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Georgetown vs. Syracuse Ticket Fiasco-Fest 2011

Yesterday I posted the news about Georgetown's shady business for the Syracuse game in DC and their lack of available tickets for non-GU folks. You were unamused, to say the least.

You were also very motivated. A lot of folks got to work figuring out how go about circumventing the system. Let's get up to speed.

First of all, retroactive credit is due to SJ who actually noted the issue last week. I should probably start reading what you lunatics write. Also let's give the Otto's Army blog due credit for their hard work on the matter.

We need to do this FOX News-style and be fair and balanced. I received a stern email from Hoya fan Larry who wanted to correct the erroneous facts in the original post. Correct away!

As your paper accurately noted in passing no "individual" tickets on public sale for this game. But anyone can purchase tickets. Just need to buy a mini plan.  Your ticket office, of course, has the standard Big East allotment to sell or distribute for this game.  From our end, the Hoop Club Board and the Ticket Office decided to leverage this game the same way as the Duke game last year.  It is working.  Please feel free to direct anyone to me who would like to attend this game. No GU Alum or fan can purchase individual tickets either -- need to buy a mini plan. I would be more than happy to provide the opportunity for local Orange fans to attend this game.  They simply would need to buy a mini-plan (or be placed on the "waiting list").  I personally arranged for a dozen or more such sales last year. Local Duke fans -- unlike "Cuse robots -- were civilized hoops fans and without complaint purchased mini plans.  They were this treated not only to watching the Hoyas trash the Blue Devils -- but to trash Villanova and 4 other opponents as well.  Here is the web site to purchase the weekend mini-plan: http://www.guhoyas.com/tickets/m-baskbl-tickets.html
First, I take offense at being referred to as a "paper." How 1998.

Second, I'm still not quite sure why it's so acceptable to force visiting fans to buy mini-plans. We don't give a crap about watching Georgetown play South Florida or Seton Hall or whoever else. What sicko wants to watch that, let alone spend money on it?

I assure you, you are doing us no favors by offering us a "mini-plan." It's a shady gimmick to drive away opposing fans from attending the games or milk them for more money than they should have to pay, plain and simple. Dress it up however you like, won't change that fact.

(Not saying Syracuse is above this, just saying Syracuse sure ain't doing it for the Georgetown game, cause, well, we ain't scurred of losing home-court advantage in our building)

Not to mention the fact that this is all well and good but, apparently, there are no tickets left for the game. If you've already done the $25 donor tricker, good on you. If not, you're either going to have to wait until Syracuse unlocks its tickets or start hitting the scalper sites up.

Here's some good news if you ended up buying one of the packages but don't know what to do with those extra tix. The DC Alumni Group has some particularly-strong relationships with the other local Big East alumni groups and would be happy to work with you on making an exchange. Make it known below if you're interested.

And remember, just in case you can't get into the Verizon Center, it doesn't mean you can't hang out outside and celebrate after the game.


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Maybe it's me

But I have a hard time criticizing any program that decides that (a) minimizing the number of opposition fans in the arena is more important than profiting from their attendance; or (b) what the heck, if they are willing to give us profit, let’s see if they will give us MORE profit. That is what we call… business. It is supply and demand too.

Look, I grew up on the Syracuse-Georgetown battles of the 1980’s. That was real. Real animosity between the players and coaches.

This is manufactured. If it applies to G’town fans too, what is the problem? They are making their fans purchase packages, rather than just cherry pick desired games. If we played Nebraska in football in 2014 in the Dome—a notoriously well traveling fanbase—we would do exactly the same thing. A “red” package of Nebraska, Lville, and Colgate. These things are inevitable.

by ezcuse on Jan 5, 2011 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

I like the capitalist angle

buy mini-plan, attend Cuse game, sell remaining tickets individually to Hoya opposition.

by Menotti on Jan 5, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I kind of agree

Them doing this isn’t shocking. We used to do it all the time for football – you’d have to buy tickets for the crappy games in order to get one for the Miami game, for example. It’s different…but similar.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Jan 5, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

This doesn't really bother me...

I don’t really think they are wrong for trying to maximize revenue. I am surprised it took them this long to squeeze us. If they could do this every game they would, but they can’t, Syracuse extremely strong fan base allows them to sell out. But they can only get 11,000 announced for last weekend. Announced.

I do think it was kind of dirty pool to post a public sale date then pull tickets back. But thats really just a minor outrage. I don’t mind giving $25 for 8 tickets.

by SJ on Jan 5, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree

It’s not like they didn’t make tickets available, it’s just that they made them a little more inconvenient. At the same time, they made them a little more inconvenient for their students as well. Syracuse travels well, especially in D.C, why not try to gray-out the Verizon center? I really don’t see this as some injustice, merely an inconvenience, especially since all the information was out there, as long as you were willing to look for it. Seriously, this information has been out there since October. As an intrepid ’Cuse fan living in D.C, I approached my friends with this deal then because I was anxious about tickets to a well sought-out game.

Ooo yea that's hot.

by Scoopette on Jan 5, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

If I were 12

I’d say:
lulz larry, u mad??!!111

Fuck it. I’d still say it at 37.

by Jeepers44 on Jan 5, 2011 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

Why would I buy a packet?

I dont want to watch GTown unless they are losing to Cuse.

by ryanwk628 on Jan 5, 2011 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

Remember when JFlynn had that monster dunk 'The RAC'......

I was at that game and we absolutely took over that building. I felt like I was in the dome….I freakin lost my voice at that game….next year, you could only buy that matchup as a package…..HA!

I don’t blame dem hoyas one bit…..us ORANGE tend to TAKEOVA!!!!

by TonyStarks315 on Jan 5, 2011 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

Um...

It only took the GU Alum I know 20 seconds to order single game tickets for me with no ‘mini-plan’ required. I call BS on that point.

by punter on Jan 5, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Individual tickets for that game were barred from non GU students and alum

So, not surprised your GU friend had no problem getting tickets. Try getting them as a visiting fan.

See the problem?

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Jan 6, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

What to do...

I have plane tickets and a hotel room already booked for the weekend and I just need the game tickets. Does anyone want to go in on group seats or have any other great ideas? Damn Hoyas

by wick4su on Jan 5, 2011 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

Robot?!?!

I am an android my good sir, and I take great ambivalence towards your comment.

by Pinker on Jan 5, 2011 7:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Ticket Package

If your looking to get the ticket package, wait until after the WVU game, so it will drop another 25 dollars. Its questionable because I have a hard time seeing uppers go for 75 dollars a pop as the week approaches and who know how much of that your going to be able to get back through selling the tickets when your out of town.

In general, as games approach people want to be able to unload their supply before the game. Verizon Center /DC has some pretty nasty laws for reselling tickets if the decide to enforce them (they generally don’t).

However if you really feel you need to lock in uppers @ 75 a pop (assuming it drops after saturdays game) then go ahead. Who knows maybe it drops another 25 after the next weekend game. Its all a educated guess at this point.

by CapitalOrange on Jan 5, 2011 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

These aren't the droids you're looking for

cuserobot

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Jan 5, 2011 7:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That's an actual robot used by the Syracuse police, FWIW

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Jan 5, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

JAHAHAHAHA!

I can even see the kids caption now:

“duuuuuuude. I could totaly make a bong out o that”

by Pinker on Jan 6, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Did I not hear that this game was supposed to be a Gray-out?

And Georgetown Gray is in honor of the Confederates. So by that logic, we’ll be seeing people waiving Confederate flags and singing “Dixie” and being racists?

by adselver15 on Jan 5, 2011 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Hoya fan Larry

This mutt Larry from Georgetown? I want his head on a stick. He should be grateful Syracuse fans buy their tickets. Obviously their own fan “base” could care less.

by Rawred44 on Jan 5, 2011 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

what the hell

What kind of retarded business model is this? I want to make it more difficult for people to spend money on my school. Must have a group to buy tickets? And how is it they are all already sold out? I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of scalping for this one. Eff you Georgetown, you’re idiots.

by Pingl000 on Jan 6, 2011 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

Guys, Relax, the tickets will go onsale the week of the game. (I THINK lol)

Rutgers pulled this same stunt last year after the great Orange invasion of 2009. They only let you buy the Cuse game if you bought the Mini plan with 5 other BS games.

Rest assured the week before the game, they made them available without the package. The school is trying to be smart, package a high demand game with a bunch of low demand games. But they arent stupid, if there a bunch of seats available, they will put them on sale the week of the game. They’re not going to eat those seats.

Just have patience.

by OrangeinJersey on Jan 6, 2011 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

tickets

amazing that it’s sold out but tickets are going on sale to students week of Jan 17 I believe…as for the mini-plan, if tickets are $100 for four games (boo, only upper deck seats), but $100 is what you will probably spend to watch the cuse game if you bought tickets solo. this way you can sell the extra games on the mini plan. go orange

by SyraCutie on Jan 6, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

We travel well...

I can’t say I’m surprised…‘Cuse fans travel well and have a lot of alum in the DC area. It’s just like when any game at MSG or the RAC or Dunkin Donuts Center quickly becomes a home game. My sister went to Seton Hall, and she went to get us tickets to the game this weekend but they were sold out. She said to me, “I don’t understand it, there are usually thousands of empty seats every game.” To which I replied, “Yeah, it’s sold out because it’s going to be another Syracuse home game. It wasn’t the SHU fans buying tix, it was ’Cuse.”

Same deal here, but SHU would rather fill the stands with opposing fans than have empty seats. I have a sneaky feeling there will still be a nice smattering of orange in DC come game day.

by ArchieArchbold on Jan 6, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Should be a nice turnout for the SHU game this saturday.....Saturday, nooner, students home on break

that was the same recipe for disaster at the RAC two years ago. This could be uglier since Pru Center is a lot easier to get to from Manhattan

by OrangeinJersey on Jan 6, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too,

as long as it includes some Sudoku and the daily bridge hand!

by voteprime on Jan 6, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

and the jumble

I kick ass at jumbles

I just wanna tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.

by MrPlow99 on Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of takeovers

The Orange takeover at USF in Tampa couple years ago was also quite epic. Least half the crowd in that little arena.

by goober112 on Jan 6, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

As a Gtown alum and miniplan ticket holder, your tears are so tasty..

booohooo the 8 million people Syracuse accepts into its school every year as part of its admission “standards” won’t be able to get tickets.

I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 6, 2011 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

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by ryanwk628 on Jan 6, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

1/14 update

For 25 years the DC and Baltimore alumni clubs have received and distributed huge blocks of tickets to SU alumni and their friends. This year, like everyone else, we are being jerked around—first we were told we would know about our tickets by 1/03, then we were put off further.

We have already complained, throught channels—and I was contemplating writing to ESPN, SI, and whatever network broadcasts the game to let them know what’s going on.

However, I spoke to a friend of mine, and he explained that MD does essentially the same thing. I am told that we will be getting tickets (soon!) but some people do like to be able to make their plans in advance. I mean, it would be embarrasing to tell your sister you couldn’t make it to her wedding because of the SU v GT game, and then not get tickets to the game!

It seems like there should be some kind of NCAA rule about making a certain percentage of tickets available to a team’s opponents. This BS about ticket packages—and it exists in every sport at just about every level—is abusive, especially when the team is already getting a break by usin a public venue for the event!

Joe H.
Stevensville, MD

by joeboe2001 on Jan 14, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

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