Ryan Nassib: Next Great Syracuse Gunslinger Or Just A Placeholder
R.J. Anderson, Troy Nunes, Perry Patterson, Joe Fields, Andrew Robinson, Cameron Dantley, Greg Paulus, Ryan Nassib
These are the many Syracuse quarterbacks who have stood behind center since Donovan McNabb. Only Patterson could say he was the undisputed No. 1 quarterback for more than one consecutive season. After '07, we thought Andrew Robinson was on his way to doing the same. Instead, he spent his senior year on the special teams unit. Cam Dantley and Greg Paulus each took a turn for a season before handing the ball off to Ryan Nassib in 2010.
With two season left, Nassib has the chance to be Syracuse's starting quarterback for three consecutive seasons. It's the kind of stability that Orange fans have been waiting for since that McNabb guy left for the NFL.
Question is...by the time he's a senior, will he still be the starter?
Heading into the Pinstripe Bowl, you wouldn't have been blamed for thinking Nassib might not be "the guy." The question was, was Nassib not able to handle it, was it his offensive line or was it just the play-calling. By the time the Pinstripe was over, everyone seems on board with the idea of Ryan leading the charge for years to come. If Nassib is good enough to show the moments of brilliance he had in 2010, how good could he be by 2012 with another season under his belt?
Then again...John Kinder and Jonny Miller didn't come here to hold clipboards for three years, did they? Word on the street is that Kinder impressed with his arm and his speed. Meanwhile, Miller was recruited because he has a cannon attached to his shoulder and he seems to have worked out the kinks that plagued him in camp. If Nassib plays out his career as the starter, Kinder will have one year of eligibility left by then, Miller two. It's fairly common, but that doesn't mean they're going to accept it.
And then there's Terrel Hunt, who's specifically coming to Syracuse to play quarterback. The young man is looking at a lot of time on the pine if the current situation holds. Again, it happens all the time. But is he going to sit idly by with everyone else?
(Hey, what about Charley Loeb? Well...Charley looks good, right? Ridiculously-good. That's what's important.)
The key, it seems, for Nassib to keep his job, is going to be two-fold. How does he improve his decision-making and how does he improve his proficiency.
The first part is self-explanatory. At times, Nassib's decision-making was suspect and that's putting it lightly. A lot of that had to do with his offensive line breaking down quickly and it didn't help that he was never able to drop back into shotgun. But the fact remains, when that does happen and he needs to act quick, Nassib's going to have to make better decisions. That should come with experience, but, that's what we thought about Andrew Robinson too.
The second part is revealed in the quarterback numbers during the Doug Marrone Era. We only have two QBs to go off of but they reveal a lot.
Nassib broke a Syracuse record this season with 358 attempts. That obliterated the previous record of 310. Nassib also broke a Cuse record with 202 completions. The record he beat? Greg Paulus', who threw 193 completions in '09.
In other words, Doug Marrone quarterbacks are going to pass. A lot. More than quarterbacks have ever passed the football at Syracuse University before. And if Ryan Nassib is going to keep his spot atop PassingFancy Hill, he's going to have to complete more of them. Nassib's completion percentage in 2010 was 56.4%. Greg Paulus' percentage was 67.7%. Remember how much Doug Marrone liked that about Paulus? He's always going to love that and he's always going to demand it.
We know Kinder and Miller have arms (duh, Sean, of course they have arms). But do they have accuracy? If so, Nassib better watch his back.
True, Ryan didn't get a lot of help from his receivers. They dropped more passes than I can remember. But they'll be improving in 2011. Especially if Marcus Sales keeps this up. Sales-Chew-Lemon is going to be a formidable trio and that's not even including the young guns on their way up. The drops should go away and then its the QBs problem when something goes wrong.
So will Ryan Nassib be the starter in 2011? Probably? I think we have to assume that until something happens to tell us otherwise. How bout 2012? Hard to say at the moment. Lots of variables ahead. In the meantime however, it's nice to see a Syracuse quarterback with the possibility of being a three-year starter. It doesn't happen often.
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I've only been to a couple practices
so I’m not really going to judge how good the young guys are, but it’s hard to imagine Ryan Nassib will be good enough to continue to hold down this starting spot.
by Jameson_Fleming on Jan 12, 2011 9:09 AM EST reply actions
You nailed the top issues...
1) Pass protection: we need some. By far our biggest problem in 2010 (special teams excepted).
2) Dropped passes: somewhat improved over 2009, especially considering the passes were no longer softballs, but simply not up to D1 standards yet.
I’m nowhere near as worked up about who is taking snaps as I am about setting up the QB for success by addressing the items above.
by Skortchaser on Jan 12, 2011 9:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more
Pass protection is a major concern. Better athletes might cure that. Dropped passes are just ridiculous, but maybe we saw the future of the offense with the bowl game.
They left the RB in on passing situations more for extra blocking, and using Sales over Lemondrops seemed to make a HUGE difference.
I am not one to write of Nassib yet.
Go Orange(men)!
Feel sorry for Loeb
He is obviously our #2 guy, but is consistently overlooked to Kinder and Miller.
I dont think Nassib is that bad of a QB. With a bowl win and a winning season under his belt, hes going to have to show up drunk to lose his starting spot to anyone.
I would however like to see more QBs take snaps this year, with plays and packages designed just for them that they can run.
We all consider HCDM our (hopefully) long-term coach
so this situation could really give us an insight into how he plans to run the program, long-term. You can see in Happy Valley recently how instability with the QB position, with good young players available, can blow up and lead to transfers and losses. Does HCDM value that kind of rare multi-year continuity at QB? Or is he a strictly “play the best man/hot hand” coach?
My guess is that he has a vision for our offense that requires more than just a QB with good physical abilities. He needs someone who understands his concepts of his offense and the goals of the offense. I can’t see him giving Nassib the job next year, then benching him for his senior year with 2 years of starting under his belt. If a change is made, and one of the more physically gifted younger guys gets the nod, I think it happens this off season. If Nassib wins (and keeps) the starting job this spring and into next fall, he’ll be our QB through 2012.
You nailed it!
Like the Catalina Wine Mixer, you really nailed this one!
That’s exactly one of the more intriguing story lines to follow through the offseason and into next year, but it’s a welcome change of conversation:
The G-Rob Era Conversation
If our team hadn’t gone out winners this year, we’d lean back on “Well, HCDM is establishing standards and processes and recruiting better talent.” The first guy to get the finger pointed to him would be Nassib: “He can’t handle it, he’s not good enough, when is he getting yanked?” We would throw a boat load of hope into the next guy stepping in, convincing ourselves he’s the big answer we’ve all been waiting for, then at the first sign of mediocrity we would feel THAT much more deflated and hopeless.
The HCDM Era Conversation
Now that Nassib led the team to a winning season (albeit with asterisks attached, i.e. 2 FCS opponents), and especially with his excellent performance in the Pinstripe Bowl (albeit against a very weak defense), our conversation will be, “Who can usurp Ryan Nassib?” If they don’t win as many games or make a bowl game next year, the conversation will be, “We have too many young guys that need a year or two under their belts,” and, “Our schedule was remarkably tougher this year, but we’re setting ourselves up for long-term success.”
by TheRenegadePumpkin on Jan 12, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
And this whole discussion doesnt rule out....
Injuries…..QBs get injured and replaced with a dizzying pace it feels like. Im glad we have a lot of backup for Nassib.
Wasnt there a Buffalo game this year where both the starter and 2nd string got injured in the same game?
Unless our O-Line improves drastically, its more and more of a possibility. He took some pretty hard hits this past year. Real tooth rattlers.
I think if a couple of those backup QBs were smart they would become TEs or Wideouts for a season to get some time on the field.
I think for now
The job is Nassib’s to lose. If someone beats him out for it, then so be it – it’s a tough pill for Nassib, sure, but it might better the team. But if he’s able to hold off all challengers and remain the #1, well, I’m sure we’d be all right with that.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
QB will be wide open in camp.
I say it’s a four man race between Broyld, Kinder, Miller, and Nassib. Hunt better like the idea of changing positions if he doesn’t want to be backup QB, that or transferring. And RGLCL can finally realize his true calling of being the 3rd string quarterback and bagging every piece of ass that he can.
I think Broyld
is the dark horse in this race. At least from the film I’ve watched he looks pretty damn impressive.
Syracuse '13
by OrangeCrush13 on Jan 12, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I gotta believe
Broyld will change positions before Hunt. I see no way Broyld sees the field as a QB this season. He either changes position and sees some time at LB or he redshirts with a chance to get on the field as a QB in 2012.
I'm ALREADY excited
about next season?! Anyone with me on that?
It's Nassib's Job to Lose
Marrone has been steadfast in sticking with QBs – in the middle of ’09 when Paulus was throwing more INTS than Carson Palmer he stuck with him. When Nassib struggled at the end of this year – he stuck with him. At the start of spring ball – and unless something weird happens – fall Camp, Nassib will be No. 1 and someone will have to unseat him.
Loeb most likely isn’t the answer – he’s destined for a Keith Downing career. Keep working in class Chuck. What will be interesting is if Kinder starts to get worked into some packages like Nassib was as a RF. That will tell us what DM thinks about his future.
Ryan needs to improve his touch, accuracy and decision making – but he’s got 10 times the arm of Andrew Robinson and a decent season under his belt. Next year he’ll have better WRs and a more experienced line, so the excuses will be gone, but like it or not, Ryan is going to have to play his way out of the line up.
Without seeing the other guys in action there’s no way to tell what we’ve got, but I’d be surprised if barring injury, Nassib didn’t start all 12 games next year.
Miller was recruited because he has a cannon attached to his shoulder
Hoping Mike Borkowski will take this and run with it….
by stumpycuse on Jan 12, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I hope they don't bench him for that dick J.D. McCoy
by WRT on Jan 12, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I have to say I like how Nassib showed up in the bowl game. Saying that I really don’t have that much faith in him after going to every home game. Blame the line, blame the receivers, blame whoever. Fact of the matter is there were a lot of passes into the dirt or out of bounds at the end of the year. My question is would Nassib have looked so good against another defense, or on a field where the secondary were not falling down on all the plays?
Factor in this as well. If he is our go to guy for the next two years why are we going to have six QB’s on the roster next year… Can’t be because we found our answer.
Hunt
Hunt is a pretty nice safety from what I have read. I would imagine he ends up there. Broyld will redshirt and Nassib, Kinder and Miller fight it out. I cannot imagine Kinder and Miller both staying here to be backups or third string. Miller was offered a scholly from Wisconsin, that has to say something of his abilities. If his shoulder is better he could be the dark horse, imo. Either way it is going to be exciting to see all the “new” guys playing next year.
Not everyone has ARMS, Sean.
'Cuse 2010, Michigan 2012
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Greg Paulus sure didn't
(I joke, I joke, I actually liked the kid – but his arm strength was minimal at best).
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
You missed 1 guy...
You missed 1 guy in your list of QB’s since Donovan and that was the incomparable Madei Williams who actually backed up Donovan and split time with Nunes in his freshman year.

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