Exposure of a Terrible NCAA Basketball Rule

and focus on a call that, while it may be incorrect, shouldn’t have ever happened. If Cahill called the TO when Boeheim called for it, it wouldn’t have happened. A win’s a win, I could care less if it was the wrong call.

i think its interesting what you are saying, as i never knew the rule differences from nba to ncaa. however, LETS GIVE BOEHEIM CREDIT FOR TAKING THAT TIMEOUT RATHER THAN BLAME THE RULE!

GO ORANGE.

I agree that it’s a questionable rule, but I hardly think that makes this win “tainted.”

Abusing the rules is, in a way, part of college basketball. That’s why the trailing team will foul like crazy at the end of the game. Some would say that that breaking the rules (fouling) to claw back into a game isn’t right. It’s a loophole that a hot-shooting team can exploit. Does that mean the rules should be changed?

I know that this is totally different from the timeout rule, but I’m just trying to say that using the rules in place to your team’s advantage is something that every coach does. Don’t call it a tainted win because of that.

lets face it uconn had their chances to win the game you can’t say that one time out cost uconn the game. syracuse made the shots to win the game, did syracuse intentionally foul uconn or was it the other way around? did syracuse foul uconn on the inbound pass or did uconn foul wes johnson (blatant jersey grab which later espn said the foul wasn’t on wes which was a blatant lie)? 1:20 to go game tied, syracuse won, better team won.

The coach absolutely has an effect on the game and I’m with DMF, the player is rarely the one deciding to call a timeout anyway, so instead of the coach relaying it in, he just calls it. To call this egregious is insane quite frankly. You seem waaaaaaay overheated about a rule that is really just fine and not the assault on human decency you claim it to be. I’m interested to see this next post of yours because while I have no problem with someone getting overheated about a game, I’ve never seen someone claiming to be a fan of one team so steamed over a rule that benefited him/her. Do you get that angry every single time a timeout gets called? You should, because it’s the rule you railing against. The fact is, Boeheim called the timeout well before Scoop was in the air (or so it appears from the available video angles); it’s not Boeheim’s fault the ref is deaf and old. That’s the bullshit in all this, that a rule could let a game turn because of a ref’s mistake. The only bad taste in my mouth is from SU getting sloppy and letting UConn back into the game. That timeout I’m fine with since a) it was legitimate and b) it evened out the foul that should have been called when Scoop went up.

Seriously, dude. Coaches can call timeouts in just about every other sport where timeouts exist, why rail against basketball? Where were you during football season when coaches were icing kickers or calling timeouts in lacrosse games?

That game was horribly officiated from start to finish.

Too bad he refuses to cheer for the post-2004 Syracuse squads.

it does feel sort of weird that Scoop can make a really bad decision and mid-action Boeheim can go, “Nah, I wanta do-over” and call a time out.

I guess this is no different than calling a timeout when diving for a loose ball, or when trapped in the corner by the defense. But somehow it feels different and made me a little uncomfortable while watching the game with a UConn fan.

“I’m about to go out of bounds so I’ll call a time-out while in the air to keep possession” thing.

I like that Boeheim recognized that Scoop was about to do something stupid and tried to stop it. How the timing worked out will be debated endlessly (or until the next controversial call affects a game).

Regardless of how this played out, if Dyson doesn’t take a stupid 3-pointer their next possession, or if they don’t intentionally foul, UConn still had a chance to tie or win. This event did not determine the outcome of the game.

Zach: You’re getting dominated in this thread—fairly.

The victory isn’t tainted; it’s totally legitimate. The rules are what they are, and as long as they are, a coach should be able call a TO without any taint. (HA! Taint.).

You can argue that the rule is dumb (and for the record, it’s not; why shouldnt the coach be able to call a TO?), but you cant logically say that based upon your disagreeing with the rule, the win last night is tainted. Is UNC’s championship last year tainted? Are all 24 of SU’s wins this year tainted? I’ll bet Jimmy B calls a TO every game—I know Jimmy C does.

Anyway, Jimmy B was clearly calling the TO before Scoop was in the air, so that paragraph (5th-to-last) is not topical. Really, Jimmy B got the most screwed of anyone last night, because he was like 2 feet away from Cahill’s deaf ass yelling for like an hour and a half.

Dyson lost the game for shooting the 3 with 11 seconds on the shot clock, and Rick Jackson won it by being beastly down low.

Sigh. That pained me to write.

 So: Gerry Mac is an idiot! Devo’s an idiot! Shumpert never made it in the NBA! Seikaly’s eyebrows—gross! Upstate NY is cold and shit!

I see you’re making fast friends… ; )

this is the angriest I’ve seen any fan base after a big win over a rival school. To be honest, who cares, WE WON. Now let’s move on because remember WE WON. We must move on and think about Louisville cause WE WON this one and not that one (hopefully yet). Way too much anger after a win. I think I need to avoid all things SU for a while, until this blows over.

I know my opinions are marginal. Brilliance is usually hated on by conventional wisdom. :)

I understand y’all won’t agree on this. I concede to you this political victory, but I remain to stand for what’s right.

Moving forward. Go Orange.

After another disappointing loss I can only hope we have the luck our Football team had in the final stretch. The thing with the t.o. for me is I could not tell, even with the replays, whether or not it was called as scoop was in possession of the ball or not. To me this definately is not the definitive call of the game. Sure it could have gone either way and we all would still be complaining about it, but the fact that Dyson would take that 30 footer is beyond me. He is our best shooter from beyond the arc, but what does that say since were ranked like 333 out of 350 in div 1 schools with 3pointers made. So to be frank we had a chance to win and we (UConn) did not take the best opportunity to make that happen.

P.S. I love curb your enthusiasm, but hate Jim B.

im sure it was interesting

The win was made while following the rules. Despite it being a terrible rule, it was still the rule at the current time of the game. Calling the win tainted is just uncalled for.

For example, this is like saying the Patriots “tuck-game” was tainted because the refs applied a terrible rule correctly. And, I hate the Patriots (Jets fan), but I would never call their win tainted. That’s just wrong.

Be passionate, passion is welcomed here, but so is reason. Starting a rant unreasonably like that and expect unreasonable responses from the army.

He’s a neutral party seeing as he only cares about NBA basketball, but he agreed with Cahill’s call.

There was some very minor controversy during the Syracuse-UConn game on Wednesday night.

After securing an offensive rebound and a new shot clock, Scoop Jardine drove to the rim instead of pulling it back out to run clock. As Jardine neared the rim, Jim Boeheim called for a timeout, and it was granted. The timeout was clearly requested when Jardine had possession of the ball, but it was not granted until Jardine had released the ball.

In my judgment, it was an incredibly difficult situation for an official to call. Basketball is the only game I know of where you can call timeout when the ball is in play.

Here is what I would do were the czar of the rules: I would change the timeout rules in college basketball to mirror international rules, where timeouts may only be called during a dead ball, and after a basket is scored, only by the team gaining possession and not by the scoring team. Once the ball is in play, timeouts should not be allowed.

Reasonable minds can differ, and some coaches would argue that they want to call timeout when they don’t like something they see in their offensive possession, but does that not punish the better-played or better-prepared defense on that possession?