Jim Boeheim: 'The Ideal Conference Has 10 Teams'
by Sean Keeley on Sep 8, 2011 10:19 AM EDT
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PrintLost in all of this conference realignment/expansion/implosion talk is the effect that its all going to have on basketball. While everyone talks about how strange it would be to have a 16-team conference, they usually forget that the Big East was a 16-team basketball conference before being a 16-team conference was cool.
Now the conference will be 17 with the addition of TCU and that's not counting the possibility that more teams are coming. Let alone the fact that top-notch programs like Kansas could be among them. Of course the Big East could lose some schools as well, the whole thing is so dicey at this point.
Figuring out how the football will shake out is easy. It's how the basketball side will readjust that's the tricky part.
Andy Katz took a look at some of the scenarios in play and he spoke with a curmudgeony expert on such matters, Syracuse Orange head coach Jim Boeheim.
"The ideal conference has 10 teams in the same geographic area where you play everyone twice,'' Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim said. "We're going as far away from that as we can. Why? To make money.''
At this point, Boeheim thinks the Big East might work best if it goes to 20 teams and splits into 2 conference (as many have drawn up). At least then you could maintain some semblance of rivalries and geographic balance. Otherwise, as Katz puts it, its less of a conference and more of a scheduling arrangement between teams.
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Players wear nutters instead of these baggy short pants juvenile delinquents favor.
Four passes before a shot.
Players refer to all coaches and referees as “Sir.”
SU still plays in Manley Field House.
We needed Penn St.
And we were shortsighted.
Game over on that dream.
Sorry JB. We all wish the world was different.
Dictated, but not read.
As with all conference realignment
I will beleive it when I see it. i like talking sports, but for some reason conference realignment talk always bothers me. It seems to be rife with insane rumors which 99.9999% of the time reveal themselves to be completely innacurate. it also seems like something that EVERYONE has a different opinion on, ie We NEED to merge with this conference, or we NEED these teams to be viable.
I guess I have a question:
Have we ever seen a conference implode due to enough teams leaving and the rest joining another conference? has that ever really happened?
Just seems like its all just talk, talk, talk, and if something ever does happen, its completely undramatic. Like in 05, when got UConn, USF and LVille and lost BC and VTech and Miami.
Someones always looking to join up or jump ship.
It just didnt seem that dramatic. SU still plays Pitt and WVU, and sometimes Penn State these days.
I guess I never got the argument that Cuse should join the ACC for football/basketball.
SWC?
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didn't that happen with the Southwest Conference in the 90s?
Arkansas and half the now Big-12 ditched, leaving SMU and others holding the bag.
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If SU is only going to play G'town once a year...
What difference does it make if it’s a non-conference game?
At least in the ACC, SU would be in a respected and reasonably stable football conference.
I guess there is precendent for a major conference failing
Albeit, not overnight, it happened over 5 years.
Southwest Conference (1914–1996) – Due to fallout from numerous recruiting scandals throughout the 1980s, most notoriously at SMU, the conference went into terminal decline.
Arkansas started the process, announcing it would leave the SWC for the Southeastern Conference effective in 1991, leaving the conference with eight teams in Texas.
Four members—Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech—joined with the Big 8 in 1994, forming the Big 12 under a new charter.
Houston became a charter member of Conference USA (C-USA) in 1995, and has remained there.
Rice, SMU, and TCU joined the WAC. TCU left the WAC in 2001 to join C-USA, and moved again to the Mountain West Conference in 2005. At the same time TCU departed for the MWC, Rice and SMU rejoined Houston in C-USA. TCU will leave the MWC for the Big East in 2012.
We agree JB
And the ideal conference looks like this. However, wishful thinking in my series notwithstanding, there’s no way to get there from here.
Anyone else get a feeling that how expansion plays out
will affect how long JB sticks around? In other words, if BEC screws up it will force the “I’m getting too old for this s**t” decision to call it a career sooner than later.
No
He’s not fond of the 16/17-team Big East, hated the idea of going to the ACC, and is still around. Conference realignment will not make JB leave, and he can keep whining and keep winning basketball games as long as he wants to as far as I’m concerned.
Doesn't Jim Boeheim like money?
Isn’t this what the current D1 college system is set up for, making more money? DIII is where money doesn’t really factor…
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Yes. Yes, he does. He also needs it to keep Juli Boeheim happy.
But he seems to be feeling pimped by all these dealings that he can’t control directly.
by lemonysnicket9 on Sep 8, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny Story about JB and Juli
My brother works for wegmans in the meat dept in Dewitt. He said that the Boeheim’s are regulars in the store. On a couple separate occasions my brother had waited on them. He said Juli always picked out a big expensive steak and Jim would wait for it to be wrapped up while she moved on into the store. As soon as she left his sight he would tell my brother to wrap a smaller cheaper steak as “she’ll never know the difference”
So deep down he is a true frugal CNYer just like most of us despite him millions
ha, nice, jimmy.
and yeah, somehow that doesn’t seem surprising to me at all. CNYer to the bone.
by lemonysnicket9 on Sep 8, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh
That’s great
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