Jim Boeheim Grinning & Bearing It, Barely...
by Sean Keeley on Sep 19, 2011 6:03 PM EDT
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PrintObviously, Jim Boeheim hates the idea of Syracuse going to the ACC.
You can give me all the official statements you want. We all know they're B.S. and the idea of SU playing Clemson & Florida State instead of Georgetown and Villanova makes him vomit.
Jim is doing his best to be a team player as he and the other Syracuse brass make the rounds. Of course, Jim Boeheim can only stop Jim Boeheim from being Jim Boeheim so often and the curmudgeon is beginning to reveal himself...
"If conference commissioners were the founding fathers of this country, we would have Guatemala, Uruguay and Argentina in the United States," Boeheim said. "This audience knows why we are doing this. There's two reasons: Money and football.
"We're going to end up with mega conferences and 10 years from now either I'm going to be dead wrong -- and I'll be the first to admit it -- or everybody is going to be like, why did we do this again? Why is Alabama playing Texas A&M this week and going to Texas Tech next weekend? And why is Syracuse going to Miami in basketball this week and next week they're going to play Florida State?"
Boeheim then makes sure to fire the first warning shot across the bow of the Carolina Cartel:
"Where would you want to go to to a tournament for five days? Let's see: Greensboro, North Carolina, or New York City? Jeez. Let me think about that one and get back to you."
For those wondering how much input the SU legend had in determining if Syracuse would go to the ACC, he admits that as of last Thursday, he had absolutely no idea just like you and I. Kinda crazy.
Boeheim also said he "think UConn will be in the ACC" but admits it's merely a guess.
My prediction? Jim Boeheim is going to go scorched Earth on the ACC next year and end up the most hated man in the conference. He hates the move, Syracuse will never fire him and he's at the point in his career when he just doesn't give a f***. I'm suddenly very excited...
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Obviously I don't like Boeheim on the court
but off the court I’ve always appreciated that he isn’t afraid to speak his mind. It’s one of my favorite things about Calhoun too: no filter.
Boeheim...the voice of reason
I agree with Jimmy B here. My Nazareth College golden Flyers didn’t travel outside our own area code, let alone across state. COLLEGE athletics?
RIT > All other Rochester-area schools
Thank you and good day.
by SlithyMatt on Sep 20, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Football the ONE SPORT TO RULE THEM ALL!
Sadly, that setup the Big East for long term failure with so many non-football schools. This was inevitable after the first ACC raid went through.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Sep 19, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
I was sooo hoping PTI was gonna have him on today.
Wilbon basically went to bat saying the same thing.
So am I…but you all knew that already.
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
Oh, Jim
You slay me. Something tells me he’s just getting warmed up. I smell a tshirt coming on.
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awww, Jimmy B, you’re killin me. I love Greensboro. I mean, you’re right, but I still love that city. :(
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
As someone who was born in NYC but raised in Greensboro I am torn on that comment.
As an ACC fan I am glad that Syracuse is joining the conference, even if Jim isn’t too happy about it.
If Duke ever built a Cameron Outdoor Stadium, it would be Autzen.
I wasn’t raised there, but I went to UNC-Greensboro for my junior and senior years of undergrad (and lived there another year and a half after that before going up to Syracuse). My wife grew up near Winston-Salem and her parents still live there. It was really a nice place to live. Wish I could have ended up living back there.
For the NC connection, and because I can go to Syracuse games locally now, I really like the move. And I do think that for all his talk… the move will grow on him.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Quiet, you. Go to the WVU boards, at least until they move to the SEC. :)
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Oh, I love Jimmy...and he knows how to hold a simmering grudge.
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
To atone for my otherwise bitter temperment today...
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
by StrawHatGuy on Sep 19, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, baby
Make it and I’ll buy it. Save some space on the back for more scalding commentary from our pissy old friend.
Can't unless I redesign the logos
as they are just ‘color overlay’ effects on copyrighted images.
That would unleash world of suck.
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
“I LOVE IT IN GREENSBORO BUT THE BRIGHT LIGHTS OF NEW YORK FOR THE ACC WOULD BE AWE-SOME BAAABBYYYYY!! IF I’M THE ACC I’M LISTENING TO JIMMY B WITH OPEN EARS AND JUST IMAGINE COACH K AND HIS DUKIES BATTLING UNC AND SYRACUSE AT THE GARDEN!! IT WOULD BE FAN-TASTIC!
Virginia Tech got a raw deal, though."
Twitter: RyanMcD29
by RyanMcD29 on Sep 20, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the best line in the article
In referring to Bob Knight, John Calipari and Rick Pitiino, the other hoops coaches to address the Monday Morning Quarterback Club
“Coach Knight is legend
ary," Boeheim told the audience, “and the other two think they are.”
Burn…
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
Dammit beavis!
WHERE’S THE EDIT BUTTON?
“Coach Knight is legendary,” Boeheim told the audience, “and the other two think they are.”
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
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'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
by Orange22 on Sep 19, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope I'm not the only one who gets that
Otherwise the terrorists win
"Grind now, shine later." - Wesley Johnson
The terrorists do not win
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I hate Jim Boeheim most of the time
And I’m on record calling him a “goatfucker” but this is one of my favorite things that I’ve seen in a long time from a coach.
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
Fact on Villanova Sports
I'm going to miss BE basketball :(
Football will probably be NEATO! And Lax…..but basketball won’t ever be the same. I’m glad he isn’t afraid to make a stink.
Born in '87, Orange fan since '86
by StealthTurkey on Sep 19, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic Boeheim
this is why we love the guy.
To call his comments “grinning and bearing it,” though, is way off. This might be the opposite of that.
in all fairness
Wasn’t Boeheim originally against being a part of the Big East?
by stumpycuse on Sep 19, 2011 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How do you logically rationalize
the state of college athletics. Kids get banned for taking a free meal, books cars etc… Universities get less scholarships, banned from post season play and dragged through the media when their boosters “illegally” provide benefits to recruits. But when College Presidents throw history, rivalries, basic decency out the window under the guise of “It was a good fit academically”, yet everyone in the universe knows money was the key factor, its all good. Now I love SU, and understand why they made the move, but this is FUCKING INSANE!
SU 97
Excellent quote.
And to be fair to the ACC, I think they agree with him on the NYC thing. I’m sure they can’t wait until MSG is available for the ACC Tournament.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
You boys are in the South now. They may throw you an MSG bone, but you’ll be south of DC for your conference tourny 9 out of ten times. And Jim Calhoun today saying that other than St. John’s and Seton Hall, no other school has as much influence in NYC than UConn. Did the ACC look at the map and realize that Penn State is actually closer to New York City than Syracuse? Whoops!
NYC Alumni
Have you forgotten about all the SU fans that show up for anything Syracuse-related in NYC? Why would Penn St. leave the Big 10 and the fistfuls of cash they’re getting for the next 25 years? Wake up, man.
by TheGeneral20 on Sep 19, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Alumni showing up is not capturing the market. New York newspapers don’t even give more than a line to Cuse scores. Penn State and Notre Dame football get full pages. And Syracuse only gets more than a line when they play St. John’s. Penn State isn’t leaving the Big 10, but Syracuse does not capture the NYC market by any stretch. New York newsday did not even include Cuse / usc score in Sunday’s paper. Why do Syracuse fans want to be New Yorkers so bad. Is the City of Syracuse that awfull?
NYC Coverage
Redmen, so cute…Cuse basketball gets 10 times the coverage in NYC that the Johnnies do. The NY Post and TV stations all cover the ‘Cuse extensively. Can’t remember the last time I saw Penn State basketball mentioned. As for St. Johns, they’re typically mentioned with a tone of disappointment.
by JB Reafsnyder Fan on Sep 19, 2011 9:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
cute indeed
JB, this troll essentially reads a Long Island paper (Newsday) and quotes the self-serving Jim Calhoun to form his opinions. Apparently he’s also under the impression that Syracuse fans all come from Syracuse and want to be New Yorkers (cause, you know, St John’s fans all come from Queens and want to be New Yorkers too).
gotta love those commuter school homers from Queens…
by The Invisible Swordsman on Sep 19, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep dreaming boys. Guess none of you are from the City since this year’s story was that St. John’s brought college basketball back to the City. How could they bring it back if Cuse always had it? Have fun – it’s been real.
And Queens is actually in New York City if you didn’t know! Guess Mets and Yanks aren’t in the City since they are in teh Bronx and Queens – But Syracuse is in the City!
I'm a New Yorker, born and bred
take it from me, the Mets and Yankees DON’T play in the city. Manhattan is the city. Queens may be a borough, but wake me up when Queens is home to anything more than tennis, the Mets, Aqueduct, and airports to get the hell out of Queens.
St Johns brought basketball back? That’s why SU still had more fans when we played at MSG. :)
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Yes they did – you should look back at the paper coverage. And Garden attendence. And since I was at all the games Cuse did not have more fans this season. They have in years past and always will when the Johnnies stink. That’s how New York rolls. The Dome is really going to fill up when Wake Forest comes in!
paper coverage
Would be bc it’s a story the writers can harp on. SU owning NYC hasn’t been news since the early 2000’s. You got paper coverage bc they could finally say NYers remembered you had a team.
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by ljmilman on Sep 20, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Why the hate for Queens?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
No hate for Queens
Heck, I’m a Mets fan. Fact of the matter is it’s not really NYC. It’s got a whole other feel to it. I was more making the point that Queens (outside of the metro area) isn’t really known for much. Brooklyn can claim Pizza, the Bronx has the Yankees (which is unfortunately more meaningful than the Mets), and Manhattan is NYC.
Staten Island….well, they’re the crappy borough (no offense to any from SI)
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by ljmilman on Sep 20, 2011 5:51 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
No, let's be clear, you are from Queens, not New York
if you need a bridge or tunnel to get there, you ain’t from there. Bye troll
by The Invisible Swordsman on Sep 20, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
that argument
is ridiculous… bridge and tunnelers are people from Jersey, Staten Island and Long Island… not Brookly/Queens/BX… With that being said, I’ve never heard of whatever paper this goof was trying to say was evidence of Syracuse not being popular in NYC…
by Quint Stevenson on Sep 20, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to debate what NYC residents
consider to be city and not the city, but technically Staten Island is one of the five boroughs.
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
Staten Island
is actually the 8th borough.
The 5th is Philly; then Hoboken; then Westchester; then Staten Island…
by Quint Stevenson on Sep 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yet, more SU fans show up to the Garden to watch the two teams play....
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I remember Dick Weiss writing about the Orange very often in the Daily News when I lived in Brooklyn. I also remember MSG being a sea of Orange every time SU came to town. Even when playing St. Johns.
haven’t lived here in a while huh? Cuse fans do come to the Garden, that is true. They also show up at Verizon and Prudential as well. They travel very well. Durham and Chapel Hill may be a bit out of reach now.
Well...
In 2009, Syracuse played Florida on a “neutral” court in Tampa. I put neutral in quotes because, obviously, there should have been a clear slant towards Florida – they are all of 2 hours away. Turns out there were more Orange fans in attendance by a healthy margin. The problem in Durham and Chapel Hill will be ticket availability more than anything. Something tells me that UNC and Duke fans have a bit more pride than Georgetown when it comes to visiting teams destroying their home court advantage.
in for a surprise
cause there are plenty of western/central NYers living in the triangle and charlotte areas.
I wouldn't be so sure
Syracuse is always a big draw in NYC, but so are Duke and UNC. The powers that be at both MSG and the ACC know how much cash is as stake to have teh ACC tournament at the Garden. I don’t forsee it being any more than every fourth year that it’s held there. MSG, Atlanta, Charlotte, Greensboro will end up being the regular rotation.
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
by FeloniousPhunk on Sep 20, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Likely not Atlanta....
The Dome is used for the SEC tourney and I don’t think that will move…..
Oops, sorry.....
From 1998-2014, the Dome had it 10 times, everywhere else combined 7. For some reason I thought it was always held here in ATL. Goes to show how important SEC hoops is to me….
NYC is THE basketball mecca.
The ACC had no reason to look there before but now there is a team with ties to NY, regardless of how strong you think they are, and another Northeastern team as well. Plus, if the BE falls apart and loses MSG, why the hell wouldn’t the ACC jump on that? Add to this the fact that UConn may yet come along for the ACC ride and there is a pretty good argument to be made for looking at NYC as part of an ACC Tourney rotation.
Also, Penn State isn’t going anywhere. They are locked in for a pretty long time in terms of TV rights, so bringing them up is pointless, even if they are a bigger NYC draw.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
Thank you, Jimmy B...
For saying what many ’Cuse sports fans an alums have been saying since we pulled this move.
And as an NYC native, hell yeah New York is a MUCH better destination than Greensboro, N.C. for, well, anything. Anything that matters, anyway.
I hate that we’re leaving the Big East, even if I understand why. Couldn’t those small Catholic schools just created football schools so we could have avoided all this shit?
Dedicated Syracuse Orange, New York Yankees, New York Jets, New York Knicks and New York Rangers fan. Riding and dying with 'em.
Yeah but St Johns football? Georgetown Football?
Nobody would show up. Half of both of those venues are usually made up of us ORANGE!
Born in '87, Orange fan since '86
by StealthTurkey on Sep 19, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
FTW.
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by JohnCassillo on Sep 19, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
What's a DePAUL?
Born in '87, Orange fan since '86
by StealthTurkey on Sep 19, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't even get me started on DePaul...
how they were allowed into the Big East defies logic. What a total waste. I live in Chicago and, sure, I’m glad Syracuse will be making a visit this year on New Year’s Day, but DePaul literally has about as many fans as a small HS. When I saw Cuse play “at” DePaul a few years ago there were hardly any students in attendance…or any other fans for that matter. Definitely more Cuse fans. Part of the reason is that they play out in Rosemont, IL (despite the campus being in a nice part of Chicago), which is 1 stop on the El from O’Hare airport.
Whatever, at least I’ll get front row seats for like $5. I can’t wait to see what kind of crowd they get this year since Cuse is coming to town over winter break.
To Quote Salt n Peppa
Whatta man, whatta man, whatta mighty fine man.
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by I miss DIAP! on Sep 20, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Jimmy B
people get down on him a lot, but that man is Cuse basketball. And thats exactly how Cuse basketball feels about all this.
Its been like swallowing bad tasting medicine that you know will cure you.
Does the move to the ACC
replace the DO calling Gmac overrated as the “most bullshit thing” he’s seen in his coaching tenure?
by Rocket Ship Science on Sep 19, 2011 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
Good knowledge of basketball, poor knowledge of American history
“If conference commissioners were the founding fathers of this country, we would have Guatemala, Uruguay and Argentina in the United States,” Boeheim said.
Remember when the country was 13 states? Apparently he’s never heard of manifest destiny.
He's referring solely to
their extreme southern geographical location relative to the continental United States. Its a snipe against all the southern schools in the ACC compared to the lack of northern ones.
If he really wanted to stick it in and twist, he would have said “and then they decided to put the District of Colombia in Brazil”
so Im guessing AD DR GROSS haz been crossed off the christmas list?
How much longer does Jimmy B coach
I think he might get really pissed off and just not want to deal with this. Vegas has the line on him coaching at 3 years (assuming we go to ACC next year).
I’d still like to see a Boeheim make a statement that he’ll do everything in his power to schedule Georgetown once a year.
moo
Brent Axe
had Dr. Gross on the radio yesterday. Gross and the Georgetown AD have already had discussions on making sure the SU/GTown basketball series continues after the whole realignment mess is done.
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
Of course Boeheim is against it....
He can win the National Championship in any conference his team is in. But if you ever want to win it in football, you need to be in one of the emerging four superconferences.
Sorry Jim, we can’t afford to get left behind in a weakened Big East. If you do, then you get stuck in Boise’s position…..only one to spell all the words right, but losing the bee. (Repost)
Too bad there hasn't always been a DH...then we never would have to hear about this Ruth guy...
If we could get anything we wanted, we would stay in a sustainable Big East.
But as of right now, the Big East is very unstable and its model lacks sustainability. There are too few football schools and too many basketball-only schools, some of which should never have joined. The BE had no business adding DePaul and Marquette in 2005. They had no business adding ND in 1994 without football. There is no way an 8/16 ratio of football/basketball schools will work in an era of superconferences. A 12/16 ratio would work, but that’s not what the BE is fighting for. No one would want to join the BE for football-only and then the basketball conference would not work. The whole reason for the BE to exist – the Syracuse/Georgetown rivalry – has been thrown on the backburner by officials in Providence.
Leaving the BE is something none of us wanted to do, but considering the direction of the BE, if they’re not going to change, it’s in our best interests to go to a conference that’s not going to become chaotic anytime soon. I don’t want that conference to be the Big Ten, so the ACC is the only option we have.
We will definitely miss the BE, especially all the great BET moments, but it’s time to move on.
"Jim Boeheim is going to go scorched Earth on the ACC next year and end up the most hated man in the conference"
Syracuse’s first ACC basketball season could very well end up being what Bill Simmons would call an “Eff You” season. Forget that, “We’re up 5 with 10 minutes to play, lets burn some clock” bullshit that Jim B usually does. It could end up being pedal to the metal, “You wanted us, now you got us,” time. Combine that with the fact that every ACC school except Duke still has no idea how to play against the 2-3, and I expect the Orange to do very well to start off.
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
the "R" Word...
This is just the type of thing to drive a man into retirement…
Orange you glad it's not football season?
Jimbo
I dont understand why he hates the move so much. Perhaps because he had little or no say in it? Thats purely my opinion. It’s not like Syracuse went to the Big 10. Syracuse is now in what is undoubtedly the best basketball conference in the country. I understand your pain with regard to the (potentially) lost rivalries w/ Gtown and St. Johns. But overall, this still is a very solid move for Pitt and Syracuse. I’m a UMD fan and will thrilled to see you guys come to town. I just wish Gary was still here to battle it out with Boeheim. I love the move. I know Duke and UNC fans have to be ecstatic too. Welcome to the ACC gents.
by bsabbathforever on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
Except that
They were in undoubtedly the best basketball conference before. The ACC has been behind the BEast (if not the Big 12 as well), for a good 5 years now. Two good teams does not a power conference make. The ACC will be the best basketball conference around because Syracuse and Pitt (and prolly UConn) are coming, not vice versa.
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
by FeloniousPhunk on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
...
So the Big East was so great that Syracuse left? Pitt left? and the 3x National Champion Uconn Huskies are begging to be let in the ACC. I know its a little deeper than that, but you can’t tell me how amazing the Big East is (was) while we sit here and discuss how your team left for my conference. You can say its all strategy… and that its all because of football… and blah blah, but seriously. Here we are- you’re in the ACC- a stronger, more historic basketball conference. Life is good.
by bsabbathforever on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
While the Big East was phenonmenal for basketball
It was a trainwreck from an all sports perspective due to the conference composition, and by some accounts, deference to the basketball schools by the conference leadership and not really giving a whit about football. Under such circumstances, any school with football aspirations (which SU, Pitt, UConn, Rutgers, etc have) fleeing is the only viable option.
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
This is about football, not basketball.
If by ‘stronger’, you mean ‘stale’…and by ‘historic’ you mean ‘archaic’
The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.
A little deeper than that?
I know “a little deeper than that” can be translated to: “This had absolutely nothing to do with basketball and everything to do with football and $$$$. My point about the ACC being better in hoops than the Big East is falling on deaf ears because no one on this board will take me seriously. I understand that UNC and Puke are great and all, but they are the ONLY basketball schools left. The only other two teams that could even compete with the top eight in the BE are Maryland and FlaSt, That’s it.”
Good luck to ya, bro….Look forward to wiping everyone off the map in that conference in hoops every year, with the exception of UNC, Puke and our BE brethren…..
The ACC has always been a 2-team league
Duke, UNC and then whatever random third team decides to play the pretender in any given season. I’ll go all they way back to 1990. Since that time, Duke or Carolina have won all but 5 ACC tournament. In that same time, 11 different teams have one the Big East Tournament. More teams winning titles = more good teams = better conference. The ACC gets by on the (well deserved) recognition of two outstanding programs. The rest of the conferenece is weak sauce.
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
by FeloniousPhunk on Sep 20, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly can't wait
To take all of Tobacco Road down a peg or two when the ACC title is no longer a virtual coin flip between Duke and UNC. I might actually root for Pitt if it means that niether Blue Devils or Tar Heels are cutting down the nets.
"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes
by FeloniousPhunk on Sep 20, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I will certainly root for any BE team over the ACC....
But I’ve been ripped on here for rooting for Georgetown in the Big Dance, too, so…..
The Big East.
The power structure of the Big East always puzzled me. It seemed to work from an outsiders perspective, and I honesntly didnt delve into it too much- but it always left me wondering. Additionally, I’m not getting into a pissing match about whose conference is or was better/more historic. I apologize for baiting people in my last post. What we can all agree on is that you’re in the ACC now. Personally I dont think you’re worse for it. If Big East basketball teams are superior to ACC basketball than it will show. If not, we can all hate Duke together. Fair?
by bsabbathforever on Sep 20, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
I would say
that historically, the ACC probably has the edge on what was the Big East, however in the last ten years or so the Big East was the better of the two top to bottom. Duke and UNC were probably still a bit ahead of any Big East school in perception, if not reality, but the rest of the ACC were too far below standard to match the overall Big East strength.
And yes, we are agreed on drinking all the Dook haterade that can be had :-)
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
I took the bait.....
….and say to that, FUCK DUKE!!!!!!!
Jimmy B on OTL
Swapped out Guatemala for Panama as part of the US. Also said something like Argentina is a nice place and their President’s sister is married to Uruguay’s President. I have no reason to doubt this and accept it as fact.
Latin America’s College Team.
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