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This is the sixth installment in a new series about Syracuse's impending move to the ACC. Previous rival profiles: Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami.

Syracuse's well-documented move to the ACC of course comes with a host of new friends to play with. While several are neither "new" nor "friends," still consider these posts your primer on which teams, schools, players and coaches you'll be hating from 2014 (2013?) until the next time college football decides to realign.

In our latest profile, we get to meet a team we've already developed some mild dislike for on the basketball court. You may recall us popping off on them back in December, or maybe their coach speaking ill of one James Boeheim's metropolitan preferences. This week, it's: the NC State Woflpack.

School: North Carolina State University at Raleigh

Nickname:Wolfpack

Location: Raleigh, N.C.

Stadium:Carter-Finley Stadium (capacity: 57,583) | RBC Center/PNC Arena (capacity: 19,722)

Football & Basketball Titles: 2 (both basketball: 1974, 1983)

Notable Football Alums: Philip Rivers, Torry Holt, Mario Williams, Roman Gabriel

Notable Basketball Alums: Spud Webb, Nate McMillan, Vinny Del Negro, David Thompson

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NC State has not won an ACC championship in football since 1979. This is puzzling information for any fan, and it also gets you wondering -- then who the hell won that eight-team league for the entire next decade-plus prior to Florida State's arrival? The answer, as it would end up, mixes the expected (Clemson: six titles in that span) with the surprising (Maryland: three titles) and utterly dumb-founding (Virginia and Duke split the 1989 league title). And so explains NC State football in a nutshell. You always believe them to be a pretty decent program, and most years lately, it's safe to pencil them in for at least a 7-5 record. But when you take a look at the overall numbers, you'll see 26 bowl trips (eight in the past decade), no final poll ranking higher than ninth (1974) and a .505 winning percentage. Oddly enough though, we've lost to them all six times we've ever faced them -- four times in the 70s (dark days for SU football), and twice during the McNabb era.

On the basketball court, the Woflpack have spent much of their existence fighting the perception they're not as good as UNC, and for the past 20 years or so, Duke as well. In this regard, our fan bases can find some common ground. However, it's also likely that chip-on-our-shoulder attitude caused State coach Mark Gottfried's misguided comments on where, when and how Jim Boeheim could pop off about the poor location of the ACC tournament. Obviously, he paid dearly in the form of the most entertaining 23-0 runs many of us have ever seen. Still, we'll give credit where credit is due. NC State does have one more title than we do, in one less trip to the final four. No such excursions since 1983, however. Syracuse leads the all-time series 4-1, including a 2-0 record when playing them in Raleigh.

We respect Jim Valvano, and the 1983 surprise title over Houston's Phi Slama Jama, but we do have about 250 more wins all-time. Even with the one-championship advantage for the 'Pack, there's a debate to be had here, and this matchup should be an intriguing fan-favorite for years to come. On the football end, if our historic success (against teams not named NC State) wasn't enough, we can also remind them that Philip Rivers will never be as good as Eli Manning. Enjoying our future Atlantic Division rivalry yet?

John Cassillo authors Atlantic Coast Convos, which chronicles ACC (Plus Syracuse & Pittsburgh) football. Check out the blog, and follow him on Twitter: @JohnCassillo

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Not to nitpick, but…

Gotta add David Thompson to the notable basketball players. The man was incredible, not to mention Michael Jordan’s idol

"O...M...G. And that's not with a smiley face, that's with a DUNK-NASTY FACE"

by Arinzzzzz on Feb 16, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

Added

Considered putting him in the original, but figured I wouldn’t really be discussing those players anyway.

In all of these posts, the “notable alums” section has become a point of contention for some ridiculous reason. I name 3-5 alums. It’s not a definitive list, just a few notable guys from the team. Well aware addressing it here probably won’t do anything to prevent future complaining.

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by JohnCassillo on Feb 16, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Terry Gannon was a member of that title team too.

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 16, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Also a notable

NC State is considered the birthplace of the “alley-oop” in the 1970s – by David Thomspson and teammates Monte Towe and Tim Stoddard

by Pinker on Feb 16, 2012 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

Mascot Battle

Maybe we should bring back the recently-retired Otto costume when we play. It could be a matchup of the most homeless mascot in the country.

Fly, Eagles, fly...down, down the field!

by E Scott on Feb 16, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

something i found interesting...

…about NC State was the fact they had three recruits playing in the McDonalds All-American game…seemed like alot for them…this may be a program on the rise…

by or44nge on Feb 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

I was playing Counterstrike last night (first person shooter for PC)

and the server owner was talking about how his team (“State” is how he kept referring to them) was on the rise, how they got some good recruits, and how they got a real good new coach. Asked him who his team was and he said NC State.

There seems to be a buzz going on down there.

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86

by StealthTurkey on Feb 16, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

People still play Counterstrike?

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 16, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Source.

They just started beta for the new one, CS: Global Offensive. Add me on Steam if you still play! Hell, I think I even have an account if you need one :D

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86

by StealthTurkey on Feb 16, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh

I actually never played. I’m not a big FPS player, but I’m familiar enough to know that its widely considered the best multiplayer FPS ever. I just know it’s been around foreever. I figured somethign would have surpassed it by now.

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I still remember Torry Holt torching us back in the late 90's

Caused me to beat the floor repeatedly with a bat every time he caught a ball.

by ScottInDC on Feb 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

People talk about losing rivalries

With the ACC move, but Syracuse already has makings of one with NC State, going back at least to the Julius Hodge recruiting battle. I’m too lazy to look it up, but once Syracuse moves too teh ACC, are the Wolfpack in their group that plays home-home every year? If not, they damn well should be.

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 16, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Google says:

http://www.theacc.com/genrel/020312aaa.html

According to this, the only guaranteed home-and-home every year is BC for us. Everyone else, we play four times in a three year span. So year 1 is home-and-home, then year 2 is away, then year 3 is home; rinse, repeat.

… that is, if I’m understanding it all correctly.

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by JohnCassillo on Feb 16, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Good looks

I understand the feeling that BC is a natural ACC rival for Syracuse. Honestly, though, I have no feelings one way or another about the Eagles. NC State, on the other hand, between the Julius Hodge thing and the “popping off” comments,has the beginnings of the sort of bad blood that makes rivalries. I mean, SU-G’Town is built largely on Big John Thompson’s “closing” Manley Field house. Perhaps Jim B’s “popping off” could serve as a similar catalyst.

Eff’ Wake Forest. Make SU and NC State basketball partners.

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Feb 16, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

As cool as NC State would be — I’d rather just keep Pitt. They have “some” history with Maryland, but it’s being pushed for geography. Let Maryland and BC develop a better rivalry than they already have, and let us and Pitt continue what’s become a pretty heated battle on the court. No point in assuming bball rivalries=football rivalries, and vice versa.

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by JohnCassillo on Feb 16, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

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About their football stadium reeking of urine?

by jeff b on Feb 16, 2012 2:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Never been

But that’s been par for the course in nearly every outdoor stadium I’ve ever been to that wasn’t built in the last decade. One glaring exception: Stanford Stadium. Am I just going to the wrong parks? haha

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by JohnCassillo on Feb 16, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

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