Monsters Among Us
by Sean Keeley on Apr 12, 2010 8:17 PM EDT
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PrintAs Donte Greene knows all too well, try as we might to be the pristine, good-natured, feel-good fanbase that we know we can be, there's always going to be ogres in our midst that lack a certain perspective on the world.
I'd say 90% of Syracuse fans not only think Wes Johnson is making the right decision to go pro but also wishes him well in doing so. We understand the climate of college basketball and the near-guaranteed financial and lifestyle upgrade that comes with going pro.
8% of SU fans really think Wes should have stayed one more year to become the best overall player and win a title for SU before going pro but also get why he didn't. It's understandable that these folks would feel like this but it's the mindset of a college basketball fan stuck in 1994. That world doesn't exist anymore.
The other 2% is a mixture of folks who still live under the delusion that college basketball players "owe" the fans and the school something and those who, well...I don't really know what the other ones are thinking. Many of these people have Facebook accounts and voiced their displeasure over Wes' decision. Let's delve, shall we?
"should've finshied what you started"
So by that logic, shouldn't Wes have stayed at Iowa State and never come to Syracuse?
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We need to go all the way with this one. All rational arguments against these people delteted… it’s been said before and they don’t care. Although I hope Mark Kinner dies alone and in pain.
by Trapped_In_ACC_Hell on Apr 12, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
what's with our obsession as a country to label every insult as somehow rooted in the "gay"
i missed that lesson.
it’s like using that word provides some base-endorphin release, as you furiously type out your bile on the internet arguing/ abusing people who you’ve never met and never seen.
I spent a little time today responding to Joel Deitch
He and some others on that thread were being patently ridiculous. I hope Wes doesn’t take this garbage seriously.
Do we know if fans of other teams are this stupid – or I should say, that the stupid fans of other teams are this vocal? Any UK fans out there pissing on John Wall’s decision?
http://cusecountry.com
Since most of them arent posting these things on his actual page
I’m sure he wont even see it
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by Sean Keeley on Apr 12, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Because uk fans don’t know how to read
by ryanwk628 on Apr 12, 2010 11:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Don't wanna pile on the guy 'cause he's had an awful month
but I’d say Kige Ramsey is a fairly representative sample of the UK fanbase.
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Apr 13, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that really a fair comparison though?
UK kids are already getting paid, so money is a little less important in the decision making. I imagine UK fan comments would look something like this:
“It’s always about the millions! Why can’t you just be happy with the $10,000 Calipari would pay you next season!” But with more spelling errors and maybe an N-word.
I'm pretty sure
that between melo, jonny, and wes there’s been 5 total years here at syracuse.
Melo- Won a National title. Done.
Jonny-Played two (2) years here at Syracuse and almost single handily won the most epic game in school history. As well as a Sweet 16 finish. He was also one of the most class guys to come through here.
Wes-Played 2 years making other players better his first year and taking the team from unranked to #1 and a sweet 16 finish the second year. Kris Joseph was Wes’s roommate last year, and w/o wes KrisJo probably would have started this year. But without wes I doubt that KJ would have worked nearly as hard to improve as he did. Wes is also a stand up guy. One of the nicest people and he is going to graduate with a degree from SU.
What more could we ask of them.
Stupid people.
by hibachi010 on Apr 12, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The ideal scenario for the morons above
would be for Wes to come back, play in the maximum number of permissible games that would still qualify him for a medical redshirt, and then intentionally tear his ACL. Then, he comes back for one more season—in which he’d be 24!—and leads Syracuse to an undefeated season. Then, instead of going to the NBA, Wes sticks around as a graduate assistant, making only a couple thousand bucks a year, probably, but DOING THE RIGHT THING AND FINISHING WHAT HE STARTED, DAMMIT.
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Apr 13, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ten MIllion Dollars
Is actually probably less than what Johnson will make from his rookie contract. While the salary cap will not be determined for some time, here is what Jonny Flynn will make in his first four years in the league, as a #6 pick (with the last two years as a team option, which is almost a formality):
$13,905,864.
That does not include a qualifying offer the ’Wolves can make to him for his fifth season at almost $5.8 million.
One thing all of those clowns insulting Wes should remember – he wasn’t even looking at Syracuse when he first decided to transfer. Connecticut and Arkansas were his first two choices. Michigan State, Marquette, West Virginia, Pitt, Ohio State, and Villanova were on his expanded list. It’s very fortunate he even came to SU for two years.
Another one
Tyler Blomquisite
Wow man, way to be a typical college baller…just goin for the green. you really disapoint me. if thats what your mind is set on, if you stayed another year, you would be a higher pick and more garunteed money. at least be smart about it
(I hope some of these people didn’t actually attend Syracuse. Then again, it has been a while since I’ve attended. Have professors stopped caring about spelling and grammar and started accepting term papers in “textspeak”?)
Of course we should all wish he would come back. But we knew that wouldn’t happen. I’d be the one questioning his sanity if he did. Assuming he’s not a Knick (which he won’t be, thanks Isaiah Thomas!) his jersey will be right alongside the Melo, Flynn and Warrick as the only NBA jerseys I own.
garunteed
I like to think he’s just Cajun
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by Sean Keeley on Apr 12, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i cant believe that this Mark Kinner guy is dumb enough
to throw out racial slurs in the public domain.
15 seconds of google searching revealed his address, phone #, myspace page with age/pictures etc.
Punk ass cracker
should be embarrassed he’s rocking a myspace profile. Expect to see Mark Kinner on “To Catch a Predator.”
Ooo yea that's hot.
It's sad
I don’t know what delusional world these people live in, where they (and I’m only talking about the “grown-ups” who post shit like this):
a) get angry at a 19-22 year old kid for leaving school to guarantee financial security
b) feel like they are owed something
I might have felt this way when I was 16 years old, but I don’t think so, and I know there are guys that age that post here that are certainly intelligent and understand the business side of basketball. Hell, they probably understand it better than guys my age do (I’m 33), because guys my age grew up in an era where most guys DID stay in school before turning pro.
No one loved going to Syracuse more than I did, but Christ. If some guy showed up after my freshman or sophomore years and said, “Hey man, if you leave school, we can guarantee you will earn $15 million pre-tax,” how can you turn that down? I know money isn’t everything, but shit, it sure helps. Besides, you can always go back and get your degree. I understand the sentiment attached to “living the college experience.” But you have to live in the real world people, and not let your petty little whining blind you.
In summation, if you are an adult who posted something derogatory about Wes Johnson leaving early, you are either completely psychotic or you just don’t understand how the world works.
As to Wes Johnson, all you can say is, “Good luck, kid, and you’re welcome back on campus whenever the hell you like.”
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Apr 12, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I've always thought about it this way
Would all of these people, that are bashing Wes or bashed Donte Greene, do the same thing to a college kid that gets recruited by Microsoft, Google, Pfizer, ExxonMobil, etc after their sophomore year and leave school for a job with them for millions of dollars?
I highly doubt any of them would. It is just the stigma of leaving early to play sports and probably because us as fans have an emotional attachment to our team and players that some people get that way.
by GrossSuperman on Apr 13, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we
Flood these peoples walls and in boxes with hate mail?
by ryanwk628 on Apr 12, 2010 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not worth it. Even giving them their 5 seconds of fame in this post is way more than they deserve.
"The horse jumped over the f#@king fence."
- KV
AHHHHH JEEZE I AM SOOO MAD
Someone makes a decision to improve thier life , and he makes my time Worse. grrrr I AM SO ANGRY AT YOU WESLEY YOU CANT COME TO MY BIRTHDAY PARTY AND IM TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME!
obviously by now you can see im being sarcastic. These people really need to get a life, what happens if wes doesnt go and has career ending injury are these people gonna line up and take care of him financially, NOPE! my guess is they would be saying why didnt you leave you are so stupid for staying. I wanted wes to stay more than anyone but I would never ever ever fault somebody for improving their life. We good luck in the pros brotha, show em how we ball on the hill
Some people are just jerks, can’t be helped.
It’s sad how many people get this angry over a college basketball player.
So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
I am the 1st and probably only official member of the David "Dr." Jones fanclub. Until I get the newsletter out, anyway.
Donte Whitner sez: Camp Jauron is over!
Stupid people
I started to get sucked into arguing on Facebook with some of the idiots, but then remembered I am 32 years old and people are just fucking idiots. Anyone who thinks Melo, Jonny, Wes and Donte owe fans and alumni anything are just disconnected. Melo has given his time and mostly money to help build one of the best basketball pratice facilities in the country. I always use the arguement that who wouldn’t have left college after their freshmen year if they were given a contract worth 10 million? I just can’t believe that some people are stupid enough to write some of this shit on public forums and not think it will haunt them some day.
The Hoyas shuffled off with their twin cocktails of discontent - Dana O'neil 2/18/10
I bet Georgetown “fans” would be far worse if they knew who was leaving for the NBA. They of course don’t because they only attend one game per year, against Duke.
"The horse jumped over the f#@king fence."
- KV
I was at the GTown game in DC
And it sure seemed like a roughly 1:1 ratio of GTown to Cuse fans. I find it interesting that the GTown student tickets are $40 for the Duke game and $5 for all other games. It seems that even the ticket office is aware of this phenomenon.
But anyway, back to the topic – these people are fools. When I was younger and players would leave in the 90’s I used to think that they were stupid and short-sighted – I mean, a college degree is priceless! But actually, it does have a price. And the truth is, people go to college to gain knowledge and skills that will make them employable. That includes extracurricular activities…like basketball. Fact is, if you’re a sophomore Newhouse student offered $10+ million to be the next Bob Costas you’re going to take that and follow your dream, not putz around at Cuse for two more years. So why shouldn’t a basketball player go?
Also note that, as Wes claims, he will finish classes and graduate this summer – he has been in college for 4 years (plus that year at prep school) even though he has junior eligibility. So…what’s the problem?
Thanks for calling out these hosers, Sean.
If I were like the rest of South Boston and considered sports jerseys a suitable wardrobe, I’d be the first to buy Wesley Johnson’s wherever he lands.
Shine now, young man!
by TheRenegadePumpkin on Apr 13, 2010 9:54 AM EDT reply actions
They are all just a bunch of idiots, anyone of them would jump at the opportunity to go pro if they were in his position. Sucks to see him go, but that is College ball for you. I wish you well in your long and succesful pro career Wes, it was fun watching you play.
by Hassanali181 on Apr 13, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
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