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Delone Carter Returns, Sorry Akron

via media.syracuse.com

When I saw Dave Rahme was reporting that the "threat of lightning" was going to have an effect on Syracuse Football practice, I just assumed that was Delone Carter's new nickname.  It's not, but if we're all in agreement I'm fine with instituting that.

Regardless, Delone Carter and his ginormous arm muscles are back.  And as far as I can tell, Mr. Carter is in peak condition and already re-assuming his place as top dog on the RB depth chart.

Carter, whose reinstatement to SU was announced Monday at the team's media day, was dressed in practice shorts and jersey, like his teammates. He took part in calisthenics but didn't participate right away when the team broke into position groups for drills. Later, though, when the team was running plays he was with the first-string offense.

Well, co-top dog, I guess. HCDM is doing what HCDM does, saying Carter doesn't have a spot on the depth chart yet, but I think we can all be boys and girls here and say he'll be right back where he left off in no time.

It's a double-whammy for the city of Akron.  Not only did Delone leave his hometown to return to Syracuse but the next time he returns, it will be to completely decimate their football team.  Not a great couple weeks for Akron.

Carter actually rushed back to campus today after sending the good news of his return yesterday.  After practice, he spoke with reporters.  As for where he is physically, he says he's an 8 out of 10 at the moment. He seems extremely regretful over the whole incident, as you might imagine.  He even says that he wasn't sure if he'd ever get the chance to play for SU again.

Interestingly, he also dismissed the rumor that circulated last season that he was considering leaving early for the NFL.  Carter called it an "internet rumor," which makes this awkward considering it was Doug Marrone who was the one telling people about it.

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I'm just glad

That we’ll have the “Threat of Lightning” in our backfield this year.

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by kotite4ever on Aug 10, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Threat of Lightning.

I fully support it. Do we need a formal vote? Or can you use an executive order and “make it so”?

by NOLACuse on Aug 10, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

So, I'm totally fine with Carter being back and all...

but what is his punishment from the team/university? There must be something right? Or is this HCDM’s “one” from the Chancellor? Also, where does he stand legally? What the hell is going on? It’s like all of a sudden everything just disappeared and he’s good to go again. Which, again, is totally fine by me. I just hope it stays this way.

by DMF on Aug 10, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously?

the dude was suspended from school for 4 months, missed all of spring practice and summer workouts…

by noro on Aug 11, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Being suspended from summer school and missing spring practice/summer workouts seems light for legal troubles at Syracuse and for the football team under HCDM. Guys have been booted from the team for far less. Again, no complaints from me, I’m just surprised and wondering if there is more to come.

by DMF on Aug 11, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody gets booted for a first offense.

All the players that were removed had been in trouble before.
 

by DanteAmore on Aug 11, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was also suspended for part of spring semester.

I suspect he didn’t pass any of his spring classes. And since he was suspended over the summer he couldn’t take them again. So he is set back a semester.

by NOLACuse on Aug 11, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

My guess

he missed out on credits for last semester that he’ll have to make up.

And he’s probably on some kind of double not-so-secret probation with the judicial board.

Plus all the missed time on the practice field, weight room, facilities, etc…I’m willing to bet he’s served a fair amount altogether.

I agree it seems light all things considered but I have a feeling there’s more to it than just missed practices.

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by Sean Keeley on Aug 11, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't

There also a stipulation of some community service that he had to do before being able to re-apply?

by Trapped_In_ACC_Hell on Aug 11, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

200 hours of community service

plus Marrone said Carter was punished internally.
 
I hope that doesn’t mean they went all the way up with a red hot poker.

by DanteAmore on Aug 11, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got in a fight. Really so what?

I’d be one thing if he punched a kid in a bar randomly, but that is not the case.

At best this situation is vague and I for one am still of the opinion that throwing snowballs at moving vehicles is an offense in itself. To me it’s not even clear what was said or how things were instigated by which side.

I can totally see this as a couple drunk dudes throwing snowballs at cars, the car slows down, dudes get out of the car, but the kids talk shit thinking nothing will really happen because they are on SU campus. Something like that seems much more plausible then a bunch of dudes get our of a car and start swinging.

For any student a fight is grounds for expulsion, pending a hearing. I would think any student who is part of the scenario above gets fined and has some penalties as Orange Chuck notes below, but what else needs to happen really?

To me this isn’t a horrible act as a reflection on SU, football player or not. He did not rape anyone, he didn’t hit a women or anyone without provocation, he didn’t cheat on tests, accept money or cares from a booster, etc.

It also happened in the off-season and by comparison to other stories from Pitt, the SEC, USC right now DC3s story is a footnote nationally. So there is even less merit/need to come down extra hard.

Oh and PS – I think the simple math equation of football revenue with DC3 vs without DC3 probably was the icing on the cake.

by JonnyNYC on Aug 11, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope every dingleberry posting on syracuse.com about how Delone got preferential treatment because he was a football player with the school when it came to his reinstatement chokes on the crap they spew every chance they get. It is amazing how sometimes it can be so calm and then people have to come along and share their lack of knowledge with more people. I also hope that kid’s lawyer joins the group because we all know the only thing he is doing is laying the grounds for a lawsuit, which will probably include Syracuse for causing emotional hardship on his client for allowing DC3 back on campus or attempt to get the majority of his signing bonus if he is drafted.

Do I think HCDM is hoping DC3 is playing every game this season to due lack of depth at RB this season? Sure, it is his second year and he knows the bar is raised from last year. I do think though that knowing what we have seen of HCDM so far, that probation/punishment that DC3 is or has served would make most of us quit and probably make Mike Williams post on Facebook about how unfair it is.

I knew guys who got in fights in college where there was more damage than this and all they had to do was pay restitution costs for the damage, issue an apology to all involved and maybe miss a couple weeks of school. DC3 had to apply for reinstatement, still faces legal issues that have not been resolved yet and who knows what else. Shut the fuck up already about how he is getting away with everything and go back to your basements away from people again.

by Orange Chuck on Aug 11, 2010 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

What about William's actions?

Is he accountable at all? Or because he got punched it’s not longer relevant to what he was part of.
Trying to make this completely one sided like this is laughable.

by JonnyNYC on Aug 11, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets hope we dont see any of these moments this year

but in all honesty… the kid has been a class act for the better part of 5 years. He came back when he could have gone pro. He has never slipped up. Has no history of poor judgment outside this one incident and a good relationship with HCDM.

I also believe there are some details being left out in this whole situation. It was not a random punching but DC3 is likely not allowed to comment because of pending legal action.

by ryanwk628 on Aug 11, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

and to the special treatment people

there is no way a normal student would have EVER been prosecuted to the extend DC3 was. 9 times out of 10 DPS or the Syracuse PD would tell the people in the fight to “break it up” and to “go home and cool off.” Ive seen it with worse fights than one kid getting punched at SU. Ive seen a kid in the hospital with a bottle broken over his head who knew who hit him and wanted to press charges but the cops said “its your word against his and we dont have any other evidence. Its not worth pressing charges”

DC3 was kicked out for the remainder of the semester and the summer. He had no summer housing and had to go home. He missed the spring game his senior year and all of spring ball. He was not able to work out or use team facilities all summer.

He did not finish his spring semester because he was kicked out. He did not get to take summer classes which are essential to a student athlete for them to balance their accademic and athletic requirements.

Now he and his family are going to have to bear the cost of a civil suit which Im sure is already in motion.

All this for a first time offender with no track record.

Carter is getting it harder than any other student at SU in the same situation would. There is no way he is getting special treatment.

by ryanwk628 on Aug 11, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

And to that point - look at Mike Williams and Jimmy Freaking Clausen in terms of financial implications this has

What’s the biggest thing for DC3? A Shot at the NFL. Not only does missing out on practices and camps slow down is conditioning and cohesion with the team, this are minor issues for his talent and this team but still, the bigger deal is now he’s got a black mark on his record going into the draft.

He’s likely not a 1st round candidate, but he’s certainly a draft candidate and having to answer to these questions could easily cost him high six figures on his contract.

As noted above a similar situation among ‘common’ students would be resolved in a quieter manner, and also with significantly less long term damage to either party. You can easily see a scenario where the long term effects of this issue are going to cost DC3 much more then poor Will Snowball.

by JonnyNYC on Aug 11, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, this is unbelievable to me that people think the University gave him preferntial treatment.

Like you, I’ve seen DPS and Syracuse PD break up a fight and let everybody on their way. I’ve seen someone get it worse than this kid, for less and the cops handed out noise violations and left it at that. Judicial Services handed out a wrist slap for that same situation. DC3 got anything but preferential treatment for a situation that should have been left well enough alone.

by NOLACuse on Aug 11, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think he has served plenty – especially for something that is one man’s word against another. My point was just that Syracuse – under Chancy and HCDM – tend to lay the hammer for far less. But I agree that DC3 has been an otherwise model student-athlete so I’m sure that earned him some well-deserved credibility.

I’m just happy he’ll be suiting up this year – he’s fun to watch out there. I remember being at that crazy Wyoming game his freshman year when he blew up for 4TDs in 2OT.

by DMF on Aug 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

That game happens to be the only SU football game I’ve been to at the Dome (and is where my Twitter avatar was taken for those who happen to follow me). Crazy indeed.

by Trapped_In_ACC_Hell on Aug 11, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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