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In Defense of the Gray Jerseys

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When Twitter went all, well, a-twitter about the fact that Nike was slapping Syracuse with gray jerseys, I'll admit...I was just as annoyed as everyone else in the Orange Empire. We've grown accustomed to Nike fitting us with all of their new digs every few years, and while many yearn for us to go back to popular jerseys from years past (1996, 2003...), that's just not going to happen.

When the images broke yesterday, I fully expected to absolutely hate them. I'm usually sort of lukewarm on ridiculous Nike designs, I find them quite hit or miss (with Oregon football, on a weekly basis). As I scrolled through the pictures, I tried my hardest to subscribe to the Twitterati hivemind hatred of them...

I couldn't do it.

I think the jerseys are pretty damn slick.

I'm not going to say they're perfect or that they should take the place of our current threads for the rest of the season, and there are definitely a few things about them that bother me. Obviously, they are gray. Really gray. Not 'platinum', platinum is a buzzword. These things are gray. Georgetown also wears gray. That really sucks. The numbers are also gray, and I can already anticipate the headache from trying to read them when we wear them against USF. I don't know why they couldn't have made the numbers and names orange, but whatever. Also, I've seen pictures where apparently the names are below the numbers on the backs of these jerseys. I've hated that on literally every type of jersey I've ever seen it implemented, and that's no different with these.

However, I believe the pros far outweigh the cons:

Our selection as one of the schools that Nike has chosen is frankly an honor. Love them or hate them, Nike is by far the most powerful sportswear company in the world, and the benefits, monetary and otherwise, of being one of their poster-children are innumerable. I've already referenced Oregon football. Go take a look at Oregon football history before Phil Knight made the program his guinea pig. It isn't all that impressive. Now they can get in the door with almost any recruit in the country because of the crazy facilities that Knight has bestowed upon them, and because high school kids love stuff like these. They might not be the most attractive or classy uniforms, but they're sure as hell unique. They stand out.

These jerseys put us in an elite group. Look at the programs chosen, all national champions and definitely in the top tier or two of the college basketball world. There's no harm in reminding everyone about 2003.

These jerseys also do a lot for the national brand that Dr. Gross is trying to build with Syracuse athletics. Sean has already written a lot about the de-bluing, and whether or not people like it, it is certainly understandable. As the "Orange", moves are being made to have that color stand out and pop as much as possible. If you can take one thing away from these jerseys, it is that the orange certainly pops. There are also block 'S' logos all over the place. I'm honestly surprised that Gross didn't push the designers to fit a "New York's College Team" somewhere on there.

The jerseys themselves are actually pretty cool looking in their own right. Once you get past the gray, which is admittedly tough, I really like a lot of things about them. Not everyone loves the "'Cuse", but I think it's cool. To people outside of CNY, our school is "The 'Cuse", much like Villanova is "'Nova" and Rutgers is "irrelevant". If these jerseys were printed in orange and white, I think people would love them. I honestly hope that is in the works.

Also, those sneakers...#want.

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Anything that defines SU as elite (let alone hyper super triple platinum elite) is a good thing. Everyone take a deep breath, let the team wear them once, and hope the uniforms plant that Orange seed in the minds of future recruits.

Go, fight, and win.

by Alex O on Jan 26, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

This does not make us "Special"

We’ve been a Nike Elite school for years, When they first introduced the system of Dress, Syracuse was one of 4 schools that were chosen to unveil them. Also when we unveiled the current Jerseys It was during the Big East Tournament 2 years ago when Wes and Andy were Seniors. So if anything our “Eliteness” to Nike has been watered down because now there’s more teams unveiling the new look, not just a small few. And also theses new “Hyper Elite” uniforms are pretty much the exact same thing as the Nike Jerseys now but with 5% less material. With that said 18 teams have already worn Gray this year on the current Nike Hyper (regular) Jerseys. So we are actually part of 27 teams who look like Nike drones out there.

I like the new design, but I don’t agree with lumping us into a group of 20+ teams that get the “privilege” to wear Gray. Nike choose 20+ teams they knew they could milk the most money out of with alternate jerseys, they then choose a subset of 9 teams to promote in a big one day marketing push. If they had just used our regular colors they could have accomplished the same thing except we would’ve kept our tradition AND we would have stood out from the other 20+ teams who got gray.

Sorry but we’ve been getting the Nike “Elite” treatment for 10 years now we should not be buying into their marketing that this is some new level we’ve ascended to

by Brando415 on Jan 26, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Also when we unveiled the current Jerseys It was during the Big East Tournament 2 years ago when Wes and Andy were Seniors.

I think the unveil you’re thinking of was just a shoe. New ’Melos to be exact. Have the unis changed at all since they were unveiled in 2007? Serious question.

by Anon5QADEtU4 on Jan 26, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

We got brand new unis (the current ones) in the middle of the 2009-2010 season. Broke them out for the UConn game at the Dome.

by Dan Lyons on Jan 26, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Also when we unveiled the current Jerseys It was during the Big East Tournament 2 years ago when Wes and Andy were Seniors

We unveiled those jerseys during our home game against UConn in mid February of that year. Also, Wes was never technically a senior when he was here.

by cuse2012 on Jan 26, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

irrelevant Scarlet Knights.

hehehe

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86
I guess I made a twitter, follow @StealthTurkey

by StealthTurkey on Jan 26, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

I don't get too worked up about uniforms

But I will withhold judgment on these until seeing them in action.

by Mike I. on Jan 26, 2012 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

Some photos I saw made the Orange look neon-y. Others looked like a normal orange. So I’m not sure if it was just the crazy lighting in that place yesterday.

It always looks different on TV and in person. We’ll see.

Ultimately though, not gonna get worked up over uniforms we wear for one day (for now).

http://cusepulp.blogspot.com/

by Lots of Pulp on Jan 26, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem with the design.

In fact I think the design works better than the current unis. The current uniforms (home) don’t have enough Orange in them. I’ve always hated that the side paneling on the shorts doesn’t extend up to the jerseys. Makes it look like we’re just wearing some Fruit of the Looms out there.

The problem is the color. And, to me, it has nothing to do with “they are Georgetown colors”. It just doesn’t work. I understand the idea behind it and all that. It’s why we’ve had duct tape numbers for the past few years. Because we’re an elite team. It’s like the recent trend of World Series winners having their unis trimmed in gold on opening day. That’s cool to me. Can you imagine the Cardinals getting their rings this Spring wearing all gold unis? It would be ridiculous. I think this is just overkill.

The main thing killing the design is that it is ALL gray. If the numbers and ‘Cuse were white I might be a little more forgiving. I just don’t get the gray on gray.

BUT…

…thankfully it’s just one game. I wouldn’t be opposed to having this design in white/blue and/or Orange. I’d rather not go with ’Cuse on the front, though.

And, yes, the sneakers are freaking sweet.

Go Orange!

by MBorkowski on Jan 26, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I like the design

I think most people are OK with the design too, its just that Nike never would have anticipated even associating us with the color gray (platinum is to gray what comforter is to blanket, just a gussied up term for the same crap) would cause such a backlash.

Im glad they only get worn once. what I HAVENT heard yet, and what I WANT to hear – “oh next year you get them in school colors, and not this horrible color some idiot in our marketing department came up with”!

by Pinker on Jan 26, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

AND...

…if the “orange” color were to be our true orange tone, whether that be Pantone 1664 or 1665 (if that is still our Pantone match colors), i think it would be alot better. but to saddle us with a new color, and to call it “electric” or “neon” whatever NIKE is trying to sell, well i think that is a big mistake. Syracuse’s brand is related to a color, more so than many other schools…to change that color is a big disappointment to me.

by or44nge on Jan 26, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, it kinda looks pastel-y.

Check out those socks especially. Groce.

by Anon5QADEtU4 on Jan 26, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Grey on grey is dumb.

Why even put names and numbers on the jerseys? Nobody’s gonna be able to read that s*** from more than 5 feet away. It’s even worse than trying to read this prior ridiculousness from distance…

by Anon5QADEtU4 on Jan 26, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Up until yesterday...

… that was my least favorite uniform. Looks like a church league said, “Hey, let’s make our uniforms look like Syracuse’s.”

Go Orange!

by MBorkowski on Jan 26, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Also...

… why does the material look like it came from some cheap, Wal-Mart polyester track suit?

Some of those pics made it look thinner and crappier than one of those paper hospital gowns. Is that just the payoff of being “green” and recycling old material? You’re left with a substandard product as a result?

by Anon5QADEtU4 on Jan 26, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

Good piece

I really like them, and it seems the players do too – that’s what matters most.

by blacklips on Jan 26, 2012 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Agree

I like them as well. I would like to buy the shorts and i think “platinum” is a good color for shorts. The white shorts get dirty quick, and what can you wear with orange shorts. I have orange shorts and i never wear them because it basically only goes with a white shirt, which i dont wear because they are all pit-stained.

Regarding the grey number on a grey jersey. I see this as a problem for our old timer referees. Jim Burr isnt going to be able to read the numbers. Maybe then he will quit!

by TheCuseIsLoose on Jan 26, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

folks, I'm sorry, but b.s. - this is GEORGETOWN'S COLOR

Look, I get it, it’s about the money and I’d be naive to think otherwise. Nike will get their revenue, and so will we to an extent. But I hate seeing us in this color so, so very much. You all should too… our colors are a part of our tradition, and it’s just as important as to what we are (orange) as it is what we are not (grey).

by The Invisible Swordsman on Jan 26, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

I hate these jerseys

But the color of the grey/platinum/silver/uranium/whatever isn’t close to being the same as Georgetown’s.

by cuse2012 on Jan 26, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The Orange pops on the grey

Looks much better than the Whites. And because of the Orange it looks nothing like GTown. It is silly to even bring it up. If anyone should be pissed it should be UConn. Now those look like GTown.

by KingOttoIII on Jan 26, 2012 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

the CBS guy nailed it

the whole gray thing feels very 5 years ago. there’s a retro rebirth in mlb right now that i hope carries through to all sports.

by Rich Pageant on Jan 26, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously.

People have been slowly eating this “grey” thing up since the Tampa Bay Bucs went with those pewter helmets/pants and won a SB.

by Anon5QADEtU4 on Jan 26, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at the uniforms Brando posted

Now look back at your argument. Yeah, falls flat doesn’t it.

We can have “special” uniforms without giving up SU’s colors or tradition.

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Jan 26, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

The platinum is the special uniform. They weren’t going to make them for everyone else, and make us new orange ones.

Don’t get me wrong. If I had it my way, we’d wear orange home, away, alternate jerseys, and anyone who entered the dome in another color would get flogged. However, we had no way around getting gray jerseys without losing the benefits of being one of Nike’s poster schools, so with that in mind, they could have been much worse.

by Dan Lyons on Jan 26, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

However, we had no way around getting gray jerseys without losing the benefits of being one of Nike’s poster schools, so with that in mind, they could have been much worse.

Completely agreed, but just they could of been worse doesn’t mean they look good or make the team look like an SU team. Change the lettering, the style, get more modern, cool. The colors however are awful because they are NOT SU’s colors. There is no defending them.

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Jan 27, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Now everyone can wear gray in the dome

instead of their all blue sweatshirts…

http://www.syracuserugby.com/

by 'CuseRugby on Jan 26, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

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