Scoop Jardine: Pitt is Dirty & Other Bon Mots
by sieg44 on Nov 9, 2010 9:36 AM EST
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PrintThe newest edition of ESPN Magazine (w/Duke on the cover) includes a College Basketball Preview:
It's been out for a few days now but I don't recall seeing anyone mention it yet. Probably because we've all been caught up in the improvements to the Football program.
CBB Confidential: Big East (Need ESPN insider) For those without insider, keep reading
The article is titled: " College Basketball Confidential" apparently surveying 170 college bball players from around the country. if you skip ahead to page 75 you'll find the Big East preview that includes things such as Jim Boeheim being voted best coach 44.4% (obviously) & DickieV saying Fab Melo will be Big East Freshman of the year & then a special little blurb from our boy Scoop:
VOICE OF THE CONFERENCE:
Who better than a player to provide insight on his league? Syracuse G Scoop Jardine has some word-association fun with the teams of the Big East.
CINCINNATI - Always a fight. They're a defensive team.
UCONN - Boeheim vs. Calhoun, that's a rivalry.
DePAUL - We took them lightly last year and barely won. It's a trap game.
G-TOWN - Must-win. It'll be easier without Greg Monroe.
LOUISVILLE - They closed their old arena with a win against us. We want a win at their new place.
MARQUETTE - Darius Johnson-Odom is my friend. I guarantee a win because he can't beat me at anything.
NOTRE DAME - A lot of shooters and a lot of pick-and-roll.
PITT - They play dirty, and the refs allow it.
PROVIDENCE - They let us score because they want to score.
RUTGERS - I love Mike Rice. He'll have them ready to play.
ST. JOHN'S - They've got nine seniors. It's going to be a battle to see who the No. 1 team in New York is.
SETON HALL - Inconsistent. They can beat you by 20 one night and lose by 20 the next.
SOUTH FLORIDA - A great trip because when we go there, there is a bunch of snow on the ground in Syracuse.
SYRACUSE - Electrifying. We've got guys who can get out and run and a Hall of Fame coach.
VILLANOVA - We beat them last year in front of our largest ever home crowd. They're looking for payback.
WVa - Hard to beat because they deny the wing so well.
Word of Scoop's comments has made it's way around the big east, here are some links I came across:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: Pitt players to Scoop: 'We're not dirty; we're just physical'
Pantherlair.com: Does Pitt play dirty or physical?
Cardiac Hill: Dirty Vs. Physical - The Great Debate
Panther Digest.com: Scoop Jardine says Pitt plays dirty
Pitt Script: Syracuse Guard Calls Pitt "Dirty"
Casual Hoya: Must-win. It'll be easier without Greg Monroe
MUScoop.com: Friendly Smacktalk in ESPN the Mag from Scoop Jardine
Seems like Pitt fans are the most upset, but who cares, they're Pitt fans, they too are dirty.
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DIrty vs. Physical
I always have been a fan of defense and physical play in all my sports. But there is a fine line between Ronnie Lott and Bill Romanowski.
Overall I would set Pitt closer to the Lott end of the spectrum, but there are certainly games when they dip into the Romo side.
Go Orange(men)!
Pitt, of course,
is just the team we can afford to give bulletin-board material to, given our recent success against them haha
Seriously, though, I like this. I think Scoop’s primed for a big year.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
watched pitt last night
And as much as I want to diss Pitt as well (I still hate Karl krauser) I can’t say I saw anything or can even remember anything over the years that was “dirty.” I think they just play solid, physical, defense. That’s just life in the big east and that’s just how Pitt plays. They’re actually a lot like a big ten team. But, we’re not the ones out on the floor so maybe scoop knows some things we don’t. Either way, that physical play is what’s gotten Pitt to all those final fours over the years…. oh that’s right
SHASHASHAA!!!
by RustyShackleford on Nov 9, 2010 10:09 AM EST reply actions
Scoop was being polite
If he had decided to be honest, his word associations would have looked like this:
CINCINNATI – randoms
UCONN – criminals
DePAUL – irrelevant
G-TOWN – pure-evil
LOUISVILLE – 15 seconds!
MARQUETTE – snaggle-toothed chicks
NOTRE DAME – vanilla
PITT – dirty
PROVIDENCE – horrendous D
RUTGERS – see Providence
ST. JOHN’S – so much Chipoltle
SETON HALL – Dumbo ears
SOUTH FLORIDA – meh
SYRACUSE – Electrifying
VILLANOVA – Annoying
WVA – Nice tracksuit, Huggs
"Size matters. At least in basketball." - James Arthur Boeheim
by Bernie Fine is the Man on Nov 9, 2010 10:28 AM EST reply actions
NOTRE DAME – vanilla
**FREE FreeBradshaw***
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with Scoop
Not so much that they are “dirty,” but they play overly physical and the Big East refs are too gutless to call fouls when necessary. Basketball isn’t football, but you’d never know it from watching Pitt. It’s why Pitt flames out every year in the NCAA Tournament, no matter how highly ranked they are. As soon as they run into an officiating crew from another conference, they are crippled by foul trouble and lose, because their ridiculously over the top physical style is not allowed.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
As soon as they run into an officiating crew from another conference, they are crippled by foul trouble and lose
I’ve made that statement the basis of every tournament bracket I’ve made where Pitt is ranked highly. Guaranteed to never reach the Final Four. They don’t play dirty so much as very chippy, and the constant bumps, pushes, shoves, and reach-ins gets very old when they get away with it all the time.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 9, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
It’s basically a Pat Riley when he was coaching the Knicks philosophy. Bump and grab every cutter, be physical on the ball and hand check when you can, off the ball do not allow your man to move without placing a body on him, slow the game down, and take your opponent out of any kind of offensive flow. It’s been very effective against SU — and most of Pitt’s opponents as they’ve been very successful, but when refs call a game tight, Pitt runs into trouble. It is also a brutal brand of basketball to watch.
The big question
is whether you’d rather watch Pitt basketball or Big 10 basketball? Of course in a couple years they’ll probably be the same thing.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Nov 9, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think
that’s a push, especially considering Greg Robinson’s defense gives up more points than John Beilen’s………
Yeah I guess dirty might be too strong a word
But they grab and hold and take shots at you and never get called for it by the refs.
After checking out those links from Pitt fans
I can’t wait to face them this year. I hope our boys come ready to play, I wanna embarrass them.
No more rtirring, you guys
I’m sick of all this rtirring.
/andI’mdone
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That arena
led to the funniest random moments in recent SU basketball history this side of Paul Harris’ popcorn grab…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xXop4gOysQ
Totally jackass move, totally hilarious as a Syracuse fan, and totally justified given that South Florida had basically ruined their season the year before.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Nov 9, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Look out, Scoop..
Snitches get stitches.
by Jasper Mannequin on Nov 9, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
RUTGERS – I love Mike Rice.
Personally, I enjoy Mike Rice as a side to a nice cut of Fred Hill Turmoil Steak.
by Rocket Ship Science on Nov 9, 2010 5:25 PM EST reply actions
I AM A CRAIG NASTY
Especially after seeing that picture.
It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.
by Girardi Party on Nov 10, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
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