Can we please Man-up the Orange?
by puredmashie on Jul 3, 2009 4:17 PM EDT
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there was a time before our chancellor, nancy cantor emasculated the orangemen to its now, more politically correct nickname. was anyone really offended that we had orangemen and orangewomen athltetes? are there any co-ed varsity sports which would require a unisex nickname? i can't think of any. i'm not asking for the saltine warrior to be reinstated; some american natives have said they are offended by that mascot, and i can respect that. but we have men's and women's rooms in the carrier dome, not "rooms". can't we just have common sense prevail on this? please reinstate the team names orangemen and orangewomen.
am i wrong on this?
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Actually, the move was made by the previous administration; particularly Crouthamel. So, your character attack against Nancy Cantor is wrong.
That's true
It wasn’t Cantor’s (or Gross’s, as some people say at times) fault for the name change. That being said, I agree that it should be Orangemen and Orangewomen.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
i've always associated the renaming of us to the orange with nancy cantor.
i did a quick check on wikipedia, but that was inconclusive. the only question i answered was that the name change coincided with chancellor cantor’s arrival in 2004.
since i’m not 100% certain, let me just say that i stand corrected.
come on!
the slimey way they changed the name has cantor written allllll over it! they announced the move during the summer when the kids were away on break. if they did it during the semester there would have been a riot on the quad! you wouldn’t have even had orangewoman teams if it wasnt for orangemen!
how can you say cantor wasn’t involved when she tried to get the EXACT same thing done at the u of illinois? hard to ignore the facts. she may not have been the sitting chancellor just yet but she certainly could have been pulling the strings. crouthamel was the AD with the orangemen/woman nickname for over 20 years, i’m sure that his last act of duty wasn’t to totally emasculate the athletic teams!
if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, its a duck.
The fact that she tried to change the names at the U of Illinois is completely irrelevant, considering that there are many parties, including the NCAA itself, that want to see that name changed.
I’m not saying she wasn’t involved (the most likely scenario is that it wasn’t her idea but she was contacted regarding it), but that’s not real evidence.
Somehow
I think the best solution is to refer to the teams as a whole as the Orange (eg "Syracuse Orange Athletics) but when talking about a group of men’s teams or a group of women’s teams refer to them as the Orangemen or Orangewomen (eg “Syracuse Orangemen Football/Syracuse Orangemen Basketball/Syracuse Orangewomen Basketball”).
sounds reasonable
keep the Orange as the name on the football field and jersey, but refer to them as the orangemen/orangewomen when talking about them in a game, or introducing them.
Well so far
I’m one of only nine that actually likes the Orange. Honestly I can’t give a good reason why I prefer it. It just seems less clunky. Plus, I arrived at the university just as the name changed, so it’s the only name that I’ve been a part of. I can see why older folks would want the ’men back.
Go, fight, and win.
kinda off topic...
but does anyone find it weird that there are the tennessee volunteers and then there are the tennessee LADY volunteers? why call out LADY for the womens’ teams? women can’t volunteer?
back on topic…i had no issue with orangemen/women. it changed depending on if it was a mens or womans team. more unifying? maybe. but really i think they were just in the middle of trying to “sexy up” their image in athletics (new uni’s and logo).
still call them orange and orangemen interchangeably.
http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/
This drives me insane. Most schools do it (including SU). It is utter nonsense. “Come watch the UConn women’s basketball team, the Lady Huskies!” Oh good, cause I would have thought that men play women’s basketball if you didn’t clarify. Specifying orangemen vs. orangewomen is actually far less dicktastic than calling the men The Orange and the women The Lady Orange.
To be fair...
I don’t think they changed the name to be “pc.” I think they just did it to be cool and to re-brand the tanking program, however misguided it may have been. I still prefer orangemen, though.
by Rocket Ship Science on Jul 7, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
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