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Mike Williams Has Had Better Days

via media.syracuse.com

When Mike Williams quit the Syracuse football team mid-season, the general consensus was that he had cost himself not only a chance to be drafted in the first-round but also millions of dollars.  It was thought that he was going to need a stellar combine and workouts in order to prove to NFL teams that he wasn't the horrible decision-maker, complainer, trouble-maker and quitter that he seemed to be.

So much for that, says PFT.

"Mike Williams did not help himself," the source said.  "He was supposed to be a 4.4 guy and was closer to 4.62.  He was horrible in interviews blaming everyone but himself for his problems at Syracuse. . . .  He did catch the ball [at the Scouting Combine] but everything else was poor."

"He is a great talent but a train wreck as a person," the source opined, expressing regret for the fact that draft experts who pump up Williams' chances are only setting the player and his family up for disappointment when reality strikes.

YIIIIIIKES.  The article also mentions that Mike will not be allowed to work out for scouts as part of Orange Pro Day.  Doug Marrone holds a grudge...and he's fairly justified in this one. 

There's still time for Williams to sell at least one team on his abilities, which at the end of the day, will determine whether or not he gets drafted.  But all signs point to Mike Williams' issues at SU over the last two years being par for the course, rather than "wrong place, wrong time."

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What grudge?

I don’t think it’s a matter of grudge, it’s a matter of not being part of the Syracuse Orange. He quit. If you quit your job, you can’t go back and make free photocopies of your resume.

by DMF on Feb 28, 2010 11:50 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I’d love to pile on….. but NFL. com has him at 4.45 and 4.46 unofficially.

by Whitey23 on Mar 1, 2010 7:50 AM EST reply actions  

Ah, here we go, not on NFL.com but seems legit

Name: Mike Williams
College: Syracuse
Height: 6014 (6.014 feet I assume, under 6’1", yikes)
Weight: 221
Arms: 32 1/2
Hands: 9 1/4
40 time: 4.45 (that’s nice)
225: 8 (reps to bench 225 pounds, 8 is fine for a WR)
Vert: 33.5 (vertical jump, tough for a 6’1" guy)

So, he’s short, quick, and average strength. Not exactly the best combine numbers (not terrible, but just good), couple with the terrible attitude and he went for a sure 1st rounder to a “project”.

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Mar 1, 2010 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

I think that means 6’1.4" with the 0 being a place holder in case someone was 5’11.2 which would read 5112

by ryanwk628 on Mar 1, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

6-1 1/2

6014 = 6 Feet 1 Inch and 4 Eights of an Inch.

by boriscleto on Mar 1, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Looking here

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2010/nfl-combine-results.cfm?pos=WR

The numbers seem legit (though I wonder considering his 4.45 doesn’t show up on the NFL.com top performers list), but if you look at it in comparison to everyone else, his bench press was worst among the WRs who have results listed (it’s partially a measure of their ability to get off the line against pressing CBs), his vert was near the bottom among WRs,

[note: rotoworld.com is quoting an “unofficial” time of 4.49, and says his official time was slower than that. So who knows. I’m one of the people who thinks that 40-time is overrated anyways]

It’s a shame that he has these off-field issues and attitude issues. If he hadn’t had that (heck, even if he just hadn’t had issues this year), he’s a top 5 WR in this draft and a 1st or 2nd round pick. Instead he’ll be lucky to get drafted above the 6th round most likely.

by wildcatlh on Mar 1, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish him well in whatever non-football related venture

suits his lack of stones and gratitude. Name ANY other college player that has quit midseason. Even if you HATE your coach… you stick around for your teammates.

6.014?

by ezcuse on Mar 1, 2010 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

What was his vertical? Thats his strength. The jump balls

by ryanwk628 on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Vert: 33.5

There are 3 offensive lineman that did 33.5" or better.

by DMF on Mar 1, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I think his strength...

…wasn’t so much the height of the vertical, but the timing. He is a great natural receiver – too bad his work ethic and sense of personal responsibility suck.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Mar 1, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

God

This kid really needs to grow up. I mean, he’s still just a kid, and maybe he’ll figure it out eventually – but wow. He just comes off as a petulant brat when you read about stuff like this, and the fact that he didn’t exactly blow people away with his physical skills doesn’t auger well for Mike Williams.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Mar 1, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

So, Mike is

6’1", average vertical, average strength, very good speed.

He has to demonstrate very good/great route running to hope to be a Welker-ish wide receiver but if he doesn’t get the routes right he is essentially useless as a WR. (CB anyone?)

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Mar 1, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

33.5"?

You be the judge.

I haven’t seen that clip in a long time, but it’s funny to see Mike and Donte hanging out. Those guys had more raw talent and immaturity than any other Cuse football or basketball player in quite awhile. A unique honor.

At least it seems that Donte, in year two, is getting it together and working hard. Good for him, I find myself checkin the Sac box scores once in awhile to see how he’s doing.

by DMF on Mar 1, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

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