Knicks Trade Andy Rautins To Dallas As Part Of Tyson Chandler Trade

by Sean Keeley on Dec 10, 2011 1:55 PM EST

Four days ago, former Syracuse Orange Andy Rautins told reporters, "I see myself making big contributions to the [New York Knicks]."

So much for that.

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Howard Beck Confirmed: Tyson Chandler will come to Knicks via sign/trade. Hearing that Andy Rautins will go to Mavs, who also get a trade exception.
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Adding insult to injury, it sounds like Rautins will be automatically be waived by the Dallas Mavericks once the deal goes through. Rautins is a financial pawn in the overall deal. Bummer.

Sucks. Rautins spent the lockout doing what he could to remain financially-savvy and he might have to keep buckling down if he's not able to bounce back with another team. Hopefully that's not the case.

Keep an eye on Knicks blog Posting And Toasting for more updates.

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Thaaaaaaat sucks.

Maybe he ends up back on the Knicks once he clears waivers?

by DMF on Dec 10, 2011 2:10 PM EST reply actions

Don't think they can

Pretty sure the new CBA says they couldn’t resign him until July 1.

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

by wildcatlh on Dec 10, 2011 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

July 1 after contract expires or 1 year

whichever is soonest, according to the agreement available online.

F#&% the Big East

by dacj501 on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions

That sucks so badly. I was really disappointed when I read that and I'm not even a Knicks fan.

by Upstait on Dec 10, 2011 2:19 PM EST reply actions

Pretty sure he still gets his yearly salary regardless.

I think his first two years are guaranteed. Not sure. Also not what effect playing in Europe would have on that salary. If it was owed to him, can they deduct the amount he’d make in Europe from it ( sort of like when college coaches get rehired elsewhere).

by NoXCUSE99 on Dec 10, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions

Andy was a 2nd rd pick I don't think 2nd rd contracts are guaranteed

F#&% the Big East

by dacj501 on Dec 10, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

I don't think by rule they have to be, but I think it is the norm that they are.

by NoXCUSE99 on Dec 10, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions

I remember looking into this subject for some other reason not long ago.

by NoXCUSE99 on Dec 10, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions

wikipedia says his rookie contract is guaranteed BUT

the link they cite only says the Knicks signed Rautins and terms were not released. I found articles on a Knicks blog and USA Today that both state Andy’s contract was non-guaranteed, and an About.com article from right at the start of the lockout speculating about if timelines for contracts froze when the lock out started (which I believe they did) that mentions that both Landry Fields’ and Andy’s contracts would become wholly guaranteed if they were on the roster on July 31, but technically there were no rosters, and I think the NBA froze all those deadlines. So after all that, I don’t think his salary is guaranteed for this season. I hope he finds a new team.

F#&% the Big East

by dacj501 on Dec 10, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions

Maybe he can re-sign with the Knicks after Dallas waives him?

Seems kind of dumb that the Mavs have to trade for him and then dump him just so they can add the trade exception.

Anybody know if he can re-sign with the Knicks right away?

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by Kurupt on Dec 10, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions

The NBA is dumb.

by NoXCUSE99 on Dec 10, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions

can't resign with Knicks for a year

posted a link upthread a bit

F#&% the Big East

by dacj501 on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions

He can always play for Charlotte if all else fails.

Charlotte will sign anybody.

by NoXCUSE99 on Dec 10, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions

Bottom line

Somebody please sign Andy to a new contract. I’m not ready for Andy’s NBA career to end so abruptly, dammit.

by Silanfa on Dec 10, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions

As a 'Cuse alum and Knicks fan...

this sucks. I wish D’Antoni had given him more of a chance. Best of luck in Dallas, Andy.

And pretty much every guy on the NYK liked him, too.

Dedicated Syracuse Orange, New York Yankees, New York Jets, New York Knicks and New York Rangers fan. Riding and dying with 'em.

by That Guy Mel on Dec 10, 2011 3:38 PM EST reply actions

Yeah, but

Landry Fields is basically a bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic Andy Rautins. When all other things are equal, you take the bigger guy.

"If I ain't gonna be part of the greatest, I gotta be the greatest myself." Busta Rhymes

by FeloniousPhunk on Dec 12, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions

Well so much for routing for the Knicks...

It’s so hard to like NBA basketball because of stuff like this. Players are constantly traded. There’s no stability and no internal player development making it nearly impossible for fans to grow attachment to teams.

by NoEx'Cuses on Dec 10, 2011 3:55 PM EST reply actions

Yeah, that's why I hate it.

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86
I guess I made a twitter, follow @StealthTurkey

by StealthTurkey on Dec 10, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions

If only there was still an Orange alum on the Knicks to root for...

F#&% the Big East

by dacj501 on Dec 10, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah

What’s his name again?

by kd bart on Dec 10, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah I know Melo is on the team.

I just like Andy since I got to see him play more. But I hope this trade works out well for Melo.

by NoEx'Cuses on Dec 10, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions

I feel ya

just busting balls. Andy works hard, I’m sure there is a team somewhere that needs a well dressed gentleman to sit at the far end of the bench in a suit…

F#&% the Big East

by dacj501 on Dec 10, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly

He’s basically the perfect 13th man. Go Andy!

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by Lots of Pulp on Dec 12, 2011 7:38 AM EST up reply actions

Poor Andrius.

Let’s all hope for the best for him.

by adselver15 on Dec 10, 2011 4:01 PM EST reply actions

I hear the team here

likes to hire former players as coaches? Did we get an opening recently?

Nah, its too soon for Andrius. I am bummed he got traded and dumped like a sack of moldy tangerines, especially for as hard as he worked to get that opportunity. Hopefully he is able to sign with another team here or in Europe shortly.

by Pinker on Dec 10, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions