This Season is Different and That is Hard to Explain
The Syracuse basketball team is starting to make me look bad.
Every approaching game, I look at the opponent before turning to my girlfriend to say, "This could be a tough one. I am worried." Then Syracuse proceeds to run away with a double-digit victory.
The next game gets closer and I, of course, repeat my concerns. Why wouldn't I? Before this year, season-after-season, my worries would have been validated with several frustrating losses by now.
But this year I just sound like an idiot. I look at the upcoming game, I say my spiel and she says loudly, "You say that every game!" "Yeah, but this time is different!" And it turns out to be exactly the same situation as the last: Syracuse plays lights out and rolls to a victory.
This season is so different than anything I've ever experienced as a Syracuse fan. I can't change the way I've been cheering for two decades now, and I have no idea how to explain it to others.
I just cannot turn on a game expecting domination. I am continually bracing myself for the bottom to follow out at least once. And no matter what I say, no one seems to understand.
I'm not alone on this, right? Are you getting the same flack from your friends and loved ones as you attempt to cheer the same way you always do? (i.e. whining, yelling, only happy when the final buzzer sounds and Syracuse has miraculously won)
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You are not alone
Its hard for people who are not long-suffering Syracuse fans to understand the extent to which the basketball team is capable of totally imploding. When I was growing up and watching the games with my family, my dad would routinely go to bed before the end of the game because he just couldn’t stand that feeling we all have knowing SU can blow a solid lead in the final minutes.
My brother and I were watching a game with non-initiated friends just a couple of weeks ago and trying to explain to them why we weren’t excited that Syracuse had a fairly solid lead in the 4th quarter. They made no attempt to hide the fact that they thought we were being ridiculously cynical. They just don’t know.
I would blame it on the NCAA finals in 87 against Indiana, but that would just sound like sour gapes (and perhaps give away my age).
by Mazzie on Jan 15, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Exactly!
There have definitely been seasons where I thought, “For my own health, maybe I should just sit a few games out and come back in March.”
I imagine it’s worse the longer you’ve been a fan. Which makes me wonder if some of the younger fans just starting now will grow up without the sense of an inevitable loss. But I’m probably getting ahead of myself here…
I'm the same way.
I approach every game as a fan the same way. Worry and fear. Even when other fans say we’ll probably roll this team or that I always say, “Hey, ya never know.” Like you, it’s been driven into me by years and years of excruciatingly tough games. We’re not the only ones. Last night at the Dome SU saw their 30 point lead cut to 22. Everyone was going crazy. “Oh my GOD! C’mon guys!” That made me chuckle. We’ve just had the ball pulled out from under us so many times we can’t help it. Now I’m afraid that as soon as I get comfortable with blowing teams out we’ll lose a couple games in a row. That is with knowing full well that nothing I do as a fan effects the team in any way.
I don’t get grief from friends because they are all the same way. And even when I speak confidently of the Orange to my wife she gives me the “Ya never know.”
Go Orange!
by MBorkowski on Jan 15, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Aah, this made me feel so much better.
It’s like you said exactly what I was thinking.
I feel a little less crazy, but will remained concerned for every game.
Yes to all this
The pain of past disappontments and the big east gauntlet has definitely conditioned me to never err on the side of winning.
Take the Pitt game to tonight for example. Does it matter that Pitt is playIng worse than depaul and haven’t won a big east game yet? Does it matter that this game is at home and not the zoo? Not at all – I still am terrified of what Pitt will bring up here and won’t believe we’ve won until the final buzzer sounds.
It’s easy to say “hey Pitt sucks,” but I see a team that is becoming desperate to win and will pull out all the stops to do so. Hence my nervous nature.
by Pinker on Jan 16, 2012 9:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am with ya
The only difference is that I converted my wife to an SU fan 15 years ago, so she’s just like me. I look at the schedule and am legitimately worried about every game for the rest of the season
by Conrad13 on Jan 15, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you man
I’m the guy who was (in 2010) and currently am petrified of Syracuse getting a #1 seed in the tournament because if, SOMEHOW, Cuse were the first 1 to lose to a 16 – and it will happen someday – it would not be fun to follow sports anymore. I literally had a nightmare the night before the Vermont game two years ago that Cuse would lose.
This team will have some closer games and will lose a couple and I just hope that when that happens, they do it in a confidence-inspiring way. This is a special team and it’s so much fun to root for them, and I don’t want that to change with a UMass 2008-esque loss.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
The UMass loss
Was one of the most bullshit things I have seen in thirty years. Hard to be confident when that is in the recent past.
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UMass
I went UMass undergrad, but been diehard Cuse my whole life. Which UMass loss are you referring to? Cuse never played UMass in 2008.
Played them in Hawaii in 1995 when I was a freshman at UMass. Cuse lost to them in 1994 because the NCAA wanted to screw SU after their NCAA violation. they pinned Cuse against Princeton(upset alerts back then) and then against UMass in Massachsetts following round.
On iPad – sorry for typos)
"44 is embarrassing you!"
I can’t decide if you are intentionally repressing these games or if you’ve actually forgotten.
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
Yeah, didn't we lose to them twice that season?
Once in regular season & once in NIT? I think we even scored 100 & lost one of those games.
Shut up brain or I'll stab you with a Q-tip
It was in the NIT
in the 07-08 season; they also lost (in calendar year 2007) during that same season to UMass in the Dome but that wasn’t as soul-crushing a loss.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Jan 16, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I read a few of these out loud to my lady friend.
She just sort of laughed. But it’s making me feel better to know I’m not alone.
Far from alone
But better to be under-confident than one of those over-confident idiots that gets into Twitter debates with the media over minutiae. IMHO, of course.
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There hasn't been a game yet
Where I haven’t yelled at the tv screen once, regardless of the lead. My throat hurt from yelling during the Marquette game.
by pegs on Jan 15, 2012 12:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Totally agree
I go into the game the same way. Scared as shit. I’ve turned my step dad from a mild Cuse fan into a diehard one over the past few years and he made a vital error this morning. He said to me “I just dont see this team losing, they are too dominant”. My immediate response was “well, there goes the final four….thanks”. When watching the cuse play, you HAVE to remember heartbreaking losses. Its like its ingrained in you. I’ve been watching cuse for 25 years and its literally part of my DNA to think we’ll lose every game right before we play it. Now, I only think that for a second but I dont think there has ever been an SU game where I didnt, at least for a second, think what would happen if we lost.
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Jan 15, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions
Never good enough
I was shaking my head at the fact we couldn’t rebound up 29 last night. My fiancee, another Cuse grad who goes into every game saying “I’m not sure, this could be the one” laughs at me. For me, it was the Pitt game in 08 (?) where Paul Harris continually gave them the ball under the basket with under a minute to go. You don’t forget those games, especially when you live outside of Pittsburgh.
by Matt M. on Jan 15, 2012 12:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yep
The feelings of dread didn’t start with that game, but it’s probably the one remember more vividly than any others. I had to go out in the back yard and just throw rocks in the air for 20 minutes just to cool off after that one. I’ll never forget it.
I'm With You
It is a self-defense mechanism we have developed over the years. Don’t stash it too far away, it will come in handy eventually.
Orange since the mid '80s.
When they do lose
I expect the usual suspects to crawl out of the woodwork with the same old complaints about Boeheim’s coaching and the 2-3 zone.
Glad you said it
Each game my wife says how is this team….my response is always the same. We can lose to this team very easily. She’s starting to think I’m nuts when she asks the final score and I tell her we won by 25
I never get excited when we’re up by 30 at half because it can vaporize in a hurry and it has recently.
It’s a game of runs and the difference with this team is we score in bunches and do it faster than any time I can remember. We go from up 5 to up 20 in the blink of eye. It’s really amazing.
I just had this conversation with my mom about 10 minutes ago
I’ll probably never manage to go into a game sure that we’ll win. I get more nervous as time goes on. Because it probably has to happen some time, and when it does happen, even though the team will still be a great team after that, it’ll still suck. I want to be emotionally prepared. And if we somehow didn’t lose before the tournament, I’d be even MORE worried.
I’ve just seen SU blow too many leads and let too many teams in to games. Not to mention that it isn’t just SU. We’ve all seen other teams that looked unstoppable lose.
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
Yup, you said it.
All season long I’m waiting for the something bad to happen, like when Dion rolled jhis ankle a couple of games ago. Then he comes back in the 2nd half and is a monster.
Fingers crossed, this could be the year.
I am the exact same.
My girlfriend thinks I’m crazy for stressing about the games the way I do, but I can’t help it. It is crazy a little bit, but that just seems to be how it is for Syracuse fans.
This team really is great to watch though and I am going to enjoy it as much as I can because we all know how rare it is.
nope - not me
every game before the first half run when we are tied or only leading by a couple my gf says “Syracuse is going to lose this one” and I always tell her simply “nope.” I have not been worried about losing a game yet this season. Too many weapons. I’m not saying we’ll go undefeated, just that when we finally lose I’ll be surprised.
F#&% the Big East
This is the best support group ever.
I just can’t stop crying. I finally know that I’m not crazy. Trust me, it gets easier. The hurt is replaced with healing. The haunting with excitement. YOU DID THIS TO ME, RONY SEIKALY!! YOU DID THIS!!
by Robdanjoe on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
All DC had to do was make a free throw.
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by ezcuse on Jan 15, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
VP
All the older Cuse fans have been saying the same exact thing as I’m going to say. You’re not alone in feeling like the next game will be the next loss. We’ve all been through it time and time again. Two years ago was the first time that I didn’t feel that sense of dread leading up to games. I legitimately thought that we could win games. It was a new experience that I just couldn’t believe. So far this year, I haven’t gotten to that point yet, but I feel it could be close. Those of us that have been fans for over 10 years all know about the fear and dread. Even during the title run, I still had it to some extent.
But let’s all get past that and focus on our winning team. This team has already accomplished so much and there’s still half the season remaining.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Jan 15, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ditto!
And this is also the first season where our dominance is evident from wire to wire. Even when we have a close game, Im just not worried- we’re clearly the better team.
It just feels weird.
My girlfriend was reading through these comments
and I think it caused her to feel sorry for me/us. “That’s not a fun way to cheer.”
No, not always. But it does make seasons like this year that much more exciting (so far).
Yea...
Totally with you. I am pretty sure we are gonna lose tonight for example. With two different Syracuse records riding on this game (and since it’s freakin’ Pitt) I’m just sure we are gonna come down to earth.
I do this all the time. As I think any die-hard SU fan does. And this thread would back that up. So don’t worry, you are in good company.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
It's hard not to be cautious
We’ve been burned numerous times… from Raf’s injury/Navy loss to Indiana to Richmond to Kentucky to MSU second-half collapse to Vermont to Onuaku injury to even Marquette last year. Even a Penn and Rhode Island thrown in there for good measure.
But we can still be cautiously optimistic because of 2003. That changed everything.
All this bellyaching about #1 votes and media respect is “the most bullshit thing I have heard” in my 5 decades of bleeding orange. Notice that the above list of disappointments always involves March-April, rather than January. Whether the season is going to have heartache is based exclusively on what happens in the Big Dance, not the polls and news reports.
In fact, complaining about lack of respect now is the opposite of cautious optimism, IMO.
This particular post and comments section rules. It definitely reflects how I feel.
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Relax
Grew up in Syracuse a half century plus ago. Have watched JB become a better coach especially in the last few years which I attribute to the coach K effect. I still hate Duke, but you cannot deny that hanging out with K and the NBA coaches these past few years at Olympics and worlds hasn’t helped.
Anyway, I concluded several weeks ago that the next loss for SU will be in 2013. So, relax folks and enjoy. This is an intersection of cosmic forces that only occurs once in a lifetime.
so with the impending Mayan apocolypse
once Murray St finally loses we’ll become the last team ever to be undefeated…
F#&% the Big East
I'm with you!
So this is my GF first’ season following ’cuse… or college basketball at all for that mater. It was great to show her this post to show her that I am not alone. After so many years of Syracuse breaking my heart in miraculously cruel ways I have learned to put up a protective shell. I want to trust Syracuse, I love Syracuse but I have been hurt in the past.
Hopefully she will never know the pain we have experienced, but it is those painful moments that have made me the neurotic and die hard fan that I am. I cherish every win, and will continue to walk into every game thinking that we will find a new way to destroy my hopes and dreams…maybe not this year though!
btw my GF can name 10 Syracuse players on this roster, not that i’m bragging or anything. She’ll need to read HTGAO soon. I feel like we are in an interfaith relationship, luckily she wasn’t raised with any religion in her house so shes willing to convert to Orangism and her family is very supportive.
by cuse08 on Jan 16, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So true...
Yes, the fear of the heart-wrenching loss is still there every time. I realized recently I’ve been a Syracuse Orange basketball fan for 30 years… and I’m only 37. For me, it all comes back to Keith Smart’s jumper. The excitement, the elation, the devastation. When I watch the agony of defeat videos I feel it. I think I’ll always feel it when Syracuse steps on the court.
I still can’t believe Syracuse won the 6 overtime game to Connecticut. In my head I still live in fear of that game because it went on and on and I can’t seem to fathom the ending where Syracuse won.
But as I watch this year’s team, something else has come to mind. Maybe the reason Syracuse always had these devastating moments is that Syracuse never really was as good as they were rated. Maybe Boeheim’s 2-3 zone and offensive sets have allowed Syracuse to be a top-20 team when they really only had top-40 talent? Don’t get me wrong, Syracuse has had a lot of great talent, but have they had the same talent as Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, Michigan, Indiana… or has Boeheim’s system just outperformed everyone else’s?
Now that Syracuse seems to really have the talent, thanks in large part to a Championship win and stronger recruiting by the assistant coaches… maybe Syracuse really is the elite team this time.
I will say in conclusion that the commentators are just plain silly this year. I liked how in the Providence game, with 1 minute left and the score 35-21, the commentators lauded Providence for “keeping it in reach”. If you’re down 14 and you only managed 21 points the entire half, I think its hard to say you’re in reach. Then Syracuse buried a 3 to go up 17 and I didn’t hear that comment again.
Keep cheering everyone. I for one will remain afraid until the buzzer sounds on the last game of the year.

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