Welcome Back, Flamerica University
No Syracuse football team has ever defeated a South Florida football team. Ever. Not in the hundred years that we've been doing this.
It's true. Science and all. In fact, we've never scored more than 13 against USF and they've never scored less than 27, breaking the 40+ point barrier 50% of the time they play us.
Okay, so they've only been doing this for a couple decades and we've only been playing each other since 2004. But still...it's not exactly one of the top bullet points on our resume (for college football program jobs?).
USF comes to town this weekend as both teams open Big East play. Things are a little different than the last time we played. Greg Robinson and Matt Grothe are no longer involved, and both are a good thing for SU fans. The question is...can we actually win?
So before we get started, I really need to repeat this paragraph that I noted last year from Wikipedia. It truly is the gift that keeps giving:
USF was founded in 1956. However, the university was not officially named until the following year, and courses did not start until 1960. Some of the original proposed names included "Citrus State University", "Sunshine State University," "The University of the Western Hemisphere," "Ponce de Leon University," "Flamerica University," and "The University of Florida at Temple Terrace."
Sadly, they've removed the Flamerica mention from the current write-up. Possibly because it was untrue but more likely because it would have meant that everyone could see they almost called the place FLAMERICA UNIVERSITY. (They're all great name choices though, aren't they?)
So USF beat Florida State last weekend 17-7. In Tallahassee. Without Grothe. The merits of beating 2009 FSU are up for debate but this was such a big win for the program, Jim Leavitt looked to quantum physics to explain it's impact:
"It changes history."
I know what he means, but then again...I don't.
The win was so big the Bulls were named the Tostitos National Team of the Week, whatever the hell that means. While they're still not ranked in the AP (though they are in this Power Ranking Top 25), the Bulls are once again on the verge of storming the national landscape just like they did a few years back.
But a few years back, and every year it seems, the Bulls faded once Big East play started up. As ESPN's Brian Bennett shows us, they're the Mr. September of college football:
- 2007: The Bulls started 6-0, with a monumental win at Auburn. That start, though, was followed by three straight losses and a Big East record of 4-3. Final record: 9-4.
- 2008: USF began the year 5-0, including a thrilling last-second win over Kansas. That start was followed by a 1-4 stretch and a 2-5 league campaign. Final record: 8-5.
B.J. Daniels will attempt to do what Matt Grothe couldn't. Push the Bulls past that first layer of success and into the next level. The Bulls went to the Sun Bowl in 2007 but got crushed. Last year they settled for the St. Pete Bowl. This year they'll have the chance to push their way through to next level. Gator Bowl? BCS Bowl? All possible, given the state of the Big East.
Of course, it starts with Syracuse this weekend. USF might have opened the door into becoming one of the guys at the table in Florida and they might have become one of the Big East's better programs, but it's all about what you've done lately that will define USF this season. We're no Florida State but, you know, we are 2-2. Perhaps you guys heard about that.
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I'm very worried...
…about USF’s front 7. I’m also very worried about our defensive secondary. And that Daniels kid scares the hell out of me. That being said, hopefully we can hang with them. A packed Dome would help…you know, something better than the pathetic turnout we had for the Maine game. If I lived locally, I’d go to every damned game. But I digress…
If we can get SOME kind of running game going, and if we can SOMEHOW hold the Bulls QB to under 350 yards of combined offensive yardage, then we have a chance. But going back to my earlier point…49,000 in the Dome would go a long way towards helping out the cause, at least in terms of home-field advantage standpoint.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
This won't be an easy game, but there are some reasons to have a hint of hope.
1) The FSU game is arguably their biggest game all year. The Big East games matter, don’t get me wrong, but that game may very well shift recruiting in their favor. Florida is the cream of the Sunshine State crop, but that number two spot in terms of success and recruiting seems up for grabs right now. This was a big game for that. So they were probably amped for this game more than any other on their schedule before the season.
2) BJ Daniels may have been in that “hometown zone” athletes often get into. I’m guessing FSU didn’t quite give him the love either, so that probably gave him extra motivation to stick it to them. There really isn’t any of that motivation against us.
3) They play Cincinnati after us. If we almost got trapped looking at USF, they could definitely get trapped looking at Cincy. That will be the game of the year in the Big East most likely and we just struggled with Maine. They probably aren’t worried about us terribly. If that happens and we can pull far enough ahead early, our team has the moxie to hold on (after learning from the Minny game). The key will be our guys being completely ready to strike right away.
I still pencil this in as a loss, but I won’t write if completely off yet either. As kotite said, a packed Dome could go a long way.
Question
So USF was founded in 1956 but didn’t start courses until 1960? Can I just ask what they were doing for four years?
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