Syracuse Spring Football: Day 4 - Season Ticket Holder Event Edition
For a while, it seemed as if this year's signing day event was doomed to never occur. On National Signing Day, a fairly large snow storm forced SU to cancel the event at Manley Field House. Today's practice, and subsequent event for season ticket holders (or who ever had the presence of mind to show up, as it turned out) was originally supposed to be held at the Carrier Dome, but last night's WNIT game caused it to be moved back to Manley.
The reception began before practice, outside in the Manley lobby. SU provided the normal cheese and cracker fare, chips, dip, and drinks.

The athletic department also set up a number of flat screen monitors showing various highlight reels of our commits.
The practice officially began shortly after all spectators were let into the bleachers. The turnout was very solid; a few hundred SU fans came out to watch practice with most of them throwing normal Syracuse conventional wisdom to the wind and staying all the way through practice until the end, and remaining for the coaches' presentation on the recruits and the Q&A session that followed.
While the first two practices that I've attended have been pretty even between the offense and defense, yesterday's was absolutely dominated by the defense the entire time. The entire unit made big play after big play, and the offense was never allowed to get into any kind of a rhythm.
Details, impressions and a summary of the post-practice presentation and Q&A with Doug Marrone after the jump...
Quarterbacks - Ryan Nassib continued his incredibly solid play that we've seen all spring. The battle for the backup QB spot is becoming more intriguing by the day. While Charley Loeb and John Kinder were pretty even during the early practices, the momentum has definitively swung to Kinder's side. Loeb struggled mightily all practice long, and was overthrowing players on nearly every difficult throw he attempted. Meanwhile, Kinder's day consisted of beautiful pass after beautiful pass. He continues to struggle at times with making good reads, especially during 7-on-7 skeleton drills, but he looks very good for the most part. Jonny Miller was not at yesterday's practice.
The QBs took part in a very interesting position drill that involved them dropping back to throw, while having large agility bags thrown at them, simulating the pass rush. As the drill progressed, the assistant running the drill began using two bags at once, which seemed to give the quarterbacks trouble.
Running backs - Prince-Tyson Gulley was kept out of most of yesterday's drills after coming up lame during a cone drill. This opened the door for Steve Rene to receive a ton of reps during practice in his place. Rene is very explosive, and might have the best raw speed of any of our backs. He does not seem to possess the same natural running back instincts that I see in Antwon Bailey or Jerome Smith, but he is definitely an interesting player and could be very dangerous in open field with his speed.
Wide Receivers - The receivers had a very up-and-down practice. Sales continues to impress every practice, picking up where he left off at the Pinstripe Bowl. Jeremiah Kobena has also looked very good all spring thus far. His speed was well documented coming to SU, but his ability to make spectacular catches is impressive. Dorian Graham, who was very impressive during Tuesday's practice, could not hang on to the ball yesterday. Jarrod West also continued to struggle with drops, which have plagued him all spring.
Tight Ends - With the departure of Beckett Wales, and the unfortunate injury to Carl Cutler, who is now out for the season with an ACL tear, the Tight Ends corps is quite thin. Nick Provo continues to be a large part of the offense. He made a particularly nice catch down the sideline on a deep play-action pass from Nassib. David Stevens also got a lot of reps, but struggled catching the ball. Freshman Lou Addazio is not cleared for full contact, but looked decent running routes.
Offensive Line - Not much to share here, but the unit struggled against the very aggressive defense today. Jarel Lowery was also out with an ankle injury.
Defensive Line - The D-Line looked very strong, with the defensive ends creating a ton of havoc in the backfield, especially Mikhail Marinovich.
Linebackers - Today was supposed to be Brice Hawkes' first full practice of the spring, but he and defensive end Max Beaulieu were notably absent from practice today. It turns out that they were excused from practice to work on school work. In his stead, Dyshawn Davis has moved into the starting role at outside linebacker, taking almost all of the reps with the first team. The other two starters, Marquis Spruill and Dan Vaughan, both had great days to practice. Linebacker is one of the big questions heading into the season with the graduation of Derrell Smith and Doug Hogue, but Spruill and Vaughan are doing a lot to quell those worries.
The second linebacker team also looked strong, with Siriki Diabate being especially impressive. He shows good instincts and really flies to the ball.
Defensive Backs - The defensive backs continue their strong play, as well as their aggressive, brazen attitude on the field. Ri'Shard Anderson, Jeremi Wilkes, Keon Lyn and Kevyn Scott have all looked great all spring. Anderson and Phillip Thomas continued to clash with players on the other side of the ball, with Phil Thomas getting into it with Kobena, and Anderson with offensive lineman Justin Pugh.
Special Teams - Ross Krautman and Shane Raupers worked extensively on their kickoffs. Both looked very solid, with Raupers getting especially good hang-time on his kickoffs.
The recruiting discussion, which was led by offensive line coach and recruiting coordinator Greg Adkins did not provide too much new information that was not already available, but there were some nice nuggets about the players and our recruiting strategy.
-Marrone opened by saying that we need to recruit "bigger, tougher, stronger players" in order to win the Big East.
-Our recruiting is focused in the immediate 250 mile radius, as well as Florida and places like Atlanta and Detroit where Syracuse has direct flights available.
-All 27 of our incoming freshman were team captains, and many are exceptional students, with three of them coming in to study engineering.
-We have one scholarship available, and it was extended to a player but it is now off the table.
-Adonis Ameen-Moore was among our top running back targets, and is important because he keeps our pipeline at Colorado powerhouse Mullen HS open.
-Kristofer Curtis has been getting into great shape this winter playing basketball, and has shed around 20 lbs.
-Durell Eskridge was heavily pursued after his commitment to SU, and will start on defense although he can play on either side of the ball.
-Keenan Hale comes from a great academic boarding school, and is also a track star. He excels in the high jump and runs the decathlon, and may do track as well as play football at SU.
-Robert Trudo finished #2 in his graduating class.
-When asked on where he would like to focus more in future recruiting, Marrone highlighted western New York, Ohio, Detroit, eastern Pennsylvania, and New Jersey where we just added another recruiter.
-Marrone is proud to say that when it comes to recruiting, "we do things the right way".
After the recruiting talk, Marrone opened things up for a general Q&A with the fans.
-When asked about TCU joining the Big East, he said that it helps solidify our BCS bowl bid, and he likes the inclusion because they are a comparable school to SU in terms of size and academics.
-The biggest things that SU needs to work on on the recruiting front is our facilities and our fan support, while the biggest strengths are the life skills program and the family atmosphere.
-One person asked about future scheduling. Marrone said he will play Penn State and Notre Dame "any time, any where". He also would like to play schools like Ohio State and Michigan State, big schools from places we recruit.
-Perhaps the most interesting anecdote came when a young fan asked about the possibility of unretiring the legendary number 44. Marrone said that if a player produces well both on and off the field, and stands for the values that are reflective of the greats who have worn 44, there is a system in place where we may see a player be allowed to wear it once again.
Overall, the event was a great success, even though Marrone seemed disappointed that they could not host the normal signing day event this year, and hopes to do the event on signing day again in the future.
SU heads to Rochester on Saturday for a scrimmage at Sahlen's Field from 12-2:15. I hope to make it out to Rochester for the scrimmage.
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Perhaps the most interesting anecdote came when a young fan asked about the possibility of unretiring the legendary number 44. Marrone said that if a player produces well both on and off the field, and stands for the values that are reflective of the greats who have worn 44, there is a system in place where we may see a player be allowed to wear it once again.
Hooray! Great report, Dan.
Go, fight, and win.
by Alex O on Mar 25, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice work Dan
love this stuff. And the tidbbit about 44 seems really intruiging. Don’t think there’s many guys out there that are that caliber, but, it could make a good recruiting tool just in case…
I also think Keenan Hale might be a hidden gem of this class. He wasn’t recruited hard by too many schools. But he seems like he’s got the athletic ability and mental attributes to make him a good player for us.
by bloodyyank44 on Mar 25, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Great Article again Dan
Good seeing you there yesterday! The turnout was pretty good, and I wished I could have stayed til the Q&A at the end of the practice but had to get home, so its good reading what took place. Kinder did indeed look good. Im worried about our depth at tight end, and it did not appear that Stevens had great hands yesterday. The defense did indeed steamroll the offense for what I saw. Seems par for the course from last year!
The wee one was very curious why we were watching football, but not in the Dome. I know kid, confusing.
it was cool seeing the new inside of Manley. I don’t know if I have been inside it since I graduated from high school, and its completely revamped. I like the new position of the bleachers.\\\
I'm liking the brashness (is that a word?)
of the secondary. Thats the kind of swagger the D needs. Lets just hope they don’t get too cocky. I love Phil Thomas as a player but I’ve seen him around a lot on campus and he seems pretty cocky. i hope his success doesn’t go to his head and he build son the great year he had last year.
Syracuse '13
One person asked about future scheduling. Marrone said he will play Penn State and Notre Dame "any time, any where". He also would like to play schools like Ohio State and Michigan State, big schools from places we recruit.
Coach knows with the type of players he can get, that we can compete with these schools now…we might not get 5 stars, but 3 stars who want a degree in engineering, 3 stars who have the brains to get better, 3 stars that will turn into the next Doug hogue, derrell smith, delone carter.
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Mar 25, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
He's right about facilities
Thats probably the biggest disadvantage that Syracuse has at the moment.
"Oh so if he's not Muslim he just gets a pass? That's called profiling mother and I don't do it!" - Sterling Mallory Archer
The size of the school hurts
When you pump out 20k kids a year, the more money they’ll give to the athletic dept and the school for these projects. Hopefully the education at SU gives the grads alot of $ to give back. What about the 4square guy, he can give the university the ultimate “check in”.
by Orange Drink on Mar 25, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its a shame
Cause we have a great facility to play in, but not really so much to practice/train in – even though Im not sure what else they need?
Im betting Doc Gross and Nancy are working on the logistics as we speak though. Im sure you will hear Doug keep mentioning it to light a fire under them.
So what dont we have that other schools have for training/practice facilities? Im just curious how we stack up. I know the Melo center is supposed to be teh awesomez, but it really seems like just a showcase with a couple of basketball courts to me…dont get me wrong, I love it, but it doesnt seem too over the top to be honest. Im guessing just because we have a dedicated basketball training facility, its that fact alone that makes the difference?
They need a full length 120 yard indoor field.
It’s hard to practice punt coverage when the ball keeps hitting the ceiling.
It’s also hard for the LAX team to practice fast breaks without a full field.
It's probably hard
to practice kickoffs too. We need more touchbacks!
Or, at the very least, kickoffs to the goalline. That 25 yard return is less daunting when it starts from the 2 yard line, rather than the 13.
Dictated, but not read.
Spoken like someone who has never set foot on the cuse campus, let alone seen the melo center in person
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Mar 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just there yesterday
And have been there quite a few times. What I lack is a reference point to what other D1 schools have.
google is an amazing thing these days....
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Mar 25, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
You could just answer his question
And not be condescending.
Also, I’m fairly certain that SU facilities are either middle of the pack or in the bottom 50% for all 1-A schools.
"Oh so if he's not Muslim he just gets a pass? That's called profiling mother and I don't do it!" - Sterling Mallory Archer
by Nick Petrilli on Mar 25, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
its not hard to type in: (enter team name) practice facilities...dukes popped up right away
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Mar 25, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not really the point though.
He doesn’t need someone to point out Google to him as he is certainly aware of its existence. What would be helpful is someone, on this board, that knows more about these things than the average college football fan providing some insight. Because even a google search doesn’t answer all the questions necessarily (and certainly not in any efficient manner).
by NOLACuse on Mar 25, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
As Dante said I'm assuming a high-ceilinged indoor full-field facility is what we are lacking.
If memory serves we have a pretty decent weight training facility, but maybe that is need of an upgrade/revamping?
mcnabb gave us a new weight room and locker rooms a few years ago, not really sure if its in that bad of shape already.
by PointBlankPeriodPeriod on Mar 25, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Marrone mentioned hot tubs
I’m assuming the medical facilities are rather shit if they only have one. My high school had more whirlpools than that.
"Oh so if he's not Muslim he just gets a pass? That's called profiling mother and I don't do it!" - Sterling Mallory Archer
by Nick Petrilli on Mar 25, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Would explain
Why it takes our guys so long to get back on the field.
Might also explained why so many get injured too.
"Oh so if he's not Muslim he just gets a pass? That's called profiling mother and I don't do it!" - Sterling Mallory Archer
by Nick Petrilli on Mar 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The other thing that always foolishly slips my mind
basketball = 16-18 players
football = 85 players
That’s a hell of a lot more bodies to keep active and healthy.
Also
Since we opened the Melo center, it freed up the Field house for field sports, like football, so now they have more practice room than ever. They also have a pretty sweet workout center attached to the Simmons part of Manley. Also, it seems the basketball facility cant be load-shared with some other programs during off seasons.
Basically a couple of indoor fields to practice in and a dedicated training and practice center outside of Manley Im guessing?
Other weight rooms are 4 times the size of SU's.
That place looks so cramped from outside, can’t imagine working out there with 85 other guys.
Great write-up, thank you
There were a few SU Football players that ran track the last few years…didnt merk and graham run track? or maybe another one of the DBs in recent years?
In the late 1980's, early 1990's
We seemed to have more crossover between track and football.
I also like that Marrone likes recruiting the guys who wrestled. Although I did not wrestle, that sport involves a lot of discipline, strength and leverage.
So track and wrestling might be the keys to successful football?
Dictated, but not read.
Dan
Thank you a million times for these write-ups. Great information. I love this ish.
Go Cuse
are those [REDACTED]s on the food table?
I just wanna tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
great work again, man. thanks
and such an elegant tortilla and guacamole spread. good news all around.
Fan support. Clearly a huge issue
Especially with that shit-ass spread.
What the hell, throw all of the chips all over the table. Yea throw a server on them, yea that looks good.
I see it differently actually.
I see it like: Look at all these chips we are giving you! This basket can’t even contain all of them!!

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