Get Jonny A Dinghy Cause He's Testing The Waters

by Sean Keeley on Apr 1, 2009 2:54 PM EDT

Depending on whether you're a glass half-full or glass half-empty kind of person, Andy Katz's story this morning on Jim Boeheim's recommendation that Jonny Flynn test the NBA Draft waters could be seen as horrifying or somewhat reassuring:

Boeheim said late Tuesday night that he is going to recommend that Flynn put his name in the draft by the April 30 deadline, go through a few workouts and get a true read on his status.

"He'd have to be top 10," Boeheim said. "He came in and wants to stay and I do think he'll come back unless he's fairly high."

There's something reassuring about it in a way. No one is burying their heads in the sand to the reality of the situation. Right now Jonny probably is a first-round pick. But next year he could be a top ten pick for sure. Why risk pulling a Donte when you know you could do so much better next year. Especially if, as Andy points out, Jonny really wants to come back next year and compete for a national title.

Andy also mention this non-scoop scoop:

There is a chance that juniors Paul Harris and Eric Devendorf may not return to the team for their senior seasons, according to a source close to the situation.

So a source says that it's possibly possible? Does that even qualify as a scoop? Can I say that a source close to the situation says there's a chance that Eric Devendorf is actually a Cylon? Cause I think it's true.

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Devendorf

I knew he was a frakkin’ skin job. Knew it.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Apr 1, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions

Nah.

But Flynn’s a Terminator sent back to prevent a dystopian future where the Orange went three years without reaching the NCAA tournament.

by drothgery on Apr 1, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Extends hand to Jim Boeheim

“Come with me if you want to live.”

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Apr 1, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

""Come with me if you want to live, brah."

by Sean Keeley on Apr 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Which

Terminator? Arnold the Terminator, or Robert Patrick the T-1000 from T2. Of course there is T3, but we won’t count that.

by nleary66 on Apr 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

He's a little guy (for a division I basketball player), and appears to have feelings, so...

… more like Summer Glau’s Terminator from Terminator: The Sarah Conor Chronicles.

(no homo)

by drothgery on Apr 2, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Colonel Tigh

Having Saul Tigh as a father would explain a lot about Devo.

by Jeff E on Apr 2, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions

But didn't Devo say he was definitely coming back?

Even after the OU loss? You can’t lie to us like that Eric! Jonny Flynn can, but not you!

by voteprime on Apr 1, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions

Oh, and very nice use of your first AP photo.

by voteprime on Apr 1, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions

Wait. Let me get this straight:

Flynn wants to stay but Boeheim is going to tell him to test the waters? It is written like a straightforward story, but could someone be pulling our leg here? Be it Boeheim or Katz. And isn’t the deadline April 26th?

And Devo seemed pretty certain after the OU loss he was coming back, not sure how valid that point is. If it’s all true, I think it’s technically a good idea to let Jonny see how much better he could do next year, but just as easily he might be convinced to take the money and run. I do like hearing that he wants to come back and win a title though.

by NOLACuse on Apr 1, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions

It feels like reverse psychology to me

Boeheim knows Jonny isn’t a top ten pick. He wants to prove it to him.

by Sean Keeley on Apr 1, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Couldn't agree more....

Boeheim is totally mastermind-ing this entire situation.

And you’re right. JB KNOWS that JF isn’t top 10 yet. And you better believe he is saying, “look the same thing happened to Greene last year!”

by Cody K on Apr 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

This is a good thing

Jimmy B is showing recruits he puts his players first. Johnny is going to test the waters and see where he will get picked (I hear teens) and come back on his own. No agent will be hired – nothing wrong with there.

by ryanwk628 on Apr 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions

"the source"

on devendorf and harris is obviously boeheim in the same conversation just going on background instead of on the record.

by Bernie's Fine on Apr 1, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions

Agreed

No doubt about it. What is Jimmy going to force them out?

by BabyBull1289 on Apr 1, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions

This is a very good thing

This is the way to handle it by all involved. Flynn wants to stay, but his advisor (his coach) is advising him to test the waters. Boeheim wants him to stay, but realizes that he cannot make a kid give up on a dream that is a sure thing. Frankly, if Flynn is a top 10 pick he SHOULD go.

I love the ‘Cuse, but we have no right to keep a good kid from pursuing his dream when it is ripe for the picking. We’ll get a karma kickback too!

by ezcuse on Apr 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions

If Triche is the truth, we have Rautins and him. No need for Devo. Wes Johnson I have to imagine is better than Paul. Boeheim doesn’t like deep rotations anyways.

I don’t want to see them go but is it the end of the world if they leave? I dont think so.

And Johnny can’t go. He just can’t. I don’t like this test the waters business because like Boeheim said, you have some people saying top 10, others teens, others 20s you don’t get an accurate assessment unless you are top 5. Flynn stays a year and comes out, he could damn well be the number 1 pick if he plays filthy nasty for a year.

by JRSu1 on Apr 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions

The only person who knows

where hes going is Blake Griffin

by ryanwk628 on Apr 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Ricky Rubio, if he comes out is the top PG. People are slobbing over Brandon Jennings for some reason so he is number 2.

After that its a crap shoot and you have to look at team needs. I’d hate to see Johnny get drafted in the late teens and 20s and be in the NBDL or a journeyman. Next year he could become a star for a franchise, sign a long term deal, get guaranteed money. It just makes sense to wait, especially if his heart isnt in it this year.

by JRSu1 on Apr 1, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

In some round-a-bout way...

Donte Greene could be a major contributor to a possible deep run into the tourney next year. Think about it. It’s obvious that Jonny recognizes that you are guaranteed almost nothing if you are outside of the lottery. Maybe he wouldn’t have seen that without Donte bolting…

Every one is talking about what LeBron is saying in Jonny’s ear, I’d love to hear what Donte is saying in his other ear.

I hope he comes back, not because I want an NC (lie), but for an even more selfish reason: I want another year’s full of highlights that ESPN will be playing for the next 20 years with him in an SU jersey.

Either way, God love him and Paul. Genuine blue-collar Upstaters who were raised understanding how important SU sports is to this region. No glitz, no glamour, just good ‘ol hard-nosed hoops. Think about it, these guys are probably BILLS fans. Not Pats, not ’Boys, not even the ol’ Drrrty Birds…BUFFALO BILLS.

You can tell Jonny doesn’t play for himself, he plays because he wants to perfect the game. He recognizes his part in it, and is trying to take it, and everyone around him, to another level. Even if he stays til he graduates, he’ll still be sorely missed when he leaves, and welcomed back emphatically whenever he visits as an ambassador of our school.

Few interviews impressed me more that when he accepted the BET MVP trophy, and promptly deferred all credit to not only his teammates, but to the staff as well. A class act that even some of the NBA’s elder statesman could take a few lessons from.

The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.

by StrawHatGuy on Apr 1, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions

ESPN Insider Content

I get insider content for free, so I’ve been following the word on Flynn for a while.

Summary: Mar 30 Update: Flynn has had a fantastic run over the past three weeks. From playing 67 minutes in a six-overtime thriller versus UConn in the Big East tournament to putting up strong 22-point, 6-assist performance against Oklahoma in the Sweet 16, Flynn has proven he’s one of the top point guards in college hoops. His speed, toughness and ability to probe defenses have more and more NBA executives impressed. While his lack of size, streaky shooting ability and proclivity for turnovers will probably keep him from being a Top 10 prospect, a number of NBA executives I’ve spoken with this week currently have Flynn ranked somewhere between 12 and 18 on their big boards. Flynn was adamant last week that he’s returning to Syracuse for his junior season. But given the feedback from NBA scouts at the moment, the temptation to bolt may be hard to pass up.

by JRSu1 on Apr 1, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions

I agree with

Nunes. Boeheim is a pro and has been down this road before. He is playing the psychology card along with the elder statesmen approach. I am Jimmy B., follow my word, I know all things….So go test the waters, realize you are not a top ten pick, then come back a pre-season All American and go for a natl. title.

by nleary66 on Apr 1, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions