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Syracuse 13, South Florida 9: The Curse Of Greg Robinson Died Today

It wasn't always pretty. Okay, it mostly wasn't pretty. There were a lot of penalties and special team gaffes, as usual. The Orange offense sputtered at times. Ryan Nassib wasn't always on the mark and his receiver did him no favors with dropped balls. There were mental errors and issues that need fine tuning and correction. There were plenty of mistakes.

But at the end of the day, Syracuse won. And they did so against a Big East team. And that Big East team was favored by double-digits earlier this week. And Syracuse had never beaten that Big East team before. And that win legitimized everything that had happened so far this season for the Orange. And that win put them, however briefly, in first-place in the conference. And that win, their fourth on the season, put them in a great position to qualify for a bowl game.

Think about this. The Orange have four wins. In 2005, they did not reach that mark. In 2006, it took them eleven games to get there. In 2007, they did not reach that. In 2008, they did not reach it either. In 2009, it took them eleven games again.

In 2010, it took them five games to get there.

While this is happening, the University of Michigan is in the middle of a conundrum. They're 5-1, but they're in trouble. As shown this weekend in their 34-17 loss to Michigan State, their defense is broken. It has been all season. It's a shame because their offense has some amazing weapons. It's enough to remind folks of the 2003 Kansas City Chiefs. So loaded on offense that they finished the year 13-3, the Chiefs were undone by their miserable defense that never corrected its many problems. Both teams have something in common...Greg Robinson. The same guy responsible for all those crappy aforementioned Syracuse seasons. Now, Michigan fans are calling for Robinson's head in his second season in a turn of events so predictable, I wish I could have put all of my assets and possessions on 10-1 odds that it would happen.

That Robinson's meltdown at Michigan and Syracuse's revival are happening at the exact same moment is no coincidence. Say what you will of curses, karma and omens, but you can't help but notice it. The spector of Greg Robinson continued to hang over this program for two years since he was let loose. Doug Marrone has moved heaven, Earth and more than a few unwilling football players off the team in order to correct the many mistakes in Gregger's wake. For a while there, you started to wonder if he could truly wipe the slate clean and start returning SU to its rightful place.

The job isn't done. Not by a longshot. But its safe to say that for the first time, Syracuse fans feel the Greg Robinson Era is behind us.

The Syracuse-USF series was a perfect metaphor for the GRE. We started playing in 2005, when Robinson took over. He never beat them in his four years. This start-up program that didn't even exist when Syracuse won a national title or when Dick MacPherson was leading the Orange to Sugar Bowls and 10-win seasons, dominated us in a way that just didn't seem logical.  Last season, Doug Marrone hadn't yet removed the stench of Robinson and the Orange lost still.

Finally, now with the program actually moving in the right direction, they defeated the Bulls and ended a streak that represented everything terrible about the Greg Robinson Era.  All the while, Robinson's shortcomings become too much to bear at Michigan where, for some reason, they found him a suitable replacement for Scott Shafer. Shafer, meanwhile, is the brilliant defensive architect of that Syracuse win over South Florida and is en route to becoming a head coach himself within the next three years.

Maybe "curse" is the wrong word. The Orange weren't cursed by Greg Robinson. But he did leave behind an impending sense of dread. That things will always go wrong. That is over now.

As for where we go from here, who knows. There isn't a team in the Big East that scares us. Boston College doesn't scare us either. The sky is the limit, except when we're in the Dome and then the Dome ceiling is the limit. But you get my point. I don't know how many games we're going to win this year, but we're already back on the road that Syracuse football is supposed to be on. There may come a day soon when we don't go insane because we beat USF. We reserve that for winning conference titles and bowl games. But until then, we'll appreciate every win. And the knowledge that the Greg Robinson Era truly died this weekend.

Star-divide

Syracuse vs South Florida Recap: The Sunny Side...Brent Axe

Syracuse vs South Florida Recap: The Dark Side...Brent Axe

Syracuse vs South Florida Recap: This, That, and The Other Thing...Brent Axe

Syracuse defense smothers South Florida quarterback B.J. Daniels in game's key matchup...Dave Rahme

Orange checks South Florida off list of teams it needs to beat with 13-9 win in Tampa...Nolan Weidner

Orange running back Delone Carter passes Syracuse University legend with 105-yard effort...Nolan Weidner

Kickoff return ignited South Florida, but the feeling soon fizzled in loss to Syracuse football team...Dave Rahme

DRIVE THROUGH: Syracuse marches full field for breakout Big East win, holds off USF...Daily Orange

Lamar's 94-yard TD return wasn't enough...Greg Auman

What We Learned In The Big East: Take Syracuse Seriously...Brian Bennett

Don't look now, but the 'Cuse is loose!...CFT

Sunny day for SU at South Florida

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"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Oct 10, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

greggers

yes we all know that greggers is a horrible coach and ruined our program and we’ll all root against him, but i hope yesterday ends our obsession with him. yesterday was our biggest win in years and yet people were/are still talking about greg. shouldn’t we spend our time talking about this year’s team which should make a bowl, re-energize the dome, and maybe even content for a BE title?

by cuse 04 on Oct 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

*contend for a BE title

by cuse 04 on Oct 10, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, the privilege of not having Greg Robinson still torturing you. I will feel better when he’s not associated with any of my teams.

by Orange22 on Oct 10, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It’s similar to LSU. They can’t get over Saban. With his ‘Bama championship, it made everything that much more tense because the fans can’t get over the fact that he’s at a rival(and doing very well).

With SU, it’s kinda the other way around. We haven’t been able to get over Greggers. For whatever reason, we hated what he did here and want him to completely fail elsewhere, just because of what he did here. I think with a win like this, we will slowly stop noticing him and once he’s gone from Michigan we won’t even mention his name.

by actioncuse on Oct 10, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard to move on from Greggers...

…only because he was SO FUCKING AWFUL.

But I certainly get your point. I’m “past” him in a way, but in a way I’ll root against him until he stops coaching simply because he ran my beloved alma mater’s football team into the frigging ground. Such is my capacity to hold grudges.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Oct 10, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't help with the whole trying to get over him whenever you visit syracuse.com

I wonder how many of those commentors will continue to defend G-Rob > Marrone after this week.

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Oct 10, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went on there for the first time in months yesterday...

…and immediately remembered why I left. I wonder if that jesinhb person is still on there defending Grob. He/she must have been a family member.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Oct 10, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ignore them

As if they’re like most of the folks who inhabit syracuse.com their reason d’etre is say stupid stuff to rile people up

by jpb531 on Oct 10, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

crowd on sat

i know i just said we shouldn’t talk about greggers anymore….but the last dome crowd over 45k was for greggers first game in 2005. would be VERY disappointed if there isn’t 45k+ on saturday. i was so pumped after the win on saturday i bought tickets, and i live 5 hours away

by cuse 04 on Oct 10, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

/standing applause

The team needs a full house Sat.

Perhaps a “magician” inspired rally?

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Oct 10, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I think the Minnesota game had that many last year, although you may be right. Either way, we need it to be over 45,000 THIS Saturday!

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Oct 10, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

you’re right. stupid me, just feels like forever since there’s been a big football game at the dome

by cuse 04 on Oct 10, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penn State in 2008 was a near-sellout

although it was at least half Penn State fans, and I forgot the exact figure.

It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.

by Girardi Party on Oct 10, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a while there

were some Michigan fans trolling syracuse.com. They seemed pretty pissed we hired their former D Coordinator.

by ryanwk628 on Oct 11, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

just my nature to root against guys like that for the rest of my life. I’m still bitter about Rob Johnson, and always will be.

Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10

by PoetryInMoten on Oct 11, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's OK to root against Robinson forever

the man robbed of 4 years of competitive football. I enjoy watching him fail, because he brought all SU fans so much misery. If that makes me a bad guy, than I’m a bad guy, and I’m OK with that.

by Russianator on Oct 11, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

As criticial as I have been of the f-ball team

let me make this abundantly clear. I completely stand behind Marrone as the coach. The difference in play between now and just two years ago is tremendous.

And we still talk about G-Rob because that Michigan defense has become a train wreck that you just can not take your eyes off of.

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Oct 10, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

A train wreck that just plowed through an orphanage and looks to be headed for a school for bunnies.....

abayarde- "Sunday the Whagon BLASTER IS taking of and the GODZILLA IS IN IT . EVERY BODY AND EVERYTHING IN THE WAY will be CRUSH, VANISH , NON EXISTENCE, PULLVERISE, DESINTEGRADED, The Force is stronger than EVER . THE JEDI IS READY, TO FACE the Dark side."

by WABillsfan on Oct 12, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice read

There will be no battle fatigue in my command

by psu in the w-b on Oct 10, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

This Michigan football fan

officially rescinds his numerous defenses of GERG in these parts over the last 6 weeks or so.

It's the most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years.

by Girardi Party on Oct 10, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, it's okay

as a fellow yankee fan, I forgive ya. I mean, that G-Rob hair can be mystifying…

/virtual bro hug

Go Orange(men)!

by SUmonkey on Oct 10, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

winning

It’s nice to remember what that feels llike when cheering for the football team. Looking forward to being in the Dome on Sat.

by orangefan6 on Oct 10, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen

Well, well, well said.

Two years ago when we saw the USC game on the schedule the thought of beating them was ludicrous……now – not so much.

In Doug We Trust.

by Russianator on Oct 11, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I cant help but remember

the exact moment I lost hope in GRob. It was not a cuse game. We were in the midst of our second crappy season. ESPN was showing the NFL films program about the Denver Broncos super bowl. It was the end of the game. Denver is on defense to stop the other team. They show Greg running around literally screaming “what should I do?!?” He runs up the Shanahon who grabs him and goes “Greg, just do what we always do.”

Instant face-palm.

That was the moment the light went off. Syracuse didnt get some amazing steal of a coach. There was a reason this guy with the amazing resume was never a HC. He didnt have any leadership qualities.

by ryanwk628 on Oct 11, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Go back

and watch the Gameday piece from 2 years ago. Brown makes the comments that made me smile: “You can have limited talent and make good tackles, make hard hits, etc.”

Everything he says in that piece is starting to show up in this team, and it made me excited again for Cuse football.

Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10

by PoetryInMoten on Oct 11, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

There may come a day soon when we don’t go insane because we beat USF. We reserve that for winning conference titles and bowl games. But until then, we’ll appreciate every win. And the knowledge that the Greg Robinson Era truly died this weekend.

I tried to explain this to my girlfriend. She’s an Ohio State fan and doesn’t understand how something like this, a win that looks so teeny-tiny, can be so huge to Syracuse fans. I told her that some day we will expect to beat teams like USF. But this year, any Big East win, especially the first, is HUGE.

by voteprime on Oct 11, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

It wasn't a curse, it was a stench on 'Cuse that GR left on us

abayarde- "Sunday the Whagon BLASTER IS taking of and the GODZILLA IS IN IT . EVERY BODY AND EVERYTHING IN THE WAY will be CRUSH, VANISH , NON EXISTENCE, PULLVERISE, DESINTEGRADED, The Force is stronger than EVER . THE JEDI IS READY, TO FACE the Dark side."

by WABillsfan on Oct 12, 2010 2:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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