Syracuse 74 - Rutgers 64: My Fair Gentleman
I was watching the Syracuse Orange - Rutgers Scarlet Knights game with @ShayColson and we were remarking about how messy the whole endeavor had been when he said, "this is like a really good high school game."
I thought that was perfect in describing Syracuse's 74-64 win over Rutgers on Sunday. A game full of messy miscues, strange mental decisions and a seemingly-unwavering desire to improve on any of them, all of which you would have excused if you were watching your local high school team instead of your Division 1 college basketball team that's ranked No. 2 in the nation.
Look, a win's a win and we should all consider ourselves so lucky as to watch a team that's now 27-1 overall and 14-1 in the Big East. But Jesus guys, do you have to make it look so ugly? (I checked, you don't)
C.J. Fair led the Orange with a career-high of 21 points. Fair also played more than anyone else in the Syracuse lineup and went 8-8 from the line. He's also scored double-digits in four of the last five games. We're witnessing the true emergence of Fair from a scoring standpoint (Marrone'd) and I can't help but think 'Thank God' to make up for the lack of scoring that seems to be coming from so many others.
And I can't not mention C.J.'s reverse alley-oop slam. Good lord the kid is a human highlight reel.
Scoop Jardine added 17 points, seven assists and about five "no, no, no, YES!" moments down the stretch to ice the win. Kris Joseph had 14 points and Fabricio Melo finished with 10 points, six rebounds and a pair of blocks for the Orange, who have won seven in a row.
Dion Waiters was all over the place, scoring seven but turning the ball over three times and drawing three fouls.After scoring in double-digits in nine-straight games, Waiters has only reached the mark twice in the last seven contests.
Rutgers outrebounded the Orange but the Scarlet Knights had a dreadful shooting night from the three-point arc (16.7 percent), which balanced things out.
Once again the final score acts to distance the Orange from just how close this game really was. They seem to be building up a tendency to play extremely close games only to pull away in the end no matter the quality of the opponent. Whether they play down to their competition is up for discussion, but it's evident that the Orange continue to have big problems in the paint and a severe case of Flatfooted Rebounding Attempts. I lost track of how many times I saw a Rutgers player run to the basket on a shot while everyone in orange stood there waiting for the ball to come to them (except Fab, who seems more agile than the guards at times).
I'm very curious about this upcoming South Florida game. The Bulls are no pushover this year and the Orange continue to show a lot of character and heart but only after they've spent a good portion of the game showing a lot of flaws. It could get them into serious trouble one of these days. On one hand, this was a Big East road game and you always just want to survive and advance. On the other hand, Rutgers is 12-15 and our team is full of All-Big East talent.
And now is the time on Sprockets when Jim Burr dances.
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"The Bulls are no pushover this year"
That may be true but they still aren’t any good. They only have 4 top 150 (!) wins. Best win is Seton Hall and we can debate if that win is any good at this point. Their offense is brutal. If USF beats Cuse at the Dome I’ll buy a hat and eat it. South Florida has no business being in that game.
I watched them play Nova the other night and the score at the half, I think, was 19-19.
Plus, USF has had a cupcake home schedule.
As for SU, that game was never in any doubt. I didn’t watch it all, but 5 minutes in I could tell Syracuse was a much better team. And isn’t college ball always just a much better high school game?
CJ Fair is gettin all growns up right before our eyes. He works on his 3, he’ll be ridiculous.
I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.
by Fly Rodder on Feb 19, 2012 4:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
If there really were 14 scouts at the game
We might need to be worried. However with Joseph gone next year, CJ has an opportunity to be a 20-10 guy next year.
CJ next year
and James Southerland the year after. Both of them can be amazing. I think it’s just taking James a year longer to realize it.
Is Southie redshirting next year?
He’s a junior this year, so I don’t know about the year after next….
A game like this
Is why I’m kinda of shocked when people say CJ “might” or “has a chance to” make the NBA when he decides to go. Is he a flashy or dominant 1 on 1 player? No. But all the things he does well translate into an effective NBA player. He cuts the lane, finds the open spot, rebounds, defends can hit an open jumper out to the 3. He doesn’t need to make 13 moves to get a shot off. He’s Brandon Bass or Carl Landry. Those guys are invaluable to their teams.
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 20, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
but we just barely beat a 12-15 team. I’m not about to overlook USF
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Barely by the scoreboard
But did you ever truly doubt the outcome?
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 20, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Jim Burr has reffed 5 of our games this year - None at the Dome
4 Road + 1 MSG
At least they know to keep him away from our fans. (Cue MSG is a home game trolling)
Go Cuse!
....And Georgetown still sucks!
CRS/HST '05
I remember hearing someone saying that coaches get to choose a ref that they don’t want at home in a season, so it appears that Boeheim chose Burr.

Go Cuse!
....And Georgetown still sucks!
CRS/HST '05
by nymetsfan1226 on Feb 19, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
No way
that can be true. It would make it impossible to schedule refs for games. What if half the conference said they didn’t want Burr? (which would make sense since he stinks). There wouldn’t be enough refs.
Plus
The refs would have to be able to figure out who didn’t want them. I could see it if you could pick one ref who never does any of your games, but if they’re still reffing your road games they aren’t going to be too kind to a coach who basically said he sucks.
If only there was a way to figure out who the lousy refs were and weed them out.....
Go Cuse!
....And Georgetown still sucks!
CRS/HST '05
by nymetsfan1226 on Feb 19, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
this may have already been in the game thread i wasn't on
but anyone else notice the resemblance of biruta to tyrion from GoT?

I was thinking the same exact thing!
Only I don’t watch GoT so I was thinking, “That’s Miles Finch from Elf!”
I'm sorry but the #2 team in the nation can't play Rutgers like this
We can’t play the last four games the way we have and be confident going into the NCAA tournament. We are regressing. A win is a win, no doubt. But we were dominating teams early on in the season. Now we are escaping teams.
I don't know what to think anymore....
My half glass full persona says that they play every game with a target on their back, and to win at the RAC today was a feat in itself. Rutgers played out of their mind, Cuse played worse than they should but they’d still beat 99% of the teams they’d play in the tourney on a neutral court.
The indecisive person in me says meh. They could have played better, they could have played worse.
The half glass empty person thinks we’re in big trouble come tourney time.
I seriously as a fan have no idea how I feel anymore about these guys.
Laxadasical
That’s how I’d describe everyone on this team not from Baltimore.
by adselver15 on Feb 19, 2012 6:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait a minute
CJ Fair is from Baltimore???
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that'd be like saying Scoop and Dion are cousins
but are they?
by JB44ever on Feb 19, 2012 6:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Just like Melo
Or The Wire. Also I have noticed a high level o snitching recently on this site. Do not snitch. Also drunk in Manhattan after an SU win is fantastic.
P.S. Jim Burr is even worse live than on tv.
The Hoyas shuffled off with their twin cocktails of discontent - Dana O'neil 2/18/10
by Boscoball on Feb 19, 2012 6:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I heard hes realll fat and old in person
On TV he only comes off as blind and dumb.
On one hand
Yeah they haven’t played as good as they were earlier in the year. On the other hand they’ve shown that they can win slow, low possession games even if the half court offense resembles a two months old liquefied carrot. I’d say they need to get back to playing “their” style of basketball, but at this point I don’t even know if they even have one.
I’ve seen people rightfully complain that this, and previous teams, tend to play up or down to their opponent but what’s better? A team that needs to play a specific way to win, or a team that can play their opponents style better than their opponent?
for anyone who was at the game what was the student section chanting at fab when he was at the free throw line?
by Cameron Crapsandwich McCarthy on Feb 19, 2012 7:54 PM EST reply actions
A few things
Hooked-on-phonics
You-are-ugly
You-can’t-read
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I always giggle when people talk about him being "dumb"
English is like his fourth language. God forbid someone have trouble taking classes taught in their fourth language.
Serious question
Anyone ever heard a student section tell a white player that they can’t read?
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
When was Devo ever accused of stealing anything
That fits with AJ Price and Marcus Williams, but not Devo
by DukePettyjohn on Feb 19, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
thats not very creative
or accurate really…should’ve gone with woman beater clap clap clap-clap-clap –
not that he was, just that its a better chant.
Was it hell week big game let down hangover that stunted the RU game?
Hoping for a bounce back performance against a decent USF team
Bubba Army
by AdirondackOrange on Feb 19, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions
Calm down people.
It was the RAC.
We win.
Move on.
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
by StrawHatGuy on Feb 19, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ditto
I’ll admit that I thought this game would be over with 5 minutes left in the 1st half. But I think what a lot of us overlook is that the other team comes to play too. They’re not like, “Oh, we’re playing Syracuse, let’s just get this over with so we can go play MW3.” Plus, there’s the whole “getting up to play the #2 team in the nation” thing, if you believe in all that.
I still think that the game should have been over as soon as the Orange got off the bus and that they didn’t play spectacular ball. But a W is a W and, honestly, as close as the game was for 37 1/2 minutes, I never once felt as if Syracuse wasn’t in control or was in danger of losing. It wasn’t a heart pounder for me.
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 20, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Biggest story line of the day
is that Scoop and Dion might not be cousins. I feel like everything I’ve ever known is a lie. Next they’ll tell us that Andy Rautins isn’t really Howard Triche’s nephew.
by Rocklionheart on Feb 19, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
well done sir
Just burst into laughter.
by nc44 on Feb 19, 2012 8:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sportscenter have top 10 on sundays?
like to know where CJs oop lands
You keep chanting one more year, I thought college was four years
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Feb 19, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions
Depends, did the Clippers play today?
If they did, all 10 of them will be average dunks by Blake Griffin.
I swear, the guy could make a layup and they’d play it off as the most exciting dunk of all time. Which sucks because I like watching him play.
Lin played, so he should fill up the top 10 by himself...
maybe they will have top 10 plays of the weekend by Lin or something
You keep chanting one more year, I thought college was four years
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Feb 19, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
They don’t have much to play for right now. Get em to the tourney RT @BobDiTullio:two rough games in a row for SU Seth……thoughts???
— Seth Davis (@SethDavisHoops) February 20, 2012
And that is what I will continue to tell myself
if we play USF tight on Wednesday
"We don't lose hat and t-shirt games" - Tedy Bruschi
What's up with the kid wearing a Syracuse Baseball hoodie sitting next to Gross?
Does ’Cuse still have a club team?
I played at Le Moyne during your years.
I recall we beat you in a scrimmage.
Yeah right
Like LeMoyne would beat Syracuse in an exhibition of anything.
This is the team
They won’t get any better; no team will at this point in the season. From here out it is how they play and what strategies they employ. They haven’t looked great, but keep in mind they:
1) Have proven they can win close games, something in doubt a month ago
2) They have won in hostile environments
3) They are winning while teams slow them down
4) They are winning primarily from points in the half court offense
It is not pretty, but they get the job done. South Florida will be another slow down, grind it out borefest. Get ready.
'No team will at this point...'
Ask last year’s UConn team
Ask almost any Sparty team.
It happens…but I do understand what you’re saying. We know they’re the best team in the country when they play to their potential…which they have done in big spots.
RIght now it’s about locking up a 1-seed and hoping they bring it in the dance.
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
Why watching games is important
I missed this one. I had to teach a workshop and then I was somehow committed to a trip to the zoo. I got to listen to the first few minutes of the second half, listened to the post game call in stuff, read the recap and fall out here.
The box score doesn’t describe a game like the radio broadcast, call-ins, and this here thread. I see a game in which we shot 50% from the field and 41.7% from 3. I see a game where we got outrebounded, sure, but only by 5. A game with nine steals and six blocks and only ten turnovers. A game where we got to the line 31 times (and, granted, missed ten of them).
The only flaw I really see in the box score is that we only forced 12 turnovers.
I don’t doubt that the game was ugly and we made some stupid mistakes and showed lack of effort… it just amazes me how that isn’t reflected on the box score.
Stats that looked a lot worse live
Waiters poor free throw shooting. And missing layups in high pressure situations again.
Rutgers offensive rebounds and 2nd chance points.
Rutgers shooting percentage from 15 ft.
Fab drew no charges.
But all the stats we needed, we got, and we got them at the right time, which is all really exciting. Whether you keep teams close or not, good teams win consistently and that’s what we are doing.
by 5YearPlan on Feb 20, 2012 12:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's what I mean
Box scores can lie. Though this one doesn’t have kind things to say about Dion overall or Scoop “I’ll make them when they matter” at the line.
Ha. It's a good thing Scoops free throws didn't matter.
CJ and Fab on the other hand were inspiring.
by 5YearPlan on Feb 20, 2012 8:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not to mentioning
Rutgers guys who are sitting on the ground outrebounding Fab and KJ.
You know what else was super ugly that you don't see in the stats
Are how many times they stripped the ball when we were going up for layups. Seemed like it just KEPT happening in the second half.
Fab Melo
Two quick observations:
1. He plays too often with his hands down around his waist; He’s a much more effective defender with his hands up. It seemed as though many of RU’s inside buckets were made when he was slow to react, players just shot around him. When he got his hands up, it forced the offensive players into much more difficult shots.
2. He’s not a terrible free throw shooter. He needs to go to the rim more. Even if he gets fouled, he’s got a decent shot at making both. As crazy as it sounds, he needs to be more aggressive – someone really needs to light a fire underneath him. The worst thing that happens is that he’s shooting free throws.
Yesterday I'll give him a break for.
His body may have been in New Jersey, but his heart and mind was….At Carnivale!!
I AM ON FIRE, AND I DANCE!

(sorry, I couldn’t find the exact image to go with that quote, so I grabbed this from the same episode)
Shut up brain or I'll stab you with a Q-tip

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