If Jonny & Paul Leave There Will Be Trouble...But If They Stay There Will Be Double.
Without knowing too much about how the rest of college basketball will shake out once the season is over, Syracuse has be considered a frontrunner for next season, at least on paper. In theory, they are losing only one player from the rotation and he's not even a starter (KO). They'll return a point guard who is arguably the best in the country, two three-point specialists with tons of experience and a front-court that will only get better with another season. All of this is not to mention the addition of transfer Wes Johnson, the return of Scoop "Dude, Where's My Cheesesteak" Jardine and the #5 -rated incoming recruiting class in the nation.
This is of course all assuming no one else decides to leave. And all of a sudden, players we thought were staying put are beginning to let the reality of the situation wash over them and, on paper, Syracuse might not be as set as we thought.
First up is the starkest change of mind amongst anyone...Paul Harris. Harris seemed so sure of his return for another season a couple weeks ago that I don't think any SU fan assumed the issue would come up again. Now all of a sudden, Paul's revealed that he's back on the fence about what to do with himself next season. When asked by reporters after the game, Harris replied:
"I don't know," he said. "I don't really want to talk about it."
Whoa. Where'd that come from? Just depressed after the emotional loss or is Paul really thinking about jumping ship early? He certainly doesn't have a chance to make it to the NBA yet, so what could make him leave early? Is he waiting for Jonny to make an official decision? Is it his need to support for his kids?
Maybe...it's just that Paul needs to follow through on those monumental expectations he brought with him to SU:
"To be honest, it has been tough," Harris said. "Not just myself expecting so much, but fans, family members, friends . . . everybody expected me to do way much more than I’m doing. I can’t meet everyone’s expectations. I just have to be myself. I know what I’m capable of doing, and if we keep winning as a team, everything will work out fine."
There's actually a very insightful and, to be honest, depressing quote at the beginning of the article that might just sum it all up:
"People would say, ‘When you get to the NBA, don’t forget me,’ " Harris said Thursday in the Syracuse locker room. "One time, a guy said it as he was walking away. I said, ‘Wait a minute. What if I don’t get to the NBA? Don’t you forget about me.’ "
Paul went onto explain his feeling further:
I'll just figure out if I should stay and how successful I can be by being here next year or is it time for me to move on"
I think it's quite simple for Paul. If Jonny comes back, so does he. If Jonny doesn't, Paul might just take a shot at making an NBA roster and then seeing where his career takes him. Of course, Jonny too has publicly said he will return to SU but he hasn't signed on the line that is dotted, so to speak. And after the game on Friday, it seemed as though Jonny too has decided to pull back:
The big question, the one asked of Boeheim and of Jonny Flynn in the immediate aftermath of Friday's loss, was whether SU's sophomore point guard would return. Flynn has said he will stay at SU, but Friday night he, too, declined to specify his future plans.
Gack. Compounding the issue is the highly disturbing news that LeBron James is openly courting Jonny to...do what, exactly? Play for the Cavs? Is LeBron THAT powerful now that he can circumvent the draft? (Answer: probably):
The best evidence that Syracuse’s Jonny Flynn is rising on draft charts and is now seen as a top-10 pick: LeBron James has been calling Flynn on behalf of the agent Leon Rose, who represents James. If Flynn were just another point guard, Rose would probably have someone else in his stable do the sales pitch, like ex-Knick Mardy Collins. Flynn’s sophomore status has the Orange wishing that James would lose his number for at least one more year.
Its the kind of sorta-news that makes you just wish for some semblance of stability. You just want a little sprinkle of knowledge that at least something familiar will be the same in 2009-2010:
Devendorf, a junior athletically after gaining an extra season because of medical hardship, said he had not committed much thought to the prospect of leaving the Orange. He is on target to graduate in May.
"I'm coming back," he said.
Sorry, America. The good news is you can all recycle those I Hate Devo articles again next March.
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Paul
I would do almost anything to get Paul to leave and Jonny to stay. With Wes Johnson to rebound, Paul is pretty much useless. I know Im in the minority, but I certainly would not be sad to see Paul go.
I mean this in the nicest way possible
but that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. You probably shouldn’t be allowed near a computer.
You must not read a lot
How much better is this rotation:
AO – 27 mins
Rick – 26 mins
Wes – 27 mins
Jonny – 37 mins
Eric – 33 mins
Rautins – 25 mins
Harris – 20 mins
Joseph/Mookie/Triche/Scoop – 5 mins
than this one:
AO – 27 mins
Rick – 26 mins
Wes – 27 mins
Jonny – 37 mins
Eric – 33 mins
Rautins – 33 mins
Joseph – 7 – 10 mins
Triche/Mookie/Scoop – 7 – 10 mins
It was hyperbole, but I think Paul takes more things off the table than he brings and if Wes is as badass as all reports say, the one thing that Paul brings to the table (Rebounding) is not as needed.
I really don’t think Paul and Jonny’s quotes mean anything. They were understandably upset about the game, and they probably just didn’t want to answer questions.
The news about LeBron whispering sweet-nothings in Jonny’s ear has me far more concerned about next season than anything anyone said after that game.
Paul might not be good enough at this point to make the nba but
he is certainly good enough to make a living playing proffesional basketball. He could play in europe or the D-league. If Paul develops a jumper he is an NBA player just with his defense and ability to make an open shot.
Besides the sadness of losing Jonny
What does everybody think about Scoop being our new pg?
Not going there unless we have to.
And as much as I love Scoop, being absent for so long and stepping into Jonny’s spot is not something I wanna think about.
Until Johnny completely confesses to lying multiple times to all Orange fans across the globe and says he is declaring for the NBA draft. I’m taking him for his word. He’ll be back.
I don’t believe in Scoop. From what I have seen of him, I am not impressed.
I don’t believe in Scoop. From what I have seen of him, I am not impressed.
I don’t know, I thought he did pretty well as a freshman, considering under normal circumstances he wouldn’t have even seen a minute of playing time unless we were up by 20+ with a minute to go. Scoop definitely wasn’t ready to be a starting guard yet. But he’ll get there if given the proper time to develop.
Check out ESPN's projections
22 players projected as possible lottery picks. Nearly 65 players projected as possible first round picks. I can’t wait to hear Chad Ford’s predictions regarding the 9 final four teams with a chance to win it all next Monday.
Paul's Quote
In case it sounded familiar to anyone….that quote from Paul about not forgetting him if he DOESN’T make it to the NBA is directly out of the movie/documentary Hoop Dreams.
LeBron courting Flynn on behalf of an agent...
…I’m sorry, how the hell is that even legal?
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
But I bet that 508 page manual
that Jim Calhoun can’t follow correctly could tell us the legality of those calls.
by Jameson_Fleming on Mar 30, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
Yup, since we know that Calhoun is a paragon of NCAA rules :)
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Mar 30, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Flynn to the Knicks
Lebrons Agent: Go to NY
Flynn: But why?
Lebrons Agent: 2010 you will be equipped with D Wade and Lebron.
Flynn: screw Syracuse Hello MSG!!!!!
LeBron isn't available until 2010.
Flynn could stay one more year, get even better, win a NC all the while the Knicks can historically tank a season to guarantee a top draft spot for next year. Then they draft Flynn at #1 and sign LeBron. No need to leave this year.
Only problem with that....
…..is that NYK doesn’t have a First Round pick next year (fuck you very much, Isiah T)
Actually Cody, Utah would only get the Knicks 2009 1st rounder if it falls outside the first 22
In 2010 Utah recieves an unprotected 1st round pick, for get this…….the Tom Gugliota trade!!!
I know, I was referring to the 2010 pick
So by “next year” I meant 2010.
And PS: the Knicks gave up that draft pick in the Marbury trade.
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/03/background_on_the_0910_pick_si.html
I think Utah got it from the Suns however in the Gugliotta salary dump?
Flynn in the NBA
Without a reliable 3 pt shot, Flynns height makes him a late lottery pick at best. If he could develop that shot with another year in college he could line up a lot more guaranteed money in the 2010 draft.
That said, i would never fault a player for leaving early. I wish someone on ESPN would admit that Tyler Hansborough made a mistake by staying an extra year. I bet he cost himself close to $5M in guaranteed money.
Chultz508, Hansborough did cost himself some money. But I bet becoming the ACC's all time
scoring leader was important to him as was winning a title. He is going to have a nice 10 yr career in the nba like Mark Madsen. He’ll make his money and go down as an all time Tarheel great. That’s a good deal.

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