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Why Id Take Nassib Over Barkley

After watching Saturdays game, I was blown away with Ryan Nassib's play.  Since the pinstripe bowl he has looked like the first team all BE QB, but I expected him to come back to earth against SC. However, after traveling all the way across the country and playing in front of 70,000 hostile fans I can comfortably say position for position, QB (along with maybe TE, MLB, and whatever guard USC was starting that freshman from Vegas) is a position where we have the better player.  Now maybe Ill get flamed with statistics, but the tape tells a different story.  Nassib and Barkley were not playing with the same tools in the same conditions. Barkley was home, with home refs and tall fast WRS.  Nassib, on the road with - well less just say less than what USC had. Call athletic ability even (Nassib showed he can run) and we have seen all season Nassib can throw darts. The kid has a cannon. Maybe he doesn't take it in the looks category, ( hes not a bad looking guy either) but Ill take arm strength over Orange County looks all day.  He throws hard accurate balls. His touchdown pass is a perfect example.  He threaded that ball through the seam in very very good coverage against a D made entirely of 4 and 5 star guys. He runs this offense to very very well and knows when and where his guys will be open.  He started 11-11 and would have been 16 for 20 had it not been for a lot of dropped balls.  No picks agaisnt a D as good as SC is amazing.  Even more so when you consider he had no help from the run game and put the team on his back. He throws a tight hard ball and has a great grasp of this offense, the same offense that NO and GB run.  Nassib will be a pro, even if its just as a back up because any team that runs that system can plug him right it.

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Barkley on the other hand didnt impress me with any but one of his throws (which was not caught where he put it ahead of his WR so SUs DBs couldn't make a play).  He was off with his WRs (see the throw where he was looking for the back shoulder and the receiver wanted the ball in front of him) and all his touchdowns were floater jump balls.  I know he can get away with it because he has the 5 start future NFL WRs against young SU DBs who didnt get rotated out, but it doesn't show me anything.  Credit those scores to his WRs, not his great throws. Many of his yards were on dump it off screen passes.  Nothing across the middle.  No threading the needle.  I know, he doesn't have to, but consider why Tom Brady says hes so good - because he is constantly tested and it makes him perform at a higher level.

 


My point is, that maybe not in raw talent, potential or good looks, but in terms of quarterbacking as of Saturday, Nassib is the better player.  If the rolls were reversed, I dont think Barkley could keep SU competitive against SC and Nassib would have carved up a D with SCs protection, run game and WRs who dont drop balls much better than Barkley did.   

I hope that in spite of dropping the game, Ryan gains confidence from out playing arguably one of the best QBs in the nation.

And to Matt Barkley: Ryan Nassib is a swagger jacker, and your swagger just got jacked.

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The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.

by StrawHatGuy on Sep 19, 2011 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

That's what I was going to say, but he makes a good point.

Except that we had Big East refs. Matt Park said it on the radio. We will apparently have BE refs every single game this season.

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86

by StealthTurkey on Sep 19, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's easy to say that, but Nassib has looked the part in 4 games in a row now.

If USC is truly that much more talented than us (and they are), than you can’t deny Nassib had a great day. If he keeps this up he will start to separate himself from the rest of the BE as one of the best QB’s in the conference (above BJ Daniels IMO).

Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!

by NOLACuse on Sep 19, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct.

BJ’s gimmick is that he can run. When you complete 70% of your passes, and don’t throw INTs, you don’t need a gimmick.

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86

by StealthTurkey on Sep 19, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

That too

and Im not denying Barkley probably has more potential than Ryan and seems to have the intangibles people like, but as of Saturday, Ryan played a much higher level game and impressed me more.

May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.

by ryanwk628 on Sep 19, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

He just needs an offensive line.

Though they were a bit better this week than last, and Nassib is clearly learning he has to act quick if he wants to get anything done. He made one pass in the 1st quarter, I think it was a 3rd down conversion, that was unbelievable: so quick and threaded perfectly between defenders. Reminded of what an absolute magician must look like in action.

by voteprime on Sep 19, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Sean needs to give an award in honor of this site

“Player X” is an Absolute Magician to the most outstanding player on the team.

Because what we need in this world is definitely more sporting event awards? But in this case, it would be in good fun.

by Pinker on Sep 19, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Im thinking last year it was Hogue

This year, definitely looking like Ryan Nassib

by Pinker on Sep 19, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86

by StealthTurkey on Sep 19, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not on a game-by-game basis?

Instead of player of the game, it’s Magician of the Game. Put up a poll after every game, with the top 3 candidates (as selected by Sean) and let the readers vote. Then, at the end of the year, give out an Absolute Magician award for season MOP/MVP.

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Sep 19, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's easy to hit receivers

when there’s no secondary within 5 yards of the the receiver. Barkley didn’t light us up so much as hit the open guy. Nassib had to fight for everything. Kid has some talent. Just hope that next year we can get him some protection and he could be very good.

Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10

by PoetryInMoten on Sep 19, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully we can shore up the line this year

I think the OL is progressing so far… in some ways I think they played better this week than last.

If our OL can consistently handle pressure and blitzes from a defense we can score a lot of points this year. They just have to progress to that point. I think they can do it.

by mcallj on Sep 19, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nassib

also looked pretty good once we started rolling him out of the pocket. I know it’s not ideal, but as of right now it seems to work. Personally I think he is my favorite QB since McNabb.

Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10

by PoetryInMoten on Sep 19, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats part of the system

GB and NO do it all the time. Uses the bootleg to shift the LBs and create seams. Its no big deal as long as the line is one the same page.

May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.

by ryanwk628 on Sep 20, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll admit to not watching as much 'Cuse football as I should have

Over the last few years. They were terrible and I couldnt really bear to watch (and I’ll gladly accept any digs at my fanhood for it). It didn’t help that they were rarely on TV where I live, but I won’t hide behind that either. But I will say that Nassib is the real deal. He can “make all the throws” as the pundits like to say. He just has too little help. Bailey is a nice pack, but lacks the blazing speed and/or bruising physique to be elite. The O-line is still trying to get their shit together. The recieving corps is average at best, with not one star among them. And the D is still trying to gel after losing their leaders to the NFL. This is very seriously a “not 10” situation, except that, unfortunately, in football you can’t rely on just one guy. Nassib can make all the throws, and make all the right decisions, but it doesn’t matter if his WRs can’t catch, or Bailey can’t break that tackle or if the D gives up a TD on every possession. I think that this season will be a decent one. the Orange will be over .500 and make it to another meaningless .Com bowl. But until they start getting top talent again, they’re going to be stuck in neutral.

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

This year

he has made some throws that make me say WOW. Tight hard balls in narrow windows.

May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.

by ryanwk628 on Sep 20, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

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