Starting Five v. Second Five - 1/2 Update

by Mike I. on Jan 2, 2012 4:41 PM EST

Starting Five: 48.2% FG / 70.7% FT / 37.58% 3FG / 53.8% EFG

Second Five: 52.59% FG / 67.8% FT / 35.24% 3FG / 57.38% EFG

Starting Five (per 200 minutes) : 13.91 OR / 21.01 DR / 34.92 Reb / 16.63 Assists / 13.25 TO / 9.62 Stl / 9.35 Blocks

Second Five (per 200 minutes): 11.71 OR / 22.26 DR / 32.97 Reb / 16.65 Assists / 8.54 TO / 12.64 Stl / 8.3 Blocks

I have to say, it looks like the second team is stretching their lead a little bit. The differences are starting to solidify. The high turnovers for the starters plays right in to the second team's advantage with steals. Fab's improvement is starting to reveal itself statistically in the rebounding and block categories.

Scariest thing I've learned doing this: Kris Joseph and Brandon Triche rank #1 and #3 in FGA. They rank #9 and #8 respectively in EFG%.

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It's close to a toss up.

Less to’s and more steals with second 5 That’s dion

by RockLloyd on Jan 2, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions

And CJ

Other than those two, the other 3 aren’t contributing more than the starters.

Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10

by PoetryInMoten on Jan 3, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions

Southerland

Southerland’s per 40 contributions are still very high. He’s actually the difference maker. He is in the top five in just about every statistical category per 40 minutes played.

by Mike I. on Jan 3, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions

True

I was just pointing out that he’s probably not much better than Joseph. Joseph also has the stigma of being our best player, whether that’s true or not, so defenses key more on shutting him down than someone like Southerland.

Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10

by PoetryInMoten on Jan 3, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions

In terms of Per 40 in this exercise

He absolutely is. And I want to be clear, if I’m choosing teams, Joseph is the guy I’m choosing over Southie.

But here’s the breakdown (percentages followed by per 40s)

Kris Joseph –
42.59 FG% – 81.36 FT% – 39.34 3FG% – 50 EFG% – 19.4pts – 7.21 reb – 2.31 assists – 1.48 TO – 1.85 stl – .83 blocks

James Southerland –
55.81 FG% – 63.16% FT% – 42.22 3FG% – 66.86 EFG% – 20.73pts – 8.00 reb – 1.63 assists – .82 TO – 2.94 stl – 2.29 blocks

James is usually doing this against easier competition (having not played much against Va tech, Stanford, Florida), but I can’t think of an easy way to fix that. One area where Kris kills James is, of course, Free Throw Rate. It’s just not Southerland’s game.

by Mike I. on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions