Jeremiah Masoli: Should Syracuse Pursue Him?
No one has intimated this is any form...it's merely hypothetical...and I know it's kinda late to think we could make such sweeping changes...and he's had more "misunderstandings" than five Mike Williams...and Doug Marrone might have a coronary if he came here and did anything as dumb as what he did at Oregon...and Ryan Nassib might spontaneously combust if we bring in another one-year quarterback to replace him...
But is it worth for Syracuse to take a look at Jeremiah Masoli? From, as Doug would say, a quarterbacking standpoint?
Masoli is a bizarro Greg Paulus. Since he has finished his undergrad studies and would enroll at his next school as a grad student, he would be able to play this season thanks to the same loophole that allowed Paulus to play for Cuse last year. So, the troubled, former Duck has been putting out feelers to see who's interested.
Ole Miss? Not so much. Masoli just officially got the "no thank you" from them. But as Stewart Mandel says, eventually someone is going to say yes. And when they do, they get a guy who threw for 2,147 yards, 15 touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 2009. They also get a guy with two years of D-1 starting experience under his belt and almost 4,000 passing yards and 28 touchdowns over that time. He also finished his Oregon career as the school's all-time rushing leader among quarterbacks (1,386 yards).
Of course, they also get a guy who, despite being a star player, was originally suspended for the entire 2010 season after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor burglary charge. While on suspension and needing to remain a straight arrow, Masoli was found in his car with marijuana and driving with a suspended license. He was promptly kicked off the team.
His situation might resemble Greg Paulus but his troubles make him resemble Eric Devendorf. Is Doug Marrone, the guy who has kicked players off the team for missing meetings, ready to take a waiver on someone like Masoli? I just can't believe he would. Even if he was brought in on the shortest of leashes, Masoli has already shown his inability to take that kind of threat seriously.
Still...talent is talent. All due respect to Ryan Nassib and RGL Charley Loeb but no one is putting them in the 2010 Heisman race, one that Masoli almost certainly would have been in had he kept it together.
Almost certainly, this is merely a hypothetical. But hey, so was the idea of bringing in Greg Paulus for one season before we actually did it.
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I'm always wrong about this stuff.
When Robinson wanted to bring in Colt Brennan, I didn’t think it was a good idea. He turned out to be a model citizen in Hawaii.
When there was hesitation about bringing Mike Williams back, I thought he deserved a second chance. The guy ended up being a bag of ass.
I say you make the call and bring him to campus so he can check the place out and the staff can meet him. If Marrone feels comfortable with him, give him a scholarship and put his life on lockdown. If Marrone thinks he’s going to get in knife fights down at Sadie’s Place, leave him on the trash heap.
Agree completely
Hey, worst case scenario, you bring the guy in – he’s a bum off the field – and Marrone cuts his ass. We know he’s not afraid to pull that trigger when he needs to.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
So by your own admission
You’re in favor, so the right call is to stay the hell away
"I'm going through a rough patch in my life right now. Syracuse is 0 and 3" - Adam Sandler
by bloodyyank44 on Jul 20, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If theres one guy who can straighten him out
Its Doug Marrone. I say bring him in and give him a 2nd chance, and if he doesn’t like to play by Doug’s rules, then he’s off the team. I’m not a big fan of bringing in guys who lack character, but I wasn’t a fan of bringing in Duke PGs to play QB either and it worked out ok.
Also, if Nancy wouldn’t go for Colt, not so sure she would want Massoli either.
"I'm going through a rough patch in my life right now. Syracuse is 0 and 3" - Adam Sandler
This guy will clash with HCDM. No doubt in my mind. Maybe it would be good for him, but not necessarily for our program. I think GP2 had a great impact on the culture of SU football. Masoli would be totally counter productive.
and for the same reasons we couldnt get Colt Brennan, we couldnt get Masoli anyways. Chancy Nancy would shoot it down.
I think this is spot on
Marrone is looking to build a program, not a team, year-by-year. That program seems to have discipline and character as two of its central themes. If HCDM were to bring in Masoli, a lot of players and recruits might begin wondering what it was that they were buying in to…..
"Size matters. At least in basketball." - James Arthur Boeheim
by Bernie Fine is the Man on Jul 20, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hmm
Good point – hadn’t considered that.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Uggh
going to get in knife fights down at Sadie’s Place
"Size matters. At least in basketball." - James Arthur Boeheim
by Bernie Fine is the Man on Jul 20, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions
not like paulus at all
hate to disagree keely, but aside from transferring to another school, this isn’t like the paulus situation at all- in regards to both the player’s situation and SU’s situation last year at this time
paulus is a model citizen/role model/leader of his peers, hadnt played since HS, is a native to the syracuse area, and the SU football scene was in complete dissaray and needing positive influences and positive PR.
with HCDM in place for over a year now, the team is on the up and up, we have QB’s who can play, 2 more coming in this August, and bringing in this kid will only retard their progress and cause distractions in the not so positive direction.
Situation similiarity
is just that they are both four-year graduates who will be able to play right away after transferring. That’s the similarity. Other than that, you’re right, miles apart as people.
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I think that
Masoli would avoid Syracuse because of the discipline structure. I wonder if Louisville would be willing to take a chance though?
My money is on a Big 12 school though.
was just gonna say
with his rap sheet he sounds like a perfect fit for Louisville. Man that would suck.
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by bloodyyank44 on Jul 20, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I say no to be honest.
Masoli could be the difference between a bowl game or not, and I recognize that, but I think this roster is capable of making a bowl game this year as is. I also don’t think Masoli would elevate the team to BCS heights, so what is the real gain long term? I say more will be gained by staying loyal to high-character guys and guys who want to be a part of the system. Paulus chose Duke for basketball years ago, but he came to us last year as much as Marrone reached out to him. If Masoli would be more than a one year addition, I might say give him the chance. As a one year deal though, the character flaws are too much. My vote is pass. Let’s see what our current crop of QBs have in them and let him go somewhere else. This isn’t basketball where a single transfer can turn a mediocre year into a championship run.
I'm in the no camp here
If he were coming out of an offense that had more in common with SU’s, and I thought he might put us in contention for a conference title, then maybe I’d think about. But best case is that he’s the difference between no bowl and Beef, or Beef and Pinstripes. And that’s just not worth it.
the opton qb dream
and any analysis of su football would presume, that su will never, ever have nebraska, clemson, ohio state, and michigan level of talent.yet time after time years ago, they beat some of the most famous programs in america.and yes, masoli would be the difference, in a allmost automatic bowl game bid and winning season. look what navy has been doing recently. that is why teams like oregon,wvu have gone to spread run or spread pass offense. cause the most important player on the field, if he is a superstar, ala mcpherson.graves or mcnabb, they can carry the whole team.white , of wvu, and dennis dixon of “ory-gun” are prime examples. and nobody is gonna tell me that either the ducks or wvu had the players that usc or oklahoma had! howsomever, i dont ever see marrone, a throwback to the woody hayes era, with all the nonsensical dress codes, etc, ever offering masoli a chance. tho i think he would enjoy playing for the oakland raiders. and if u think that either of the current 1#and 2# su qbs are in masolis rank as a dual threat qb, u got to be dreaming or on sike a del ic drugs,non??
I think most people here...
…would recognize that he’s more talented than whatever we have, and hopefully the guys coming in will be a little better suited to an option attack like the days of yore (as a way to level the playing field a bit). I’m curious to see if we run a little more spread this year, now that Marrone has had more time to get his guys into the system. I think people just want to stay away from him because he’s certainly earned the reputation as a troublemaker.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Nay
Won’t re-tread many of the reasons already posted. Paulus was a unique case with the home-town connection, and bringing this guy in would indicate that HCDM is building a “win now at all costs” program, which clashes completely with what he has lead everyone to believe. While Nassib undoubtedly benefited from his year as a backup, allowing Paulus to take the heat for the inevitable growing pains the program underwent in the transition from the Dark Times to the new regime, doing the same thing to him again this year would not only completely destroy any credibility he had to be a team leader next year, but it would also poison the pool for future recruits. Taking this guy on is a (risky) shortcut that doesn’t even address some of the chief issues of last year’s team (the secondary).
by Trapped_In_ACC_Hell on Jul 20, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
No
HCDM is laying the foundation of integrity, team pride, and discipline. Having Masoli would destroy the credibility of the vision of bringing Syracuse back to prominence.
by cuseindahuse on Jul 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Masoli Knows How to Win
Can’t say that about any of our current QBs, who have combined for zero starts in college. I mean, Masoli led Oregon to a Pac 10 title and the Rose Bowl game.
Also, the winning cures everything attitude has sure done wonders for our bball program over the past decade. I know that brining in Masoli will go against HCDM’s master plan for us, but isn’t winning the #1 goal with that plan? Yes, Masoli has character issues, but athletes have gotten a second chance doing much, much worse than Masoli has done.
by Maggie'sCaresAboutYourSafety on Jul 20, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
thru the air and on land"
welkomen to opton qbs. i give u navy. bowl teams now for past 7 years. beat lame ND teams past 2 years, and almost beat BUCKEYES IN THE HORSESHOW LAST YEAR! all with supposedly obselete" triple opton, with a navy qb who can actually throw off the opton like our ex su quarterbacks, mcpherson, graves, mcnabb. and i think the kid who decked the boise state wise guy, duck halfback was given a chance, turned out ok. and masoli? i just love to watch that kid play. he is ready if need be to bring it on every play ala teebow.
Fuck and No
Pardon the language, but rooting for and defending Devendorf for three years was hard enough. I like rooting for guys with character, and I am patient enough to wait another year if need be for a bowl game. Think about the long term effect, not only to our reputation, but to the development of Nassib. If he doesn’t work out next year, we have Loeb and like seven other QB’s coming into compete. But if Nassib has confidence because of the coaching staff’s trust in him, maybe he develops into our QB for the next three years. I saw enough in him to think he had the potential last year. Why kick the chair out from under him again until we know if he can hack it?
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by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 20, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Bring him in
Give him a change of scenery, since there have been so many damn issues with that Oregon program, might do him a world of good. Worst case scenario, he slips up even the tiniest bit, and we cut his ass.
Syracuse '12
anyone who votes yes
has no concept of why our program floundered under GRob and the underlying issues.
oregon halfback"
granted he lost his cool. however, the taunting and what not from a pristine" heartland of america" boise state player was in really poor taste and poor sportsmanship. and issues played a minor part in grobs demise. army has hardly any problem players on any level, marrone would love the whole program. however, they simply have not the talent to compete with even navy or usaf academys.much less anyone else. and from what i can see, ricky dobbs does have some passing talents.which is more then one can say for certain other qbs that grob recruited for a wco offence, pass dominated, and in 2 cases, ended up as tight ends ! and of course, cept for jim kelly, all the ballyhooed miami qbs were total failures in the nfl. despite being in a pro"set offense in college and sterotype pocket passers. testaverde and what ’s his name from cleveland were not future nfl hall of famers




















