Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: NFL Players Ready To Welcome Gay Teammate

Sorry Charley, Looks Like Ryan Nassib Is Legit

via media.syracuse.com

I'm working under the assumption that Jonny Miller is being redshirted.

I know we need three QBs for depth's sake but I kinda wish we could redshirt John Kinder as well.

As for Charley Loeb, I'm not worried about him. He's destined to be a captain of industry no matter he ends up doing. Such is life for the ridiculously good-looking.

I say all this because I'm thinking the same thing you're thinking...Ryan Nassib might be The Guy for a very long time.

It's something that Syracuse fans have forgotten that they have spent the last decade searching for. The heir to Donovan McNabb's Throne.

Since McNabb, we've had a revolving door of QBs, none of whom have even come close to sniffing Donny's jockstrap. It's a pretty high bar to try and reach, to be fair. But in the ten seasons since McNabb took his talents to the NFL, the Orange have lacked stability and success at the most important position on the field.

And so, we turn to you Ryan Nassib. He who threw five touchdowns, a Syracuse school record, against Maine this weekend. Yes, it was Maine...I think we're all in agreement on the level of opponent.  But still, you gotta actually do the work to throw that many scores and Nassib proved himself capable. Could you ever see Greg Paulus throwing for five touchdowns in a game? Probably not.

So it's more than slightly ironic that it was on Yom Kippur that Nassib had his big game. It was the best single-game performance by a Syracuse QB since Yom Kippur 2007.

Back then it was Andrew Robinson, who had just put together a 423 yard, 4 TD performance in Syracuse's 38-35 upset over ranked Louisville.Robinson earned the highest honor attainable for a Syracuse athlete on that day...I briefly renamed the site after him.

At the time the win signaled that Syracuse was not dead in the water. Moreso, it signaled the rise of Andrew Robinson. With a two seasons ahead of him, this sophomore was about to rewrite record books. He was going to take his rightful place on Donovan's Throne and make it into his own.

Two years later Andrew Robinson was a special teams tackler and fourteenth-string tight end.

This isn't to say that Ryan Nassib will end up the same way. By all accounts he's got the gifts, the brains and  his head coach's faith. But there was a time when we thought the same thing about Robinson.

The Ryan Nassib Era has kicked off pretty great. A 2-1 record, about to make it 3-1. He's already shattering SU records and has two years ahead of him to shatter a ton more. Syracuse fans are excited about the possibilities. We're all just hoping he follows through.

Except Charley Loeb. There's probably a ridiculously good-looking part of him that doesn't. But that's understandable.

Comment 15 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

While it was Maine

The 4-TD performances by SU QBs were against a similar cast of downtrodden. Don McPherson was against… Colgate. A lot of Rutgers thrown in there… the 20th Century Rutgers that could not beat anyone.

We still have a long way to go, but Nassib makes some nice throws. We just need to prevent him from getting shellshocked when some team destroys our OL and him. One of those October games will get ugly.

by ezcuse on Sep 20, 2010 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

The other thing with Nassib is consistency

Wasn’t given many chances last year, but did well overall. I remember a lot more dropped balls by WRs (still a problem this year) then poorly thrown balls.

This season, the level of opposition hasn’t been great, but he has played above the lesser talent and with the better talent.

@ Washington was a bad game but Nassib managed the game quite well. Unlike our PGQB last year, he is limiting mistakes, both in turn overs and incompletions.

The real test will come against the BE defenses….I guess, but realistically this team is quickly becomeing a pass first team, as the running game is going absolutely NO WHERE to date.

by JonnyNYC on Sep 20, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I tweeted [twote?] this earlier, with him being a redshirt sophmore with a little luck

And good coaching by Hackett, Nassib has the potential to be a solid, if not excellent, starter for us for 2 more years. He has more than a few kinks to work out though, but I wouldn’t worry too much about him.

With a better OLine that can hold up in pass-defense against better opponents, Nassib has the physical tools [cannon arm, good feet] to do more than just ok for us.

by goober112 on Sep 20, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Good point on Robinson...

…and guys like RJ Anderson sucked us all in before too. Don’t forget, RJ led us to a 10-2 record before not following through like we thought he would. College QB’s go that way, with spikes of production as highlights in a sea of mediocrity. What makes me hopeful, even if there is little empirical evidence to back it up at this point, is that Nassib is in a better position than anyone since McNabb because of coaching. Robinson was in Greggers system…can we blame him for not flourishing? RJ was here during the tail-end of Coach P’s run (and while Coach P will always have a place in my heart, he was no offensive genius). HCDM is an offensive mind, an innovative one (hopefully) at that. He is more invested in the development of the QB than most his predecessors, something I hope will prove fruitful to Nassib as his career develops.

by Sadler1 on Sep 20, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

To build on this

They also had RJ and Nunes trying to play in an option type system, and both were not built for that. Marrone uses more of a pro-style offense, and Nassib is a pro-style quarterback. He was great against Maine (even though it’s “only” Maine), but he looked good against Akron and Washington too (for the most part). Also, in what reps he had last year, he also looked solid. He has good feet in the pocket, a strong and accurate arm, and he seems to be a good size. The more experience he gets, the better he will hopefully get. As long as our offensive line can keep him upright, I think he has a great chance to be more than a “flash-in-the-pan” success at QB.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Sep 20, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about G-Rob's offense?

What do we describe that as? West Coast offenses are usually productive. Given A-Rob’s flourishing in Germany (last we heard), I guess we have to call it an East Europe Offense.

I know the scoring output was generally modeled after soccer scores.

by ezcuse on Sep 20, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

Systems don’t matter when the head coach is generally shitty.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Sep 20, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

RJ

He was NEVER a good QB. That season he threw for a whopping 1100 yards and 5 TDs against 2 INTs in 2001 in split time with Nunes. But he didn’t throw a very catchable ball (mostly bullets that bounced off receivers hands) and as such his completion % was somewhere near 50%. Those are all very average numbers. People jumped on the RJ bandwagon simply because he wasn’t Troy and had a cannon for an arm. Throw in the fact that he was surrounded by a veteran offensive unit with a couple of studs in the backfield (Mungro and Johnson) and had a defense that was stacked anchored by some guy named Freeney. Sure, it takes a QB to lead the offense, but I’m not sure there’s a player in SU Football history that benefitted more from being in the right place at the right time than RJ. Which explains why he went straight back to sucking in 2002.

Anyways, as far as comparisons go, I agree with you that it is too soon to make a full judgement on Nassib, but he’s head and shoulders above RJ so far. We’ll have a better idea after he manages his first few BE games. Given what he has to work with, I’m very impressed with him so far, and I honestly believe he will eventually prove be a great QB. This season and the next 2 following.

GO ORANGE

by bloodyyank44 on Sep 20, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember an 'RJ'

just Rrrrobin. /coach p’d

It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.

by Girardi Party on Sep 20, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Sep 20, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll say this for young ryan..

week 1 he was throwing darts at his receivers. now he’s putting some touch on the ball he really showed some improvement going into this colgate game. i know it was maine but he was still making the throws on the MONEY and thats something we can be excited about. He’s got some good chemistry going with Van Chew and Lemon and if the O-Line can ever learn to block he’ll really get a chance to make some plays.

Visit The Cuse Connection. The Newest Syracuse University Athletics Blog at http://orangehatblog.blogspot.com

by orngfan on Sep 20, 2010 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I’ll agree with you here. he was hitting receivers in stride and had much fewer passes that were underthrown/overthrown/thrown behind his receivers. Sometimes i think Lemon has bricks for hands since i saw him drop two perfectly thrown passes. Prove looked very impressive that game, hopefully he can continue to develop into a reliable pass-catching TE. The other thing I like about Nassib is his mobility. He’s no Pat White but the kid can take off and make something out of nothing.

"Stats are for losers" - Scott Shafer

by The Polish Punch on Sep 20, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

With regards to ARob

Even in his career-best performances, he always seemed to be jacked up and ready to throw for 1000 yards if he had to. At his worst, he was visibly shaking or had that wild-eyed look (which, considering the offensive line he was behind, is easily acceptable). I really liked the guy, and his dedication to helping the team and toughness are the model for every player to follow, but he wasn’t quite it as a QB. He need to be able to calm himself down, which he wasn’t able to do.

I also have to point out that his best performances came courtesy of Mike Williams and Taj Smith. I’m not trying to cheat ARob out of his achievements, but he had a lot more to work with from the WRs that year than Nassib does now.

GO ORANGE

by bloodyyank44 on Sep 20, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

WR's

Reading your referece to Mike Williams and Taj Smith, could you imagine Nassib with Mike Williams, Taj Smith, and Van Chew? That would be a hell of an offense.

by KyleMcintoshStiffarm on Sep 20, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to SB Nation's Syracuse football, basketball & lacrosse blog.

FanPosts

FanPosts

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Best post I've read on tv money yet
Dwight Freeney Moving to OLB
Chandler Jones signs his first contract with Pats
"Florida State Killing the ACC"
Aaron Weaver signed by the Chiefs
Scoop to participate in the Knicks' first pre-draft workout
More Gloria Allred Shenanigans
We Really Do Hate Greg Robinson...
Blogging Class Videos Now Available
Taking my talents to WordPress

+ New FanShot All FanShots >


Managers

181432_10150419917295241_697840240_17208169_5038380_n_small Sean Keeley

Editors

Hotdogangry_small Hoya Suxa

181959_1884051901099_1235420154_2201555_5066342_n_small Dan Lyons

Authors

Dome_small_small ShariCuse

Bleedingorangelogo_small FeloniousPhunk

Carmelo JohnCassillo

309758_236243686430221_100001337742137_597711_1978115663_n_small Apregs

Me_small Matt McClusky