Gary Parrish & Jeff Goodman Meet Cuse Nation
by Sean Keeley on Mar 1, 2010 5:24 PM EST
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Last night Gary Parrish and Jeff Goodman both proclaimed Kansas as the No. 1 choice in their latest polls. Goodman is an AP voter so it confirmed what many of us thought...that the Orange still needed to fight if they wanted sole consideration for the No. 1 spot. Naturally, Cuse fans decided to try and catch Parrish and Goodman's ears last night and this morning to find out why they did what they did and to try and make compelling arguments on SU's behalf.
Things got predictably testy, as they do, and Parrish launched an offensive of his own that was, sufficed to say, offensive. Using his column to personally insult one specific Syracuse fan over comments that weren't even her own, Parrish unleashed a Cuse Twitterati attack the likes of which haven't been seen since the Great Peloponnesian Twitter War of 422 B.C. (@Thucydides Oh snap, it's on! RT: PrinceCyrus6969 More like Fart-ans RT @DaRealArchidamus SPARTANS!!!).
Lord knows everyone takes heat for doing/saying anything about teams, but you should be ashamed for comments about a fan.
where is your journalistic integrity? That is offensive, sexist, and harrassment. I hope she sues you for libel.
Stupid? No. Wrong? Maybe.... Bashing a fan because she criticized you is complete stupidity.
Attention Gary Parrish: I'm coming for you. You fucked with the wrong Twitterati.
I'm waiting for @GaryParrishCBS to take that comment down without issuing an apology, and trying to pretend it never happened....
@GaryParrishCBS is a master of tweeting about every issue that no one cares about, and avoiding the one that is actually important.
The correct response, @GaryParrishCBS , would have been, "Yeah it was over the line and I apologize." But then again, you're a tool.
Parrish took to Brent Axe's On The Block show to defend his pick and his comments and, well, it didn't really help matters.
He says he looks at the body of work with an emphasis on what's happened recently. Axe challenged him on this- wasn't the most recent thing the SU-Nova game and the Kansas- Oklahoma State game. Parrish then went back to talking about the resumes.
Axe then brought a comment Parrish had made on twitter that an SU fan "was a girl but looked like a man". Axe felt that was "over the line". Parrish said he didn't know what the line was or if he needed to be over it. He said that he wasn't calling anybody stupid but people are calling him stupid so he's going to "give as good as he gets."
This pissed Axe off. He says he gets mean-spirited E-mails all the time but doesn't reduce himself to their level. He feels there is a line and Parrish went under it and he shouldn't have as a professional in his field. He was so angered by this that he described Parrish's defense of his position as "moronic" and hoped Goodman would do a better job of it.
At the very least, Parrish can recognize that the person he insulted didn't actually say the comments he took offense to. And I would think some form of apology is in order. Considering the person he targeted is currently considering a lawsuit, we'll see just how good he can give.
Goodman, to his credit, seems to have spent the day rationally explaining his decision, you know, like a journalist. We can disagree with his decision but as long as you present your argument lucidly and with factual basis, then that's about as fair as we can get. Now its up to the guys actually wearing the uniforms to prove us right or wrong.
This Parrish business is far from over. I'm sure Axe will post his interview with him and Goodman ASAP so we'll give a listen and go from there.
Axe's interview with Parrish is live. So is the one with Goodman.
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He opened a can of worms and he was given the opportunity to make it right.
He decided being unprofessional was his thing. I know I emailed CBS and I believe others did as well. I can’t imagine they are very happy with him right now. Parrish should be preparing to crash and burn right about now.
If you want action...
If you want outcry for Parrish’s comment and link, you’re going to have to send tearful e-mails complaining to the National Organization for Women and Gloria Allred and their ilk. All CBS is going to see is that a previously little cared about sportswriter is now generating huge buzz for cbssports.com and lots of web traffic (which means potentially more ad revenue). I doubt CBS will do anything to Parrish other than tacitly encouraging him. Besides, if we slip up against St. Johns or L’ville… He’s going to say ‘I told you so’. No, if you want CBS to do anything you’ll need to leverage pressure on CBS that could damage their brand. External forces like NOW or the ACLU could accomplish this. It might also be handy if you can find anything he wrote trying to dismiss Vick’s dogfighting as a non-issue or something condoning Vick’s dog fighting… to leverage PETA and the animal rights camp against him as well. Gotta think outside the box, or in the case, the key.
Orange you glad it's not football season?
@garyparrishcbs
"You a big orange Imma put you in the fridge!" -Stanley Robinson in response to my heckling
by Moiso13 on Mar 1, 2010 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow...
Gottlieb doesn’t seem so bad now haha
by KyleMcintoshStiffarm on Mar 1, 2010 5:37 PM EST reply actions
As probably the biggest DougG basher here
I completely agree. Doug keeps it professional. He’s a douche, but I give him ten times the respect after what this clown (Parrish) has gone on to become.
Go Orange(men)!
Gary Parrish really shouldn’t be commenting on physical appearances
"You a big orange Imma put you in the fridge!" -Stanley Robinson in response to my heckling
by Moiso13 on Mar 1, 2010 5:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So what was the comment he made?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Picking on someone's physical appearance
is the lowest form of insult.
That being said, Gary Parrish looks like the love child of an Oompa Loompa and Adam Lambert.
Alright Brain, you don't like me and I don't like you. But lets just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Is it really even that big of a deal that someone puts Kansas above us?
I mean honestly, I can see the argument (not that I agree with it)… not in terms of resume’ but I am fairly familiar with KU’s team (one side of my family is almost exclusive composed of current students and alumni of that university, and I was a fan before I came to Syracuse), and overall, in terms of their players, they seem better on paper. But overall I think it’s been proven that ‘Cuse as a team functions better than anyone in the country, however if someone fails to realize that, I don’t take particular offense. That’s why Jay Bilas said he still gives a slight edge to Kansas as the best team in the country, but he still admitted Syracuse deserves to be #1. So if KU is getting a couple votes, whatever. No need to freak out.
That being said, Parrish is a tool-bag.
"Wes Johnson's your daddy and daddy's hungry, bitches!"
It's not an issue of him being wrong.
It’s an issue of him being a jerk. He wrote an article BEFORE the Cuse/Nova game saying that regardless of what happened he would keep KU first in his poll. He cherry picks his reasons and generally shows himself to be illogical, inconsistent and generally boorish.
Other than Keegan putting Cuse #3, I really don’t care that Syracuse wasn’t a unanimous #1. I can understand the reasons for people putting Kansas #1. (Duke is another issue…I wonder what coach did that…)
by DMF on Mar 1, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think we've accepted the fact that
the Kansas argument isn’t really a bad argument. We get it. Though it seems rather strange that the weekly poll suddenly is all about bodies of work and not recent history. That seems to have changed this week all of a sudden.
Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician - The Syracuse blog that cares.
You're right
The resume rankers are — and always are — more correct than people just sliding teams around. But the vocal minority (namely Parish) make it seem like you’d be a fool not to rank Kansas first. It’s not like Syracuse is playing a mid-major schedule here.
By the way, he’s so irrelevant it’s hardly worth mentioning, but Skip Bayless said that Syracuse might not even deserve to be in the top 10 given their strength of schedule, which was at last check… oh. Top 15, in the toughest conference in the country.
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Mar 1, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
There is no way Skip Bayless believes everything he says...
I personally think he’s paid by ESPN to make the most ridiculous arguments so that people like us will watch 1st and 10 and then talk about it later.
by G'OrangeDM on Mar 1, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Like I said, barely even relevant. Still, you’d hope whatever producer writes this crap for him would have at least an iota of respect for truth and reason.
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Mar 1, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
At least
Woody Paige did a LITTLE bit of fact checking to go along with crazy statements. It just seems like Bayless just believes whatever he wants and gets paid to do that.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Mar 1, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
When did Bayless say that?
He seems to have a bug up his ass about us.
Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician - The Syracuse blog that cares.
According to Brent Axe, this morning
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Mar 1, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
All of the sudden its overall, but when we lost to Louisville it was about the moment to those guys. I think there should be a conference exchange program for a season and see how well a Kansas, or Duke or whoever would do in the Big East, as well as a Big East team in the Big 12 or Big 10 haha
by KyleMcintoshStiffarm on Mar 1, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Right, right
It’s probably psychological… people are so used to the talk all pre-season and all regular season being “Kansas! Kentucky! Kansas! Kentucky!” that they can’t bring themselves to accept the fact that these upstarts in orange that started the season unranked (okay, so we were #25 in one poll, whatever), with no hype, no luster, just might have a better claim to the #1 spot.
To hell with these slaves of the media cycle!
"Wes Johnson's your daddy and daddy's hungry, bitches!"
I wonder if Gary Parrish normally takes insults from guys and choose not to react until a girl makes the same comment and then attacks her? Such a man worth following. First off, i get called worse than that by people I respect and never attack them. Second, I would not select a girl to be the one I did attack because I don’t have the balls to confront the guy who originally made the statement. Third, is “I’m sorry, I misread the tweet” such a hard thing to do or does that take away from your cool factor with your friends you douchebag. I have literally seen worse comments than anything posted last night left for Axe on his blog and he merely laughed them off but at least when he did address it, he was man enough to confront the person behind it and not attack the one girl who happened to repeat it.
Graduated with a bachelors in Journalism...
…must have missed the class where using your medium to personally attack an individual is acceptable.
I also love how all of a sudden, losing at home is now tougher than winning on the road. It’s like you really have to TRY and lose two games at home in the Big East, but winning on the road in the Big 12 is impossible?
Great point
Syracuse is borderline being punished -by a very small contingent, but still - for being perfect away from the Dome. If ONLY they had a few more road losses! Now obviously a road loss is usually worth a bit more than a home loss… but losing to two tournament teams, in conference, in pretty close games at home is still pretty freaking good.
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Mar 1, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oops
Didn’t mean to strikethrough there.
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Mar 1, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
It's really too bad
that Gary Parrish had to spout off today and put a black mark on what’s otherwise been a fantastic day (and weekend… and season) for the program. Let’s just try to enjoy this. We can enjoy and launch a Twitter assault, right?
...it's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
Only comment I've made off Twitter
Sean, great recap. Thanks for quality work as usual.
It's days like today
that I wish I actually understood Twitter.
Sad that I’m not even 30.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Mar 1, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Signing up for an account
and following NunesMagician and HoyaSuxa will be your first step to clarity.
Here's the jist
PJASchultz retweeted something originally posted by pmanley (the guy that does the big heads for the games) – basically, she quoted something he tweeted – and Parrish used the first sentence of his Monday Look Back to say that she “kind of looks like a boy.” Much tweeting has ensued…
by DMF on Mar 1, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
What's really sad about this...
is that something like this might be expected on Blogs, twitter, etc. but not from a so called ‘professional’. Remember, we had the ‘Great Purdue blog battle of 2010’. By the end, people said, ’you’re right, I made a mistake. Let’s fix it then be friends and respect each other. Good luck in the future.’ Hell, we even have the Gentleman from the Purdue blog on here gives us congrats after Saturday. I’m sure if the situation was reversed, Sean would probably give them congrats.
Now, you have a so called professional get upset because someone questions his wisdom and knowledge and he goes for personal attacks.
I really hope CBS goes all Tony K. on him but we all know that will never happen.
Haha
Funny story, but earlier this season after Parrish picked UNC to beat us I sent a drunk email to him. I honestly don’t remember why I sent it other than that I was drunk, saw he didn’t pick us, and said:
CUSE WINS BRING ON WHOEVER MOFO!!!
The next day I got the funniest surprise ever. He replied with:
“It’s whomever, mofo”
Here is what I want...
I want some fan to bring a Gary Parrish big head to the Dome… let everybody boo it… and then rip it to shreds.
I don’t care that he is a loser that ranked Syracuse #2. But to insult that girl is too low a blow to not go unpunished.
I’ll be watching you students…
This is how every Syracuse fan feels
What does Syracuse do...SHUT IT DOWN. Nuff said.
by agentdp009 on Mar 1, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
no chance!
GP only wishes he was as cool as the miz!
No class
For the record, I am not an SU fan, but read about college basketball every once in a while to appease my younger brother. I think your comment about the SU fan is completely classes. Clearly you have no journalistic integrity.
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