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DeTalkin' DePaul

The No.4 Syracuse Orange take on the DePaul Blue Demons on Saturday in Chicago.  Expectations what they are, this one isn't inspiring quite the same emotional response that the Georgetown game did.  The Blue Demons are 8-12 and en route to another disappointing season in the Big East.  This isn't the DePaul that crushed Syracuse 108–69 in 2006.

So what's the heck is going on over there?  I spoke with John Templon over at Chicago College Basketball to get a feel for what the Orange can expect on Saturday as well as what DePaul is up against as a program and as a member of the Big East. (My answers to his questions can be found here).

DePaul, DePaul, DePaul...what the heck happened? You were an NCAA Tournament team as recently as '04 and a post-season qualifier as recently as '07. How did it get so bad so quickly?

Things went downhill for DePaul for 2 reasons. 1) The Blue Demons joined the Big East with a coach (Jerry Wainwright) that wasn't prepared to recruit at a Big East talent level. 2) Wilson Chandler, who was an excellent collegiate player, left after his sophomore season - and that aforementioned NIT bid. Those two things really have hurt the program. Now players are leaving for no apparent reason (see Dar Tucker) and the lack of talent is really being exposed. The players that are there really do hustle, but beyond Mac Koshwal there's no true Big East talent on the roster and no legitimate point guard for any level. Koshwal's injury and the injury to Michael Bizoukas, who could've been a decent player this season, have really hurt DePaul.

Quite simply, how does DePaul get better? And if they don't, do you fear that the Big East will say goodbye?

In order for DePaul to get better they have to find more talent. You can't win in the Big East without talent. Schools like Syracuse and Villanova are consistently bringing in NBA-quality players and in order to compete with them you have to have players with similar skill sets. Thus, raising the level of recruiting is imperative for DePaul as it tries to get back into the Big East race. The interesting thing about the Big East is that there is a somewhat soft underbelly in which to work if you've got some players. With 16 teams there are always going to be a few that are down. The problem is that DePaul's been down ever since it joined the conference. We'll see how the off-season goes, but if DePaul doesn't make the commitment to bring in a coach that recruit the Chicago area and is a proven winner I think I'll begin to worry about the school's place in the Big East.

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Does the Marquette win give this program new life or does it look like it was more of a lucky break?

The Marquette win was a lucky break over a team that doesn't seem to have any luck this season. Still, it was also some parts hard work. DePaul played very good defense early in the season. The Blue Demons guarded everyone and made it tough for them to get baskets. As the season progressed, and the losses mounted, that defensive tenacity seemed to run out. When Tracy Webster replaced Jerry Wainwright the fire seemed to be lit underneath some of the players again. Sometimes they're just way over-matched athletically on the court, but if the Blue Demons can slow the pace down and grind with teams, then they might be able to use the "Marquette blueprint" again.

Tracy Webster, currently the interim coach after Jerry Wainwright was fired. Can he be a long-term solution or does DePaul need to bring in "a name?"

I think DePaul is going to have to bring in "a name" to be the next head coach. Unless Webster was to run off a shocking string of wins during the end of the Big East schedule or make a deep run at Madison Square Garden in the Big East Tournament, this is nothing more than an audition for future gigs. He's never been a head coach even though he's work under some of the most respected names in the Midwest and DePaul needs a real shot in the arm. The worry is that none of those "names" will want to come to Lincoln Park. Dayton's Brian Gregory has rejected the overtures of the Blue Demons a few times before. If DePaul ends up with someone like Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery will that be enough? It's hard to say.

If DePaul is going to have any chance against Syracuse, which players are going to have to make it happen?

There is no one on DePaul's roster that can drive into the middle of the Syracuse zone. One player that might be able to do some damage if he can catch on the wing is Devin Hill. His tendency to spot-up and shoot jump shots and not go to the rim at 6'9" drives me insane, but he's got the right skill set to maybe bother the zone. Of course Will Walker will have to have a great shooting night in order for DePaul to stay in the game. Also, this might be more a statement about the program than anything else, but two walk-ons: Nate Rogers and Ryan Siggins, might be DePaul's 2nd and 3rd best shooters. They could see more playing time than usual against the Orange.

Thanks to John for taking the time.  Keep an eye on Chicago College Basketball for updates.

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" a great shooting night " ?

The game is at 2. I know this is dumb but I’ve always wondered why coaches and players say that. It could be a noon game and afterward players and coaches say things like “we shot the ball well tonight” or “we got on the boards tonight” or “we played great defense tonight” or…okay, I’m done with that. Is it just habit because the majority are at night or are they just so consumed by shutting it down- or trying to shut it down if they’re not Syracuse- that they’ve lost all meaningful concept of time?

Go Orange.

by AndyKinsella on Jan 29, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Luckily,

one can Shut It Down at any hour of the day with no worries.

by voteprime on Jan 29, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that game going to be on TV?

by ryanwk628 on Jan 29, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

Big East Network

so here’s to hoping that the Boston ABC affiliate picks it up, as they usually do.

For some reason, I’m as amped about this game as any other. Something about a midday game… it’s not a Noon game, not a Primetime game… on a beyond frozen Saturday in the middle of winter, on the road in a depressing environment, where all the other team wants to do is slow it down and run out the clock… it just makes me think that there’s a possibility that the team and fans could sleepwalk through it.

The way I see it, this is another great opportunity for this SU team to differentiate themselves from ’Cuse teams past and place a stake in the ground that says they are an exception. Which would BE and MAKE THEM exceptional.

by TheRenegadePumpkin on Jan 29, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

it won't be depressing for those of us that are going

Cuse fans might outnumber the depaul crowd at what should be a cavernous allstate arena, or at least be more vocal. The alumni club sold out their blocks, we got 40 nations, ready to roll son! I am kind of nervous going to it. I do not want to be embarrassed for any reason by a collapse, because seriously they are not even close to being a mediocre team right now. They are chuckers, but chuckers that don’t make shots. The zone should extend out on them all day, and AO and Rick should be discouraging most attempts in the paint.

…and the Miss shall be doing my laundry and cleaning for me because of this game.

G’Orange!

I will try to bring you all some goodies (video) from the game as well, in HD!

"It's not drinking alone if you is on webcam, remember that!"

by chicagocuse on Jan 29, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite part of that comment
…and the Miss shall be doing my laundry and cleaning for me because of this game.

by TheRenegadePumpkin on Jan 29, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet

Have fun. Make noise.

Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician - The Syracuse blog that cares.

by Sean Keeley on Jan 29, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

WOOO

I will be at this game! (Chicagocuse who are you?!) I can’t wait. Although I was also at the 2006 fiasco and always get a little nervous about DePaul—-or should I say, DePTSD. I will be making noise especially for you, Sean!

by MrsOtto1313 on Jan 29, 2010 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

I am everyone, yet I am no one (sorry i had a couple gumballheads at lunch)

I’ll be sitting in section 211, row E. I might be the drunk guy, if that narrows it down.

"It's not drinking alone if you is on webcam, remember that!"

by chicagocuse on Jan 29, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Bonus points for

TNIAAM commenter combo-photos

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by Sean Keeley on Jan 29, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

can those points be redeemed?

we’ll try to make it happen

"It's not drinking alone if you is on webcam, remember that!"

by chicagocuse on Jan 29, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Does that mean the front row of the student section can redeem the 100s of photos of us for something? A lot of us comment here.

by Orange22 on Jan 29, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'll have to set up a redemption case

like at the Jersey Shore boardwalk.

It starts with kazoos and we’ll work our way up to a 40" TV from 1997.

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by Sean Keeley on Jan 30, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

i feel like those photos

are definitely worth less points than when alums in distant cities can make a connection

by chrisbee13 on Jan 30, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Aces

I will be in Section 202 row C—-rockin’ the “800” tee. I could go for some silly string and a kazoo—-and I WILL be bringing a camera. Balls in your court buddy!

by MrsOtto1313 on Jan 29, 2010 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

I will be rocking the classic ‘rock the loud house’ tee with an orange SU hat. If all else fails my seat number in the aforementioned section/row is 24. See you there.

"It's not drinking alone if you is on webcam, remember that!"

by chicagocuse on Jan 30, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

How romantic!

"Grind now, shine later." - Wesley Johnson

by Afino on Jan 30, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

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