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Chipotle'd: Georgetown 91, Syracuse 84

Georgetown shot 69% in the second today.  You want to find "the secret to beating Syracuse?"  Shoot 69% in the 2nd half.  That'll do it.

With today's 91-84 loss to Georgetown in the Big East Quarters, right on the heels of the Louisville loss, the questions may now commence...

  • Is Syracuse's No. 1 seed in jeopardy?
  • Why isn't Wes Johnson screaming and jumping over people for the ball with less than a minute left and the team in need of major help?
  • Why is Scoop Jardine suddenly the defacto guy with the ball in his hand when SU needs a late score?  Does that make sense?
  • What about AO?  My God, what about AO?  That looked, sounded and felt horrible.  I don't feel good about the impending news.
  • What's going through Rick Jackson's mind sometimes?
  • How can Andy Rautins throw the best pass in the history of basketball and some of the worst passes in the history of basketball in the same game?

Lots more questions after that but that's just to get us started as we commence worrying for the next four days until they announce the NCAA seeds.  My guess...the Orange still get a one-seed but they've got a stigma hanging over them until the tournament begins and they start winning again.

And don't even get me started on Chipotle.  F*** those guys.

Update:  According to Pete Thamel, "Arinze Onuaku's mother said that XRays on her son's knee were negative. "He's fine. He will be back for the NCAA Tournament."  Mama knows best.

Update 2: Boeheim is now on record saying Onuaku suffered a strained right knee.  An MRI is scheduled for Friday.

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I'm still standing by my Scoop/Chipotle theory

Scoop was on fire…perhaps literally. Yeah, I went for a cheap fart joke.

Ooo yea that's hot.

by Scoopette on Mar 11, 2010 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Why isn’t Wes Johnson screaming and jumping over people for the ball with less than a minute left and the team in need of major help?

Why should we expect that to happen all of a sudden?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

But that's just not Wes's game

This team has won by being a team all year, Wes has never tried to get shots when it wasn’t there, he’s been content to play a role. Why should SU suddenly abandon the formula that brought them all this success this year?

Everyone clanging for Wes to take over needs to realize that this team has been winning all season by never looking to one player, but to looking for each other.

So why wouldn’t THAT be the go-to strategy down the stretch?

by BQueezy on Mar 11, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

KrisJo nailed that 3 with 51s to go

I mean, with that much time left, down 4…who didn’t think that the guys on the floor might pull off something crazy? I did because I knew they could all score. I think Scoop got fouled on that drive that would have cut it to 2. Then GTown started hitting FTs and it was toast. Oh well. Important thing is AO healing that knee…and fast.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I said it in the other thread...

…and I’ll say it here. Maybe getting bumped down to a #2 seed might be good for this team. They are at their worst when they coast, and are disinterested. Maybe losing the #1 seed will piss them off, providing them with enough focus to get out of the opening rounds of the NCAA tournament.

I know, I’m reaching here…

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Mar 11, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

I don't see how you guys get knocked down to a #2

would they really put WVU or Duke above you? You beat WVU. Good news about AO being ok.

Good game yall

It's not me, It's you

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Mar 11, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

AO's ok?

please tell me where you heard that. Make my day better.

Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here! -The Dude

by S2 on Mar 11, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

What was it then?

Other people look, Andy Rautins can SEE.

by FatK44 on Mar 11, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

MRI

we know he didn’t break his knee cap.

what about ligament damage?

i know mama is optimistic — but i mean — even Boobie Miles needed an MRI

by Charles Oakley on Mar 11, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think they'll lose the #1 seed.

Who would replace them?

At least AO gets a week off.

Let’s pray for a late Friday draw

The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.

by StrawHatGuy on Mar 11, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Kansas St. and Duke

If they both win their conference tournaments

by crouton on Mar 11, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

no chance for K-State

unless Duke and OSU bust out early and K-State takes the Big 12. In that situation the winner of the BET (assuming its WVU or Nova) would have a legit shot at the last #1 as well.

K-State and Duke getting #1s would also shut out the BE from any #1 seeds. The Big 12 is arguably better than the BE, but not that much better to get 2 #1s vs. none for the BE. And theres no way in hell the ACC gets a #1 and the BE doesn’t.

"You heard it out of my mouth, if we get the No. 3 seed, get your Final Four tickets." - Carmelo Anthony

by bloodyyank44 on Mar 11, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Big 12 is NOT arguably better than the Big East

And with KState #9 right now…. theres no way they would just up to #4 even if they have to beat Kansas. Thats just too big a jump.

If SU loses its #1 seed, it would be between Duke or Ohio State. Duke would get it because its Duke. It WOULD be a tragedy if the Big East has no #1 seeds (even though we would probably have 3 of the #2 seeds). SU should hold on though. And thats assuming Duke or Ohio State win their tourneys.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Mar 11, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Duke already has a #1 seed probably.

SU, Kansas, Kentucky and Duke. Purdue is most likely out of the running. So really, it’s gonna be Ohio State or the BE winner if anyone takes it from us. Maybe K-State if they win the Big 12 tourney.

by NOLACuse on Mar 11, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I just see that too

Yeah, Purdue is done. I think it would be highly controversial if Ohio State or West Virginia or kansas State are a #1 seed. They just don’t have that top seed feel in my eyes. Excellent teams, yeah, but I think SU is stronger than any of them.

I also feel like there is a 3rd Time Karma in NCAAs….how many teams beat the same team 3 times in a season?! That 3rd game is the loss it seems.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Mar 11, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the BE is better top to bottom

Being “aguably” better doesn’t mean they are in fact better. It just means a logical argument can be made that they are better. Some will make continue to make that argument for the B12.

That being said, I think the BE is better than the B12. Therefore, the idea of the B12 getting 2 #1’s and the BE none is completely ridiculous. And K-State is a solid 2 or 3 regardless of what they do in the B12 tourney. They screwed themselves with that stinker vs ISU.

"You heard it out of my mouth, if we get the No. 3 seed, get your Final Four tickets." - Carmelo Anthony

by bloodyyank44 on Mar 11, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I get what you are saying

But the best thing I heard tells a great story. Kansas has(had) Texas Tech (17-14, unranked) in the Quarterfinals. Winner likely plays #24 Texas A&M (should they win against Nebraska (15-17). The other side has Baylor & Kansas St.

Syracuse, on the other hand, just played #20 Georgetown (which had been a top 10 or close to it much of the season) in the Quarters, and the winner likely plays #10 Villanova to GET to the Finals. The other bracket has #16 Pitt and #7 West VA.
 I think thats a bigg difference between conferences.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Mar 11, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

It’s the Kenyon Martin Situation

(potentially also the name of a Brooklyn-based electronica band)

"Size matters. At least in basketball." - James Arthur Boeheim

by Bernie Fine is the Man on Mar 11, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mean any disrespect to AO

But Kenyon was way more valuable to that Cincinatti team than AO is to Cuse. Without AO, Cuse is indisputably a worse team, but they aren’t completely screwed.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a real simple formula for this team...

Make your close shots. When we lose, we make about 75% of our close shots, layups, etc.

Today—Rick was as soft as butter. Not much else going on down there to get excited about.

Don’t turn the ball over more than 12 times.

Today—19.

Get 20+ assists.

Today—17.

That’s a assist/turnover ratio of less than 1. Not going to get it done.

Seriously… I’d rather have Forth than RJ these days. Three of Andy’s TO’s were because RJ forgot he had fingers. Just a complete black hole for the ball. Soft fouls on Monroe. Just such SOFTNESS. He is 1000000000 times more talented than me. He knows more about basketball than I do. I love the kid. BUT THIS IS THE BIG EAST. PUT ON A MOUTHPIECE AND DOMINATE. USE YOUR BODY!!!!!

by ezcuse on Mar 11, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

That's exactly it

Make the layups that got us one of the best FG% in the country. Someone work on RJ’s hand strength for the love of god.

Stop turning the ball over as much, I would even argue we can survive most 15 TO nights.

The rest (defense) will work itself out.

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Mar 12, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

AO

An x-ray isn’t going to tell if he tore he has a torn ligament or not.

by BigOrange5 on Mar 11, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

Hope that news is true on AO

Losing in the BET to G’town pisses me off more than anything, but losing AO is absolute devastation.

As for seeding, UConn lost back to back last year heading into the NCAA tourney and they still held on to the #1 seed along with Pitt and UL. I just don’t see the BE NOT getting even a single #1 seed this year.

"You heard it out of my mouth, if we get the No. 3 seed, get your Final Four tickets." - Carmelo Anthony

by bloodyyank44 on Mar 11, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Oh well

we didn’t win the BE championship in 2003 either, did we?

by pegs on Mar 11, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

I couldn't care less about the BET right now

Our NCAA hopes hinge on AOs injury and how serious it is

by crouton on Mar 11, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Sean – can we get some sort of 24/7 feed for AO injury info?

"Size matters. At least in basketball." - James Arthur Boeheim

by Bernie Fine is the Man on Mar 11, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as the students go, the Georgetown students are on Spring Break. The SU students are in the middle of midterms and don’t start spring break until tomorrow. Many of the students who had tickets were not able to attend this game because we had midterms in the morning.

I’m a huge Syracuse fan. I have been in the front row for every game but one (except over winter break). I got up at 4am to get tickets to the big east tournament which I ended up being unable to use because I was planning to get there tonight. I love Syracuse Basketball, but I can’t miss a midterm. And I know a lot of other students in the same boat.

by Orange22 on Mar 11, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

who said anything about students?

1. Just because you sit front row does not ever automatically qualify someone for being a huge fan. 2. There was 70% syracuse fans at msg yesterday if you ask me and I don’t know if more than 10% left with a horse voice! Georgetown students did a decent job but they were outnumbered by all the syracuse fans who sat on their hands with no words. I haven’t EVER been to an su game at msg where there was only 1 let’s go orange chant, but that happened yesterday. I tried to start them, all I got was dirty looks even from syracuse “fans” who were first row

by orngfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry, when you said “I’m embarrassed to have been there georgetowns students outshined us even with their GROSS looking cheerleaders.” I assumed you were including Syracuse students in your analysis since one student section is generally compared to another. I’m sorry for my mistake since apparently you weren’t. But that really doesn’t have any effect on my point.

My point was not about the rest of the Syracuse fans. I don’t know anything about the rest of the Syracuse fans. I do know that most of the students couldn’t be there. Sitting in the first row at MSG is not the same as sitting in the first row of the student section. It means that we have slept outside, sat outside, missed classes when we had to, missed social events, etc. Yes, the people who participate in camping out for a week ARE in fact huge fans. I do think attending every game and getting there hours to a week early qualifies you for that. None of the people sitting first row at this game slept outside for a week to get there.

I don’t know why you are being so defensive. I didn’t say that you are wrong. I didn’t say that it was acceptable. I was simply offering an explanation for why there might have been fewer Syracuse students than Georgetown students (if there were, which apparently wasn’t what you were saying, so I don’t know). But either way. Chill out. Stop being so defense and stop attacking me.

by Orange22 on Mar 12, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It's still hard to believe that GTown team lost 8 BE games

If they get a good enough draw, they are more than capable of making the FF.

I don’t know what’s more shocking, GT’s 8 BE losses, or losing to a crappy Louisville team twice.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

So to be positive...

rest is good. Who needs this darn BE tourney, anyway?

Other people look, Andy Rautins can SEE.

by FatK44 on Mar 11, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's hope so, for his sake

An AO at less than 100% is usually pretty ineffective. His mental health is as troublesome as his physical health when he’s coming off some sort of ailment. We just have to hope he’s ok, can gut it out and give us some effective minutes going forward…..ugh

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You've gotta think

that in his senior season with the next lose ending his career, that mental toughness isn’t going to be as much of an issue. if there was ever a time for any player to mentally tough out an injury, it’s going to be now. AO has got to be more determined than any other time he’s been injured to come back in a week and a half

by BQueezy on Mar 11, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

HOYA SAXA

Keep those diabetes videos coming. Karma is a bitch.

by hoyamarlin on Mar 11, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

If Karma was really a bitch.

All your fans would be homeless and have Herpes.

Well one out of two isn’t bad.

by CapitalOrange on Mar 11, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That video was pretty stupid...

AlexO with a basketball in his hand makes Billy Celuck look coordinated.

That said, I could really give a shit about this game – the two that Syracuse already won against GTown were more important. Obviously Cuse wanted to win, but given that Johnson is still healing, KJo tweaked his knee last week, and now AO may have done some damage…this team needs to rest and recover.

Anyway, Cuse lost to UConn (and looked bad doing it) in the BET in 2003 – that turned out fine, I think.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, You should see me try to play in an actual game. Embarrassing.

Go, fight, and win.

by Alex O on Mar 11, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That field goal percentage was mostly our fault.

The zone was lazy and out of sync today. It looked like we were playing bad man-to-man really. I realize there are holes there, but other teams have tried to exploit them and failed. The team was just ugly today. Utter crap. Throw in 14.7 million missed layups and you’ve got a loss. They need to find the fire again. AO or not, they won’t make it past the Sweet 16 (or even that far) with effort like that. We need to impose our will because we’ve got a target on our backs, so we’re gonna keep getting everyone’s best shot.

by NOLACuse on Mar 11, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

At first, he said results would come on Monday

Haha, conveniently after Selection Sunday.

Then he said that they should have them tomorrow.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Boeheim is more than a mortal man...

… but he doesn’t know squat… X-Rays can only tell structural damage, not joint damage like ligaments and all that jazz… For a huge, hulking lumbering center, who had leg surgery on that leg 2 years ago, even if the slight chance that he’s “ok” comes through, he won’t be the same.

Which is SCARY considering how poorly the backside of the zone played today. Imagine DeShonte Riley all wide-eyed back there vs a decent team in the 2nd round.

Color me pessimistic, but I’m afraid our dream is dead.

by Nicks2Cents on Mar 12, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

heartbeat slowing, hope rising, smile widening… ahhh

Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here! -The Dude

by S2 on Mar 11, 2010 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

So our 4 losses have been noon, 1pm, 2pm, noon

here’s hoping for a 7pm slot for playing in the Tourney

by sportzbelle on Mar 11, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

most of our players get there early and take naps before games. Early games screw them up.

by ryanwk628 on Mar 11, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

poor excuse

they can take a nice long nap during the night before an early start

by sportzbelle on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand that. And both teams have to deal with it. But athletes have rituals and routines. This stuff can mess the up. Especially if Scoop and Andy dont have as much time to get their pregame shots in.

by ryanwk628 on Mar 11, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

there’s something to be said that Georgetown got to go through the same ritual on back to back days and Syracuse didn’t. Another reason Boeheim is pushing for a reconfigured tourney where the top 4 seeds play on day 1 and get a bye on day 2, and 5-12 get a bye day 1 and then play through.

by krackatoan on Mar 11, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

oh please

I understand routines but you can’t be that inflexible that you play notably worse if the start time doesn’t fit into your schedule.

And a lot of people would argue that it’s harder to play games on back to back days then having a few days rest. Didn’t Boeheim say he was happy we had some days to rest up nagging injuries?

It’s the playoffs – time to show up, no matter what the circumstances are.

by sportzbelle on Mar 11, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

how would that work?

bracket-wise? 1 seed has to play the 8 or the 9/16 team. How can they play a game vs a team that gets a bye on Day 1?

by Nicks2Cents on Mar 12, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Day 1: 1/16, 2/15, 3/14, 4/13 – Winners get a day off

Day 2: 8/9, 7/10, 6/11, 5/12

Day 3 – Tourney resumes as normal.

by nymetsfan1226 on Mar 12, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Good research/observation

"Size matters. At least in basketball." - James Arthur Boeheim

by Bernie Fine is the Man on Mar 11, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Onuaku

No way we know anything about his knee until tomorrow or Saturday. If the knee is swelling they can’t take an MRI until it goes down. An Xray doesn’t prove anything as of now other than he didn’t break a bone.

Also Cuse is getting a 1 seed. They may be shipped to Salt Lake instead of Houston but the committee will look at the overall body of work. K-State has beaten no one. NO ONE. and lost to Iowa State to end the year, they are in the same boat as Syracuse. If I had to guess, Syracuse will get shipped out West, Duke will be in Houston (if they win the ACC tourney) and Kansas and Kentucky retain their bids. If WVU wins the BET, it won’t matter since the committee will be showing the regular season means nothing if they seed them number 1. That’s not something they’ll do.

The question becomes does the committee stick New Mexico as the 2 in the West because of travel issues and put Ohio state or WVU with Duke.

by krackatoan on Mar 11, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

I really hope SU doesn't get shipped West.

I am looking forward to being able to get to Houston for their games if they make it that far.

by NOLACuse on Mar 11, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Memphis just lost to Houston

Great news for bubble teams everywhere. Alabama is also just finishing off a double-digit comeback over South Carolina.

by rcpratt on Mar 11, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

I don't even feel like going anywhere today

but my fatness is telling me I need to go to the gym

by pegs on Mar 11, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Okay

I’m really starting to think this team has legitimate issues playing in daytime games. This is just too much.

"Wes Johnson's your daddy and daddy's hungry, bitches!"

by bwelch37 on Mar 11, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Good news perhaps....

During the Nova/Marquette game, they were talking about the AO injury and flashed to his mom, sister and brother in the crowd. They were smiling and didn’t seem concerned at all. If the injury was severe, I feel like they’d be with him right now, or at least not sitting there watching this game and smiling….Let’s hope

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Do we know that it was actually a shot of them in the crowd at the ’Nova game and not during the early part of the SU-Gtown game?

by Orange22 on Mar 11, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

They have legitimate issues period

You don’t commit 10 first half turnovers, you build up a cushion of a lead.

It is game 32 and the team looks no less sloppy than Game 1 or Game 14.

If they don’t care about turnovers, fine. Just don’t expect to have a long March Madness.

Some less talented team with more regular season losses and a better emphasis on possession of the ball is going to beat us.

And Boeheim could have preserved the #1 seed by coasting with subs against Louisville. Then we would have two defensible losses in a row (LVille with subs getting most of the PT) and G’Town (hard to beat a team three times). Oh well.

by ezcuse on Mar 11, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

But we normally have great emphasis on possession.

And our turnovers, overall, this year have been quite low. That’s not to say I’m not concerned, but this isn’t an undisciplined team. They just played an undisciplined game. There is a difference and I think it will be corrected come next week.

by NOLACuse on Mar 11, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Cuse tied for the most TO's/game in the BE this year.

Several of Rautins’s turnovers were inside the 3 pt line. Honestly, if the pass isn’t there – just shoot it. Not that he shoots a lot inside the arc, but when he does he’s pretty nasty.

Sometimes with these TOs, they are sacrificing a good shot for a risky pass that could lead to a great shot. Sometimes you just need to pull up from 15ft – especially when a big like Monroe is playing really good D on our big men.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Or pull it back out

Seems every time Andy starts a drive, its pass or bust. Very rarely does he continue in for the layup, and he pulls it back out even less….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

21 fouls to 13 fouls

Were we really that lazy on offense? (Joseph with only 2 FT?)

And were we really that hack-happy on defense?

I missed the game, so some info on that would be nice.

by pegs on Mar 11, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Lazy on O?

Not at all. We shot 55% from the floor and 3. Turnovers were a major problem, as always, and Gtown played excellent interior D.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

During halftime

John Saunders said that he talked to Andy Rautins’ father, Leo Rautins (have you heard that?), and said AO left MSG on crutches. FYI

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 3:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

That doesn't really mean much

He’d be on crutches with a strain or something far worse. His knee is swollen, I’m sure.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN.com reporting...

That SU team docs said that this is a recurring problem with AO that he has played through in previous years.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

I hate Curt Schilling

So let’s keep this Yankees/Red Sox neutral. I have a feeling that there is a split among Cuse fans on this topic. ;)

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And apparently its his Quad

Not the knee

The popping sound for a quad is definitely not good….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2010 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think I'm more upset by the fact we allowed 91 points

When we score 84, we should win, period. This is a total failure defensively and that’s not a good sign going into the tournament.

by chrisbee13 on Mar 11, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

The 91 points is most concerning

Our zone looked completly lost. G-town missed a dozen open looks and still scored 91

Not the way to expect to win. How many of G-town’s baskets were even contested shots?

This team lives and dies by it’s D. I don’t know where it was today

by BQueezy on Mar 11, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

you guys are overlooking something here with your slamming your D

your D has been amazing all year, because of its novelty, it gives teams fits b/c they can’t figure out how to crack the zone.

What happened here wasn’t your D suddenly stinking, what happened was Georgetown, a team that has played you 3 times, figured out how to beat the zone.

Once that happened you were in trouble. You couldn’t suddenly start playing man. You tried to key on Monroe, but he passes too well and made you pay. You tried to apply a press, but the Hoyas are very good at beating the press.

Unless you play Louisville or the Hoyas again in the tourney, I wouldn’t worry too much about your D

It's not me, It's you

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Mar 11, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate agreeing with a Hoya fan...

But he’s right.

Also, I think it would have been worth trying not putting Jackson right on Monroe in the high post. Let the dude try out some 12-15 foot shots and try and eliminate his passes to cutters (Chris Wright got a ton of layups this way). Would have been worth a try at least. But what do I know.

by DMF on Mar 11, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Boeheim said after the game...

… that he’s looking forward to facing a team who “hasn’t seen us yet”… Truer words can not be spoken. The 2-3 is great this year, but it CAN be beaten. GTown is a smart, well-coached team with the perfect personnel to beat a 2-3. Savvy, passing big man who has 3-4 options to hit for 3s and slashers. Not every team has that and even then it took them 3 tries to beat us.

That’s not as worriesome to me as expecting the 2-3 zone to be as effective with no AO down low.. OR our #1 post-up option on the other end.

by Nicks2Cents on Mar 12, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Look, I’ll give you the fact that your bigs were playing aggressively enough where our bigs didn’t seem to ever be able to get back out onto the wing. They could either play the inside or play the outside, but not both. Your bigs outplayed ours this game — when I tuned into the second half, the Georgetown guys were hitting the glass pretty hard.

Still, I’d rather be a team you have to play three times to “figure out” than be a team that can win against a really good team and then be blown out by a really bad team come the NCAA tournament. I don’t reckon we’ll have the problem of being figured out unless we play you or Louisville, and I anticipate an angry SU team going into that game.

Other people look, Andy Rautins can SEE.

by FatK44 on Mar 11, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree

Hope you guys tear through the tournament. For my money, you’re better than Kansas and Kentucky. Especially Kentucky. Cole Aldrich is a stiff. No way the athletes that are Big East big men have a problem with him.

I might be delusional, though.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Mar 11, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

This sucks – you guys are being so reasonable. My world is falling apart.

"The horse jumped over the f#@king fence."
- KV

by TEMSON on Mar 11, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess everyone can band together to hate teams in other conferences come tourney time. It’s a nice thing to see, if I do say so myself.

Other people look, Andy Rautins can SEE.

by FatK44 on Mar 11, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I think I speak for most Hoyas fan in rooting for Cuse to be the first 1 seed to drop to a 16 seed.

by hoyamarlin on Mar 11, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh if only Princeton scored one more basket or Georgetown missed one back in 89……

….and if we didn’t lose to Richmond a few years later as a 2. A combo of that would’ve been fantastic but beggars can’t be choosers I suppose.

by RyanMcD29 on Mar 11, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahha

Spoken with true Hoya hatred. I like that.

Other people look, Andy Rautins can SEE.

by FatK44 on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

*Especially Kansas

But glad the point got across.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Mar 11, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're partially right.

But I saw a lot of lazy defense to make matters worse. It wasn’t just a matter of being figured out.

by NOLACuse on Mar 11, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a lot of things

On defense… we had to deal with Monroe. Why? Because we were shooting jump shots on offense. We should have been pounding it into AO and RJ to get Monroe in foul trouble again.

Frickin’ RJ. Instead of going up strong and scoring… instead of giving a head fake and going up and getting fouled… he does the medium thing… not strong enough to get through Monroe… but weak enough for someone to tie him up or knock the ball out of his hands. Where is the intelligence??? Score or get fouled. Don’t come away empty. UGH!

Also.. on offense we hit 3’s and then fell into the trap that teams usually fall into against us… being smitten with the 3’s. What happens when you are 6 for 9? You end up not finishing 12 for 18, that’s for sure.

Also.. on offense we hit 3’s and then fell into the trap that teams usually fall into against us… being smitten with the 3’s. What happens when you are 6 for 9? You end up not finishing 12 for 18, that’s for sure.As for defense, I think it was less about laziness and more about G’Town doing the right things because they had Monroe on the floor. He makes a huge difference—few players are as good as him when it comes to passing from the post or baseline midrange area. G’Town found the holes… giving themselves high percentage shots.

Also.. on offense we hit 3’s and then fell into the trap that teams usually fall into against us… being smitten with the 3’s. What happens when you are 6 for 9? You end up not finishing 12 for 18, that’s for sure.As for defense, I think it was less about laziness and more about G’Town doing the right things because they had Monroe on the floor. He makes a huge difference—few players are as good as him when it comes to passing from the post or baseline midrange area. G’Town found the holes… giving themselves high percentage shots.Our offense was basically 3’s and erratic drives to the hoop. That’s the tactic of a 10 seed, not a 1-2 seed.

Also.. on offense we hit 3’s and then fell into the trap that teams usually fall into against us… being smitten with the 3’s. What happens when you are 6 for 9? You end up not finishing 12 for 18, that’s for sure.As for defense, I think it was less about laziness and more about G’Town doing the right things because they had Monroe on the floor. He makes a huge difference—few players are as good as him when it comes to passing from the post or baseline midrange area. G’Town found the holes… giving themselves high percentage shots.Our offense was basically 3’s and erratic drives to the hoop. That’s the tactic of a 10 seed, not a 1-2 seed.

by ezcuse on Mar 11, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Not exactly sure what happened with that post.

Rest assured, I did not write the same paragraph 3 1/2 times.

by ezcuse on Mar 11, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

It was like you were building on it each time. I’m thinking, “I get it. We shot too many 3’s. Jesus.”

by NOLACuse on Mar 11, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Read first 10 comments

Syracuse is obviously a #1 seed still. Definitely the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country.

Duke winning the ACC wouldnt pass them.
K-st winning the Big-12 wouldnt pass them.
OSU has 124 losses.
Purdue got hummeled.

Unless AO is out for tourney we are a #1 seed, ainec.

by brendoh on Mar 11, 2010 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

WVU?

what if WVU takes the BET? would that be enough to get them a #1 seed?

by SalRizzo on Mar 12, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

promise the hoyas will do their best to stop that from happening

(after beating Marquette)

I can have oodles of charm when I want to.

by aja32 on Mar 12, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Will the real Rick Jackson please stand up

I have to think that even if he is ready to play in the tournament, AO is not going to be 100%. Rick Jackson is going to have to step up…this concerns me.

For a guy that big and that strong, he has some of the weakest—NOT to be confused with softest—hands I’ve ever seen. MAN UP RICK, SQUEEZE THE ROCK.

That being said, if RJ does step up and play his best ball, I dont think the loss of AO hurts too bad.

"play like hell and win" - perry fewell

by letsgobuffalo12 on Mar 11, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Something would be wrong if Ohio State got ahead of us.

We’re 2-0 against the Buckeyes in common games (WITH Evan Turner).

by adselver15 on Mar 12, 2010 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

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