Even with the loss to Minnesota, 6-6 for SU?
Taking stock of the Big East and SU's play this past weekend, we just might have a better shot at a bowl than we originally thought. First of all, we looked serviceable.
Pros: Paulus is clearly no gimmick, but a solid leader with a better arm than people were predicting. Our running-backs look strong (not a surprise however). Mike Williams dropped a couple, but I like to think that won't last. And our defense got after people. Aside from big plays to Decker, the D really stepped up. Running the ball proved difficult for the Gophers and our line was able to get pretty good pressure throughout the game.
Cons: Our OL, while not as bad as I feared they'd be, was not all that great. Paulus had to scramble more often than he should have and our running-backs usually had to work for their yards. Lemon looked ok, but really, aside from Williams, our receivers aren't scary. Mike Owen didn't impress and with Provo hurt, our TE situation is iffy. Having quality TEs would do wonders for the other receivers. Holmes is the real deal, but it remains to be seen just how good anyone else on the secondary is ready to be.
If we were gonna win 6 (or even 5) games, Minnesota had to be one of those wins. That was the thinking before this weekend I feel. Well, that may still prove true, but I think I like our odds a bit more now. If we beat Akron and Maine (and after seeing the team in action I think we will) that means we need 4 wins between Northwestern and the Big East (we aren't beating Penn State, so I'm not even counting them).
Northwest crushed Towson, but that doesn't tell us much. Still, to be conservative about it, let's mark it down as a loss for now. That means 4 Big East wins would be necessary to have bowl hope. Cincinnati looks like the class of the conference, so that's a loss. South Florida could have a letdown game or two, but they play us early, so that too is probably a loss. But I think we have a shot at the rest of the teams.
Louisville may have won, but they didn't look good doing it against a crappy Indiana St. I still think we can beat them.
Rutgers shit the bed against Cincy. Sure Cincy seems the class of the conference, but they still aren't Florida or USC. Very few people mentioned Rutgers as a possible win for us before this weekend, but I think they are back in that mix.
Connecticut is probably better than us, but they didn't blow up Ohio (did anyone see it?) and I think we can hang with them.
Pittsburgh should beat us, but they only played Youngstown St and from what I heard they struggled. It doesn't show on the scoreboard, but can anyone confirm that Pitt did not look all that great? If there is truth in them not looking strong, I can't write them off as a loss just yet.
West Virginia should beat us. They probably should have beat Liberty by more than 13 though. And we usually seem to play them tough (emphasis on usually). And they travel to the Dome this year. I'm not saying we will win, but I won't be completely surprised if we do.
All that said, there are a lot of variables. Are there more wrinkles to the Stallion or did we see what it has to offer? If so, teams can lock it down. Does Paulus have the poise to minimize mistakes like his interception? INTs will happen, but ones like his in OT are easily avoided. Will the receivers and TEs start catching more balls? Paulus had 4 or 5 good first down passes dropped Saturday. Those need to go away fast if we wanna win close games. Can we get third down under control? Like dropped passes, 1-12 on 3rd down ain't gonna get it done. Will the defensive intensity stay up? I think it will. The D looked like a well trained group who is gonna get after the ball and hurt people. The secondary and LBs might be suspect, but I think overall the D looks strong enough to keep us in games if not win them for us.
After taking stock of all that, I don't think it's unreasonable, at this point, to say that we might have a shot at 5 wins. And a shot at 5 wins means there will probably be an unexpected close game somewhere that we could steal. Akron and Maine are must wins obviously. So too are Louisville and Rutgers I think. The problem there is that Louisville and Rutgers both come near the end of our schedule, so the damage may be done before we even get to them. If all goes well though, UConn at the end of the year is a huge (and winnable) game.
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I dont know
I’m still sticking to 5 games. I actually believe 5 is possibly more than ever now. 6 would be pushing it, but I only think we are going to get better from here. We looked good but still have to improve tremendously the way we played in the 2nd half on D. Even if our offense got in field goal range every time we would’ve won the game. Hopefully Marrone will keep the troops focused…
For the record I think 6 is pushing it myself.
But I am willing to hold onto it as a possibility whereas beforehand I didn’t think 6 wins was all that possible.
O-Line
I actually didn’t think the O-Line was all that bad in the passing game. Paulus had a little case of happy feet and if his first read wasn’t open, he panicked a little even though the pocket was still there instead of making progressions through his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th reads. As far as the O-Line in the running game, I’m not sure what to make of it. They weren’t opening many holes, but it also seemed like PSU was stacking the box most of the time, shutting down the run and forcing Paulus to beat them. We’ll see how they progress through the year I suppose.
by shandeezy7 on Sep 8, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dont read too much
into the first week of the season. Teams are still working out the kinks.
Dont get down on Forrest, no one has moves like Anderson Silva.
I do like aggressive football
but will Paulus saying “We were aggressive, we want to be aggressive all the time, trying to play mistake free football, that’s not what we’re trying to do.” It is a bit scary but I still love the mentality of “playing to win” instead of “playing not to lose” like in years past.
True.
But that includes us. And I think the Rutgers point sticks out the most to me. I didn’t think they’d be all that good, but I also didn’t think they’d be getting rolled so badly by Cincy. It seems they might be plenty beatable. If we can feel good about beating both them and Louisville, along with Akron and Maine, that gives us 4 wins. And between Pittsburgh, West Virginia and UConn I feel like we will have one or two tight games. Maybe even all three will be tight. I have to think as we work out our kinks we will win, or at least not actively lose, games like Minnesota which means a tight win against a better opponent or two isn’t out of the question.
I love how the mood has completely changed
Can you imagine anyone having such optimistic thoughts after a loss last year? Heck, last season when we did win, all we could think about is how it wouldn’t last and we’d lose the next one. This change is amazing.
http://cusecountry.com
It is interesting.
I think the biggest change for me is the defense and the attitude. I know the offense has talent, but it had it last year too. They seemed to have a moxy on Saturday that I hadn’t seen for awhile. And the defense, while perhaps not spectacular as far the secondary is concerned, is playing much harder. They clearly have been trained well and seem to have more fire than in recent years. Oh and the team seems to be actually be conditioned. I am thinking specifically of Carter’s OT run where he broke three tackles and dragged another player before going down. I may be too optimistic, but I don’t think it’s crazy to be optimistic right now.
5 and 7
if paulus has some hot games and the offense line can do a credible job at blocking. and if our 2 halfbacks can also have some hot games.lets be honest, the talent at offensive line, as usual, is just not there. and as far as the secondary- the hot shot gopher reciever, would not even start at ND- their 2 guys are amazing, as well as their tight end. which brings up to carter, not exactly a all conference talent at te. unfortunatley, marrone has to deal with grobs lackluster choice of talent. and considering he was competing and losing to mac teams, as well as trying to recruit that level of talent, we are gonna be lucky to pull out 5 wins.the good news, is the only 2 real power teams in big east are gonna b e south florida and cinci. and this is not the nfl, its not about cloner offenses with statue qbs..standing in the pocket , making reads" number 1,2,3,4. as far as any wild rebel" /arkansas formation stuff- u are gonna see rodriques i bet, as usual, come up with a new florish, namely both his hot shot freshman qbs in the game at the same time. both are quick, forcier is maybe better thrower, but the florida kids/ speed is astounding.. 4.32 for the 40.gonna be a 2 headed run /throw monster.. if u will.. 2 opton qbs in same formation.. now thats new unique thinking, that wins games.. not just copy catting the arkansas formations couple of years later.. as the cheezy mindless nfl types are wont to do as usual. it always amazes me that they recycle the same bad news coaches time after time ..
juco talent?
and i am not a football genius like most of the uber iq rocket scientist types on this post area, but i do think marrone should try and recruit more talent from juco colleges in ca. they play a very high level of football, and academic wise, its ca, school system, they have majority of maturity and academic problems behind them, and have got 2 years of football experience.. allready at college level.. i know some colleges actively recruit the juco talent in ca..




























