A Conflict of Interest
by voteprime on Apr 5, 2010 2:09 PM EDT
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As Syracuse fans, who do we root for in the National Championship tonight?
You look at the two teams, Duke vs. Butler, and it should be obvious. You just don't root for Duke unless you went to school there (traitor! No, not you Greg Paulus), have family there, or live in the area (and that's pushing it). So we're rooting for Butler tonight, right? And look at Butler's story! The 5-seed mid-major who no one believed in but just wouldnt lose. First it was UTEP, then upset-minded Murray State. Then they chopped down the big 1-seed Syra...oh...right.
I watched Butler against Michigan State on Saturday. I hated Butler from the very beginning of the game. I'll be honest, every time I saw Matt Howard I wanted someone to punch him in the face. But by the end I felt fine. I was actually sort of excited for Butler and their story. And then I realized their next game is the finals. The team we should have beaten will be vying for the effing National Championship! No way I'm rooting for them! I want their opponent to take them to the wood shed. Make them wish they'd never even been in the Tournament to begin with. Who's that opponent again?
Oh, it's Duke. And we're back to square one.
There are other arguments for rooting against Butler. For example, if Butler wins Syracuse will forever be included in their "Cinderella" story and we will have to hear about it over and over for the next week or more. Syracuse is bound to be captured in an unflattering light for Butler's One Shining Moment. If Duke wins, this might all go away just a little faster.
But it's Duke!
So who do we root for tonight? Or is tonight finally time to give Dancing With the Stars a shot?
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I respect that
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Without a doubt Butler
If they win they would’ve knocked out the ACC champion, Big East regular season champion, and the last remaining Big 12 and Big 10 teams. They deserve it. Nobody is going to associate them winning it all to Syracuse choking. If they win, it’ll be remembered most for Duke losing in the championship game to 5-seed Butler.
Child, please
I will definitely be watching Dancing With The Stars. I cannot help but love the mediawhore that is Chad Ochocinco.
Ooo yea that's hot.
by Scoopette on Apr 5, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
me too but for two reasons...
erin andrews and nicole scherzinger… nuff said.
+1
Is it weird that I hate Duke more than any other team aside from Georgetown?
"The horse jumped over the f#@king fence."
- KV
Butler by a mile
At some point we have to realize despite the fact we could have won, Butler is really good. There’s a reason they haven’t lost in 2010. Winning the Championship would provide a measure of validation that the only team that could beat Syracuse (besides itself) was the champs. The whole Hoosiers tie-in is even interesting before it gets beaten into the ground.
Besides, the alternative is Duke.
by Doc Gross's Phones on Apr 5, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
Living in Durham, NC...
…shouldn’t be a reason to root for Duke. As another private school, Duke doesn’t have the symbiotic relationship with Durham that Syracuse and SU have. On a regular basic Duke & Durham work in spite of each other. So as a Durham resident, I’ll begrudgingly root for Butler even if that means being tortured with image from this year’s Sweet 16 for the rest of my life.
Those images won’t be as one of my first memories of SU BBall—the Keith Smart jumper. Or will they?
I believe Darth Vader said it best
“There is no conflict.”
Seriously, nobody should ever root for Duke.
Syracuse players have a lot of length.
by MrPlow99 on Apr 5, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Where's the Yoda guy?
Sure he’d love to chime in on that one.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
I suppose Butler
Aside from them beating us I have nothing against them and it would be a nice story.
That said it will still sting simply because of the way we lost. I still get instantly depressed when thinking about Wes pounding his chest after hitting the three to give us our first lead and thinking “we got this”.
Fuck, now I’m depressed again. I’m going to bed.
I picked Duke in a sweet 16 bracket
Since I don’t know where I stand, I could win some money if they win, so I’ll have to root for them.
butler
rooting against the team that knocked you out? does that make sense?
doesn’t it make more sense to root for the team that knocked you out to win it all so you can at least say “well, nobody else beat them either” or “at least we lost to the champs and not some bunch of chumps who got knocked out the next round anyway”?
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
i won't be watching
but that’s the school of thought i subscribe too. butler wins, we have an excuse and we’re just a footnote in the story. no one will focus on our loss to butler if butler is the national champs
Just posted on this same topic at Cuse Country
There are no good choices in this game. You hate for Duke to win but you can’t stand watching Butler because you keep saying “that should be us”. I’m going with Bingham Lab above and settling down for an hour of counter-terrorism action. The dirty bomb is set to go off in 15 minutes.
http://cusecountry.com
All Duke
From Syracuse but now living in Triangle. Soo easy from me to choose who to root for since I’m a big Duke fan and Butler ruined my chance to watch an final where I could watch my two favorite teams verse each other (With SU edging Duke out ofc).
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
I hate duke. I hate butler. Go cuse. Mad till november
by therealmundy on Apr 5, 2010 7:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Butler.
I don’t think our loss to them will be highlighted so much. If Butler were a 7 seed or lower, then it would be. But Butler was a 5 seed and is just as good as anyone in the country as you know.
This is the college basketball world we live in now
The best players don’t even bother to play in college anymore – they go straight to the pros, or they do the whole “one and done” thing. Carmelo Anthony is the exception to the rule on that one. Most of these guys never win it all in their one shot. Get ready for a slew of unwatchable teams like Butler over the next few years – and lots of 60-57 basketball games.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Yeah
Every shot he made against us, he’s missed tonight. He’s like a poor man’s Kevin McHale when he’s good…when he’s bad, he’s just, well, bad.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Howard
is making Rick Jackson look good.
Got to give it to Butler… they are holding Duke to a 65 point pace.
Ha!
We can say what we want about Craig Forth…but Craig Forth is a national champion!
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Sometimes the best thing you can do
is not screw up.
If Rick Jackson could simply catch a ball and pass it to someone else, we would have beaten Butler. Not asking him to make 15-footers. Not asking him to make free throws. Not asking him to dribble. Not asking him to play like he has testicles. Not asking him to go up strong and dunk. All he has to do is catch the ball… and pass it to someone else. Err…someone else on his own team. I have never been more pissed off at a Syracuse player’s performance EVER.
Duck Fook
Love how they’re allowed to hold Mack with both hands, and still get the call. Every time I watch Duke I hate them more. Especially the Rat.
That Schuyer guy
Or whatever his name is…I want to crush his face with a 2×4.
What, too violent?
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Too lenient.
You should be using some sort of metal bar.
I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch a minute of the NCAA tournament since we lost. Continuing tonight. Watching baseball.
I hate Duke
Even against Butler they are getting 80% of the calls. If an underdog playing at home cannot get the calls… what chance does ANY team have against them?
Rat face…. lol.
Could you imagine watching this game with Bobby Knight?
Butler has missed about 14 opportunities for a 3-point play (traditional way). I can just imagine him stating… so, Butler has 14 of a possible 42 points so far…. etc.
Fuck Duke.
"The horse jumped over the f#@king fence."
- KV
by TEMSON on Apr 5, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.
Did anyone else see Singler grab Hayward as he went in for the initial attempt?
The refs did
But they remembered that they’re not allowed to call fouls on Duke.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Butler shot more free throws than Duke did
The refs allowed Butler to play very physical with Duke, that is what kept the game close.
Go Orange(men)!
After watching that game
I now hate both teams. I mean, I already hated Duke, bunch of floppers and actors. However Butler played a dirty ass game that made the game borderline unwatchable.
I appreciate physical play, but that was absurd.
Go Orange(men)!
seconded
Butler played like they’ve played the entire tournament. Duke just edged them out because Butler’s shots didn’t fall tonight.
Suicide watch begins in Indianapolis once Brad Stevens jumps ship to a major school and a million dollar payday.
Butler earned my respect
If they were able to make shots, they would have put 75-80 on Duke. It’s not so much tempo as it is they just are a terrible shooting team. Wide open shots… clank. Inside layups… not even close. Rejections. 8 minute droughts. Just a really subpar offensive team.
But you don’t beat the teams that they beat, and run Duke to the wire, without having some good overall play. Amazing what can happen if you don’t turn the ball over 15-20 times. You can get 10 more shots. Only need to make half of them to have 10 more points. Why can’t our more talented players not turn the ball over?
I agree
just a well fought game. Too bad Duke bribed the refs for the key calls again.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Apr 6, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone watch one shing moment?
first off god damn them for losing Luther Vandross, and was it just me maybe I missed it idk But i did not see cuse once
I don't want to watch Dook's One Shining Moment.
Doesn’t surprise me that Kansas/Kentucky/Arizona loving CBS would leave us out.
Was thinking the same thing
I didn’t see Syracuse in there. Isn’t everyone supposed to be in there at least once? Or am I remembering wrong.
This sucks
Duke, the Yankees, and the Lakers. Could things get any worse?
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Thank god
Georgetown, The Patriots, Cowboys, Rangers (Stanley Cup), and Florida football all didn’t win.
Also add Jimmie Johnson’s 4th straight NASCAR title and yeah you got a really sucky past 12 months of sports outside of the Syracuse lacrosse title.
Considering how overmatched they were
I thought Butler did an admirable job. They hung tough and got a few stops when they needed them and really had about as good a look as you could ask for with Hayward’s shot from 15 feet—my brother and I guessed that shot was long by about an inch, tops. Duke looked like they’d pull away with about 2:30 to go and we got an exciting ending and that’s much more than I was expecting from this game. KenPom tweeted that the whole game was played with both teams within 6 points of each other… Pretty entertaining on the whole.
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
Duke is still a joke.
A cakewalk of a regular season followed by a cakewalk through the tournament… It’s not to hard to win the tourney when your first 3 rounds of opponents are absolute jokes… good thing they didn’t have to play the Big East’s #8 team, Georgetown in the national championship… they might have gotten whooped by them a second time this season…
I felt like a Survivor juror
Last night I felt like a jury member on the show Survivor: voted out too early, I must now choose to bestow fortune on either someone who betrayed me, or an obnoxious prick whom I hate.
I chose neither. There were plenty other channels.
by TheOrangeVermonter on Apr 6, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
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