adding Temple won't change that. Plus, the idea of a Syracuse - Temple basketball game is pretty appealing. Besides, it's only for one year (fingers crossed).

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by Rich Pageant on Feb 22, 2012 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

Sources told CBSSports.com, the reason the Big East decided to go beyond 12 football members is because the league is preparing for the possibility it will lose Louisville if the Big 12 decides to expand by at least another team.

Multiple sources have told CBSSports.com that Louisville is the consensus choice for the Big 12’s 11th member, if the league expands, and that the Cardinals would accept an invitation to the Big 12.

This is about as close to “forward-thinking” and “proactive” as it gets for Marinatto. “Defeatist” and “uncompetitive” also come to mind. Anyway…see ya, suckers!

(Temple is actually a pretty good addition to the BE though…probably should have been the first team to come, not the last. PS – Villanova: you snooze, you lose. Money that is.)

by DMF on Feb 22, 2012 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

there's really no way to spin this move (or Memphis, for that matter)

as anything other than trying to keep the non-football schools from bolting when Louisville and/or UConn leaves.

by drothgery on Feb 22, 2012 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

This is great.

Not for the Big East so much, but I actually like the thought of getting another shot at Temple in football. Time for a little payback.

Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!

by NOLACuse on Feb 22, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

alt.history where Syracuse beats Temple in 2004 is interesting...

We win the Big East outright and get to lose the Fiesta Bowl to Utah instead of Pitt. Coach P is not fired, so Ray Rice goes to Syracuse. Which means Rutgers never gets to fake being good, and no Greg Robinson. But late Coach P wasn’t very good either, just not as bad as GERG.

by drothgery on Feb 22, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Urban Meyer and the undefeated Utes would have slaughtered the Orange. HOWEVER, I would have said that my life is fulfilled, and I can go off to a deserted island to live out my years. I’d have to do one of those half Utah/half Syracuse sweatshirts.

Go Cuse. Go Utes. Go Kings (hockey version). Go Panthers (hockey version). Go Marlins. Go Dodgers. I despise the NFL and NBA, so don't bore me.

by LeftCoastMan on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I've talked about this one a lot actually

That 2005 team actually had a ton of talent. Something like 7 or 8 guys on defense that got on an NFL roster or practice squad at some point. Add Ray Rice to the offense and they were at minimum a bowl team.

GRob just ruined them.

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by Lots of Pulp on Feb 23, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's actually possible that alternate history still ends with Marrone as the coach.

Coach P was on thin ice at that point (clearly) but a Big East victory and BCS bowl bid would have kept him around at least one more season. With Ray Rice on board and continuity I figure we are good for a bowl or two more, but probably not much else. So Coach P hangs on, but only for two more seasons probably. Maybe three. All the while Marrone is watching and waiting. Building an updating his binder. I have to believe he angles for the job and is considered even if it’s a year or two earlier than it was in reality. Then Marrone inherits the program in decent stead as opposed to the bottom of the BCS.

Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!

by NOLACuse on Feb 23, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The news out here is that Boise St. is staying for 2012

Time for the Cuse to leave this POS conference.

Go Cuse. Go Utes. Go Kings (hockey version). Go Panthers (hockey version). Go Marlins. Go Dodgers. I despise the NFL and NBA, so don't bore me.

by LeftCoastMan on Feb 22, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

no

MAC wasn’t going to a 9-game conference schedule this season, and with 13 teams a 9-game schedule is impossible.

by drothgery on Feb 23, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

East Carolina

I wonder how depressed East Carolina must be right now. They have been actively campaigning for a spot in the BE for years now, and now it’s apparent that they weren’t in the BE’s top 10 for expansion candidates.

by Conrad13 on Feb 23, 2012 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

What a great move!

Despite this article… everyone has been telling us this is about Football, not Basketball… well Villanova is not a FBS worthy program, not only is it not ready to move up, but has absolutely no stadium plans to meet FBS requirements. This gives the Big East a rising football program, the #12 team for two divisions come 2013 for a new television contract. Also because the television contracts are weighted heavily on football, it gives the conference added value with the Philadelphia market on the gridiron side. The marketability of another ranked basketball program — who knocked off Duke in the last month is a win too! I’m sure, this was sold as we did everything to protect Villanova, but the reality for the best of the conference was there was no other option but to add Temple as an all-sport member and obviously did so overwhelmingly (if not unanimously) or this discussion wouldn’t be happening. Now the questions happen to what other program OR two will be brought on to balance the schedules, if Louisville bolts in 2-3 years.

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by jmacgregorny on Feb 23, 2012 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

The song that will likely be playing during the intro press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg

Marinatto’s gotta show he knows what the kids like.

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by JohnCassillo on Feb 23, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

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