Otto's Army Wants YOU...To Vote Them Best Student Section In The Nation
We can talk about football games some other time but when it comes to basketball, the Carrier Dome is one of the most inhospitable college stadiums in the nation. Yes, Pat Forde, I swear it is.
And a big part of that is Otto's Army, which has grown from the ashes of student sections past to become a dominant force in the Student Cheering Arts.
We all think they're the best student section in the country but now it's time to put our money where our orange is. Otto’s Army student section has been nominated for the Naismith Student Section of the Year, which honors exactly what you think it honors.
By visiting www.facebook.com/ILoveCollegeHoops, Syracuse fans can vote for the Orange as SU looks to defeat more than 80 schools that submitted a nomination. The Naismith Student Section of the Year Award, which is presented through a partnership of The Collegiate Licensing Company (CLC), a division of IMG College, and the Atlanta Tipoff Club, administrators of the Naismith Awards, is dedicated to celebrating fans that love college hoops and provide support to their college basketball team with devotion and passion.
Just like student-athletes, the student section will do all the hard work while the university gets the spoils. The winning student section will receive bragging rights while the winning school will receive $5,000 for its athletic association.
FYI, in case you needed extra incentive to vote, Georgetown, Villanova, Pitt, Providence, Boston College, Louisville and Rutgers are all up for the award as well.
Not on my watch, people. Not on my God damn watch.
UConn and Notre Dame are not amongst the award nominees. Draw your conclusions at will.
The Naismith Student Section of the Year Award will be determined through two voting rounds combined with scores from the way-too-fancily-named "Naismith Awards Board of Selectors," who review criteria such as the student section’s name and attendance, as well as photos, video, and a writing submission.
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I'm honestly not trying to troll
but I don’t think we have the best students in the nation. (Won’t stop me from voting for us though.) Otto’s Army is doing a fantastic job rallying the troops, and there are definitely loud, proud, and devoted student fans. The turnout for the Pitt game was fantastic.
I know it’s an uphill climb but the next step is getting everyone in the student section to be as good as the one who get there early and make it to the temporary seating. EVERYONE has to stand the entire game, scream their ass off when we’re on defense, sing (or at least clap along to) the fight song, do the moves for Gimme Some Lovin / Can’t Turn You Loose / The Horse / whatever, do the cheers the band/cheerleaders are trying to start, loudly do the “you you you” thing on fouls, etc.
I realize any student reading this is already doing these things and I apologize for preaching to the choir. Otto’s Army, keep up the good work, it will pay off, more people will buy in. We’re not a great student section yet but we can get there.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
This
Was late getting back to campus from home, and got stuck in the upper deck for the second time ever in my 4 years here. It’s such a miserable experience. Way too many people just sitting, texting, having no idea wtf is going on. There was a mass exodus with like 1:20 left and the lead single digits in a Big East game, and it was happening down below too.
We have some great fans in the student section, but we have a large amount that, when compared to other schools, just suck. It’s one reason I’ve loved being at the BET over the last 3 years- it’s only those of us who fall into that former category.
So serious

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Just sayin'
bro.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
student section...
the dome is loud because of the real fans…the locals. Su’s student section is pretty suspect.
I am personally going to start the petition to stop shaking keys on third downs in The Dome.
I like how
the locals claim it’s the locals that make it loud and the students claim it’s the students that make it loud. It’s actually both.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Jan 18, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
As a local I've always found this argument funny
It is 100% both.
Student, local, Mookie, doesn’t matter, just make a TON of damn noise.
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by theNYsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
In his mind
it’s all Mookie
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So I am assuming you’ve never been in the student section and tried to start a cheer with the rest of the dome.
The local fans are great. But everyone can tell the difference between a game with students and a game without. It’s foolish to pretend otherwise.
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
But...
A game with just students there(no locals) would sound the same as a game without the students, the reason it gets as loud as does is because both are rocking the place together. Yin and Yang.
A Georgetown degree is life's technical foul. - H/T HoyaSuxa
Jim Boeheim is Mick Jagger of college basketball. He gets cooler as he gets older. - Jay Wright
by theNYsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re arguing that a game without the students would sound the same as a game without the locals, that’s still 4,000 sounding the same as 21,000.
I appreciate our local fans. My father is one of them as is my grandfather. But when I sit in the student section for games, we cheer most of the time. And those of us in front try pretty hard to make it constantly. When I was at the Seton Hall game (without the students), I heard one attempt to start a “Let’s Go Orange” after the game was underway. And it kinda failed.
Saying that the dome is loud because of the locals and the student section does nothing is absurd considering that, when it’s just the locals, the dome doesn’t seem to really cheer. I never claimed it wasn’t both groups working together. But I think the poster who I was responding to is drastically off base and in opposition to all actual evidence.
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
+1
I’ve never heard a student yell at another student “down in front”….Although I’ve been told by many locals to sit down so they can see…..The students are always standing, screaming….The locals, for the most part, sit on their hands and yell at others for blocking their view….
Case closed….and we didn’t even need Gloria Alred to settle that one for us…..
Those locals suck
A Georgetown degree is life's technical foul. - H/T HoyaSuxa
Jim Boeheim is Mick Jagger of college basketball. He gets cooler as he gets older. - Jay Wright
by theNYsportsguy on Jan 19, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
In the Seton Hall "Let's Go Orange" chants defense
It was against Seton Hall…
I get your point, I just like mine better because I’m a hard headed local that loses his voice after every game thinking I make as much of a impact as the students. haha
A Georgetown degree is life's technical foul. - H/T HoyaSuxa
Jim Boeheim is Mick Jagger of college basketball. He gets cooler as he gets older. - Jay Wright
by theNYsportsguy on Jan 19, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
actually...
i was a student. and the student section is full of girls that are just trying to get on t.v. or who think going to the games is what makes them popular. and no…. im not a guy that had trouble getting women haha. the fact is that the locals are there…even when its the NIT, and the dome is still rocking. Just like the football games. The student section has their moments sure, but they are not die-hards like the locals.
I am personally going to start the petition to stop shaking keys on third downs in The Dome.
You clearly hung out with the wrong students.
You think the students aren’t die hards? My friends and I slept outside in Syracuse winters. For days at a time. We studied for exams sitting out there. We worked our butts off trying to make Otto’s Army relevant. We talked the student section up to anyone who would listen. We traveled to the Big East Tournament on our spring breaks instead of to anywhere warm. We went to Buffalo without anyone with a car and took a cab all over the place, again on spring break, because no one we were with had a car. We went to every Lacrosse game while we were there, we went to women’s lacrosse, men’s soccer, field hockey, volleyball, women’s basketball. We planned bus trips to Pittsburgh to watch the football team get crushed, and for basketball away games, and Lacrosse away games. We planned our class schedules to make sure we didn’t have classes during week night games. We coordinated the list of students, fought with people who didn’t like the rules, got three hours of sleep before the Villanova game and then stood for every minute between when we were woken up at 7am and when the game ended at 11. And, for me personally, this was only a week after a friend of mine died. We turned out for the NIT even though we were convinced that we were going to make the tournament. We sat in the lounge of our dorm room watching that same team lose to Clemson in a game they should have won.
Now that we’ve graduated we take time off of work or grad school to come back and watch the team, even the football team. We drive several hours round trip to see them. We buy lacrosse tickets a year in advance and figure that we will find a way to get there no matter what else we might be doing. We pay for OAA and look around for pirated streams and follow on twitter and text each other updates so we can follow the team even from far away. We stay home from parties and skip meetings and stop working on homework just to watch our team on a crappy computer feed. And it isn’t because this team is number 1. It’s because we sat through every game when this team was making the NIT and cheered hard anyway. The fact that they are number 1 is the bonus.
And I’m not talking about two of my closets friends. I’m talking about most of us (and no, not everyone I’m talking about is on TNIAAM either). You want to say the students and alums aren’t die hard? Let’s see how many of the locals would be at the game if they had to sleep outside in 15 degree weather for their seat. Again. I respect the locals. I fully believe that the crowd is amazing because of both of the locals and the students. Your dismissal of the student section only tells me that you didn’t know the best parts of our student section.
And as far as girls who “just want to get on TV”. I guess you apparently missed the fact that there are plenty of male fans who jump into any shot ESPN does. I can’t think of a single female fan I ever met who was there for any other reason than to watch basketball. And the fact that you bothered to add in that you “don’t have trouble getting women” doesn’t exactly recommend you.
Sorry for the essay, but you’re totally off base. I don’t know what student section you were a part of, but it doesn’t resemble the one I know.
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
by Orange22 on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Those were the good old days...
The girls that JCuse mentioned are in every student section. Ever watch an SEC game and see the gaggle of sorority sisters who pay more attention to the cameras than the game? Because I have.
In my 4 years at SU, I sat in the front row of that student section for nearly every single football and basketball game. I went to at least one game for almost every single non-revenue sport. I can tell you firsthand that building a student section for a University that has a terrible football team and an NIT-bound basketball team (when I first got to SU and Otto’s Army’s big growth began) is exponentially more difficult than most can imagine.
Will I tell you that every single fan in Otto’s Army for every single game is as passionate as me, or Orange22, or the countless other diehards? That’d be a ridiculous claim to make. But trust me when I say that Otto’s Army is a HUGE part of why The Loud House….well, is The Loud House. The locals are great, but when Rutgers or Seton Hall or Cincy or USF comes in to The Dome in February in the middle of a blizzard, the students pick up the slack for those who can’t or won’t make it out. The students, who make up a proportionally small amount of the crowd, are the difference between a big crowd and a roaring, vibrating, can’t-hear-yourself-think, shake-the-seismographs-at-Heroy type crowd.
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Objective analysis
Syracuse: Pretty damn good, but would look much better and be much more effective with the seats near the court. I know, I know, it’s as pointless complaining about that as the BCS system.
Georgetown: Aww, gotta admire the pluck of the student section when they are the consistently the only people in the building that both 1) care about the game and 2) are rooting for Georgetown. They put in a decent effort, but any fan-based award going to Gtown is a joke.
Lville/Rutgers: Solid, not at all the best in the nation
Nova/PC: meh
BC: No idea what they are like (ok my analysis is getting lazy)
Pitt: As much as it hurts to say, they probably are the winner among BE schools. It just looks and sounds like pure chaos when opposing teams take the ball down the court in early/close games. But again, it has everything to do with seating.
BC Students Suck
They don’t even go to the games
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by Lots of Pulp on Jan 18, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
They need a team worth going to see
by JB44ever on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Went to a SU - BC game in Boston once
They’re a fine fanbase but nothing special.
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It's Boston.
There’s nothing special there.
A Georgetown degree is life's technical foul. - H/T HoyaSuxa
Jim Boeheim is Mick Jagger of college basketball. He gets cooler as he gets older. - Jay Wright
by theNYsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'll vote for them but.....
Ill give them my vote but I agree they can be suspect at times. Its getting better and they do show up in force for big games but I don’t think they are the best in the Big East. I would have to go with Pittsburgh with Rutgers a close second followed by the Cuse.
UConn's students are not bad either
I don’t know if they’re louder or more passionate than us but they’re definitely better coordinated.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Jan 18, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Point taken
It doesn’t have to be creative to sound impressive, though.
At Michigan Stadium, the band plays the “Let’s Go Blue” (or, “Go SU” here) cheer and 110,000 clap along and say “Let’s Go Blue!” It’s not an option, it’s not something only the people in the first few rows do. Everyone just does it. It’s not a particular novel or groundbreaking cheer.
Honestly, I’d prefer the students and (especially) the band to do a few things REALLY well than a bunch of different things half-assedly.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
yea but it only takes one witty come back to shut them up
I was at a loss to UConn at uconn. The SU section was right next to the uconn student section. They were all chanting “fuck you. fuck you” and doing collective middle finger arm waves. A fat SU fan did the pulled up his shirt and did the truffle shuffle in response. The UConn fans were collective in their blank looks. Its a school for beta males. They have lots of followers but no leaders.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
I wonder if we have the most students in our section compared to others?
Theres no limit, all students get in, and looking at it we have a massive number of students there. i think the size of the area we cover makes it much harder for us to be coordinated.
Syracuse '13
All "who has the best student section" arguments should end here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7_e1xa6PXY
A Georgetown degree is life's technical foul. - H/T HoyaSuxa
Jim Boeheim is Mick Jagger of college basketball. He gets cooler as he gets older. - Jay Wright
Still waiting the SSS to go back to this
Still no change from playing Kesha or Lady Gaga every other song :/
I agree.
they did it for football,, but it would be so much rowdier for basketball
Syracuse '13
by OrangeCrush13 on Jan 18, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
They left out the drunlime aka the best part
for football. So it kinda sucked.
We play too many games on national TV from the university to let them play that knowing what will happen. We can all hope tho.
A Georgetown degree is life's technical foul. - H/T HoyaSuxa
Jim Boeheim is Mick Jagger of college basketball. He gets cooler as he gets older. - Jay Wright
by theNYsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Different bands for football and bball
They both are guilty of it though
Rushed the court for beating #10 ranked team?
Bet that won’t happen this year!
If it was easy, I'd be doing it...
Otto's Army is inadequate, and has got to go
Thank you, Sean for pointing out the identity crisis we have under Otto Army’s, which shows SU’s need to find a better student section. Otto’s Army started as an unofficial student section just like all of the others. The committee of 10-15 years ago completely flunked their assignment.
SU needs to ditch Otto’s Army and get a real mascot. I think Robin’s Army would be great.

Shut up brain or I'll stab you with a Q-tip
by MrPlow99 on Jan 18, 2012 6:39 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
SOPA? Is that you?
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"Naismith Awards Board of Selectors,"
Sounds too Hunger Gamesy
Here's the other recent OA promo video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2WTvr3_Ko
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012

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