Bernie Fine Accusations: Fourth Accuser Made It All Up
I know I sound like a broken record every time I say this but I swear to God it bears repeating every time something like this happens.
The more we learn about the Bernie Fine accusations, the less we actually understand the murkier it gets.
As more than one person intimated to me when the news broke, Bernie Fine's fourth accuser, Floyd VanHooser, lied about everything.
State prison inmate Floyd "David" VanHooser said he lied to police and news reporters to get back at the coach who helped raise him because Fine did not hire a lawyer for him to fight his most recent criminal conviction.
"In a statement I gave I told a lot of lies about Bernie Fine. None of what I said was true," VanHooser wrote. "Bernie has been nothing but good to me over the years. He was the only thing I had close to a father. He never did any thing wrong he is a good man."
“They suggested things and I went along with it,” VanHooser said.
For those scoring at home, we now have one accuser proven to be a liar, one accuser in jail and whose story doesn't hold water and two accusers suing someone other than Bernie Fine.
In his original story, VanHooser told authorities about three specific incidents in 1998, 2001 and this past summer when he allegedly performed a sex act on Fine in his office in exchange for money.
VanHooser's accusations may have been part of the basis for one of the search warrants issued, specifically the one to search Fine's office.
VanHooser is currently serving 16 years in state prison as a "persistent violent felony offender" for a burglary spree earlier this year. He has 12 felony convictions, seven of which are considered violent felony convictions, on his record.
Fine, who has quite literally disappeared off the face of the Earth, has denied all wrongdoing through his lawyer.
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Why is this even still news?
I thought we were past this? Kudos to the players for not getting caught up in all lthis.
Will it be news if
this leads to the entire case against Fine crumbling? I’d say that’s news.
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by Sean Keeley on Jan 15, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd say it is news
While nobody is too sure what happened with the other three accusers… nobody should be punished for false accusations.
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Oh really?
So people should be encouraged to ruin other people’s lives by making stuff up? OK, it’’s not as bad as molesting someone, but no way should there be a free pass. Now if the allegations can’t be proven true or false (e.g. Davis as far as we know), that’s a different story.
Maybe read ez's post again?
I think he means no one should be punished “due to” false accusations. Not that people making false accusations should not be punished.
I meant "because of."
Is there a cure for hyper-sensitivity?
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So, I wonder if Bernie can sue SU for wrongly firing him...
if all the accusers eventually become discredited, wouldn’t he have grounds, considering they reacted on unfounded accusations?? hhhhhmmmmmmm…..
I doubt SU firing fine came down to these circumstances
I am sure they had other reasons to fall back on and I am certain Fine won’t have the balls to bring a suit against the University. While we’re at it, only one person has recanted so it’s not like all of the accusers are bogus.
Ooo yea that's hot.
I beg to differ. Considering that this case will soon be closed since even the Feds didn't find anything.....
…I look for Fine somewhere down the road to Sue the fuk out of SU for WRONGFUL TERMINATION.
They fired him because of pressure from the accusations. What they SHOULD’VE done was suspend him indefinitely until the situation is either resolved or finally terminate him if he got tried and prosecuted(which neither happened or will happen).
You think Fine will sit quiet about this? He’s just biding his time once all the hoopla dies down(which, for the most part, it has)..
one recanted, one is completely full of shit, one is Davis and one is Davis' cousin, who denied the allegations in 2002.
If you doubt Tomaselli is full of shit, scroll down and read my recap on him and then we can talk.
F#&% the Big East
Also
It is the lead news story on the sidebar at ESPN.com. For those who believe in a media conspiracy, etc. Kudos to Axe for finally taking on folks on this issue too.
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Well
I wouldn’t expect ESPN to deny the existence of this. I’d expect them to talk it up.
They “own” this story so any developments is good for them. Means people will go back and read the original stories on ESPN.com.
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by Sean Keeley on Jan 15, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say just the opposite
Instead of having something on cuse tying the best start to a season, they have this crap to remind everyone that it’s still going on. Thanks, espn!
by pegs on Jan 15, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you serious?
Tell me you are being sarcastic. Why would someone in Texas or California give a shit about us tyinga record?
I used to like coming here for the positivity in the face of a world of negativity. Now we seem to be finding negativity in every positive. That’s just life, folks. Nothing is perfect. Few teams are unanimous #1’s in life. Few teams are only going to get praised. When you get paid to share opinions, part of that is trying to figure out the chinks in the armor of the team that is #1—certainly when it is a large market pro team like the Lakers, Yankees, and Cowboys—but also when it is the Saints, Packers, or even Syracuse.
It’s not something to be negative about, it’s something to be glad about. Most years are flaws are obvious. This year, people need to think about it AND it is newsworthy if someone comes up with an idea.
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by ezcuse on Jan 15, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Isn't it just so odd that whenever Cuse reaches a milestone, another Fine story comes out?
First 19-0 start in 11 years…BOOM
- in the country….BAM
First TRUE road game…..ZAP
You keep chanting one more year, I thought college was four years
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Jan 15, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions
You forgot BIFF! POW! and KAPOW!
And any other funny Batman Fight Scene words.
Go Cuse!
by nymetsfan1226 on Jan 15, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
the guy says yhe was basically coerced
If he got the warrants for police, wouldn’t any evidence be in admissible.
That goes into the area of inevitable discovery.
The police, etc would have to prove that they would have gotten enough to get the warrant anyway with what came out in the days after the warrant was issued.
Go Cuse!
by nymetsfan1226 on Jan 15, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
It's a moot point either way since they didn't find JACK when they searched his home and hard drives....
Proof of that is the ridiculous hotline they’ve set up for anyone else to come forward….
They have got NOTHING on Fine. NOTHING.
They’re desperate now to salvage something….ANYTHING…that would prevent the DEA from ending up with Egg on their faces. although I think it’s a bit too late now…
Another question(s)
This letter was dated late Nov, not long after the police interviewed him. When were the warrants issued for Manley/Carmelo K Center? I remember the Florida game was early Dec and the search happened that week. I remember ESPN interviewing Melo during that game. So, when did anyone know about these letters because if the warrant was based on this guy, it seems he recanted before they executed it. I’d say the warrants are questionable, though I highly doubt they found anything if he made everything up.
Also, when did the P-S run their story? That was well after this guy wrote these 2 letters. Were these things lost in the mail? I know it may take a while to get them out of prison (actually I’m guessing, I’ve never been to prison), but how long? He seems to know details just weeks after the story broke, so he is not completely cutoff from the media.
This really does nothing to the Bobby Davis battle, but it is a significant blow in public opinion. Most people (including me) thought this guy was genuine; why would he make all this up? So, now that is 1 domino down, another in prison and 2 guys with a lot of versions of the original story. Plus, his letter shows a man PO’d when Bernie cut him off from money. Does that sound familiar? Bobby Davis started pushing his story right after the $5K incident.
don't forget that the other guy in prison (Tomaselli)
has school records showing he was in attendance on the day he claims to have missed because of the Pittsburgh trip and that there was no bus from Syracuse to Pittsburgh as he claimed. So he’s full of shit too.
F#&% the Big East
I'm starting to think(along with many people out there who refuse to say it out loud) that :
The only thing he may be guilty of is being Gay(or at least Bi) and last time I checked, that wasn’t illegal.
An innocent old coot is being dragged through the mud here….
Another Question
I know some readers on here are lawyers, or legal smart. The Tomaselli case was unique in that it fell in a 10 year federal SOL, correct? Well, we are coming up on the 10 year mark since the alleged Pittsburgh trip. If the feds do not charge Bernie soon, wouldn’t that case also become an SOL problem, or is there something they can do to extend that?
They would have to formally file a criminal complaint in a court before the SOL runs out.
Lacks knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief
by Rocket Ship Science on Jan 15, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Who really cares, orangetundera?
I dare for prosecutors to go ahead with the case involving Tomaselli. It will be a losing battle FROM THE MOMENT that REAL Molestor(Tomaselli) steps into that courtroom and the Jurors see him.
I mean considering all that’s occurred from the guy who lied and admitted it, to the questionable so-called “credible” victims(yeah right) of Davis and Lang, I find it highly unlikely that the Jury would be sympathetic toward the real monster pointing fingers at an INNOCENT MAN.
Lets recap Tomaselli briefly
He sends the Colin Cowherd show an email or text message saying he too was molested by Fine. Cowherd’s producer gives Tomaselli’s info to Mark Schwarz. Schwarz talks to Tomaselli and then puts Tomaselli in touch with Davis. The 2 “victims”, who have never met, have a phone conversation. AFTER this conversation, Tomaselli tells police and investigators his tale, replete with detailed descriptions of the inside of Fine’s residence (which Davis has spent a lot of time at), where he claims he spent the night once. His story includes details that were easily fact-checked (says his father let him miss school (his self-proclaimed very strict, very religious father) to travel alone to Pittsburgh to attend the game. School records from Tomaselli’s school show him in attendance on the day in question. Tomaselli laughs that off, claiming that since his father bullied his way onto the school board he (Tomaselli) is not surprised that the records show that, claiming that his father somehow manipulated the attendance records. This is the father who adamantly denies that any of this ever took place by the way. So to believe Tomaselli, you have to accept that Tomaselli’s father was not only negligent in allowing a young boy to make an interstate road trip with a bunch of folks he’d met once after a brief handshake, but that the father was actually complicit in covering up the molestation by altering school attendance records. If you accept that, you then move on to discover that the bus Tomaselli claims to ridden to Pittsburgh (first with SU support staff, then maybe alumni or boosters) apparently never existed, or if it did, any records of such a bus have also been hidden or destroyed, as no evidence exists that such a bus ever made a trip to Pittsburgh. These are just the facts. From here speculation as to Tomaselli’s motives can go where they will, but he is not a tiny bit credible. My only study of the law comes from watching tv, and even I could cross examine Tomaselli and shatter his claims.
I don’t know what happened with Bernie Fine, Laurie Fine and Bobby Davis, but I do not believe he was molested. I wish the SOL had not expired, because I would love to see Bernie get his day in court to either clear his name or answer for what he (allegedly) has done. Unfortunately, that seems incredibly unlikely to happen.
F#&% the Big East

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