The Brawl With The Hall
Firs things first, we need to admire this photo for his 100% awesomeitude:

My favorite part? AO in the background. Even then, he's uninterested.
So much drama in the second half last night, the game should have been broadcast on TNT. Just in case you somehow missed it, here's the events leading up the scuffle and the actual scuffle itself:
Had a chance to re-watch it again after last night's post and wanted to add some thought:
1. Sorry, Hall, but I LOVE that you turned us into a bunch of swaggering f***ers. We needed that. First time in a long time this team played angry but even more importantly, they played angry and they harnessed it. Those three-pointers were daggers. The defense was smothering and erred on the side of feisty. Just what we needed going into the UConn game.
2. As for Bill Raftery, Doug Gottlieb, Rece Davis and everyone else who said "Hey Syracuse, it's just Seton Hall" during and after the game, you might as well have said "Wait, is this basketball?" CLEARLY, you don't understand the Big East. And to extrapolate, you don't understand the meaning of rivalry. You expect these guys to go out there and fight, claw and scratch. You want Seton Hall to fight for their very post-season existence and you want Syracuse to fight for it's seeding and national recognition. But you don't want or expect the game to get heated? Wake the f*** up, get off your high horses and come back down to Earth. If these games AREN'T this heated, something's wrong. i'm not saying it should always come to fistacuffs but you can't tell me how intense the BET is in your pre-game show 47 times and then complain about the intensity after the fact.
3.That said, yes, Arinze, the clapping was dickish. I like you better when you just scowl in the corner.
4. Kristof! got ejected a few weeks back for an errant elbow. No one gets ejected in this game!?!? I'm not complaining but, I'm thinking maybe KO's ejection seems even more unwarranted now.
5. Eric Devendorf is a one-man dance-dance revolution.
But don't take my word for it, take it from people who were there. Like Jameson, who's been a Twittering machine all week. Jameson agrees that this was a fine example of passion on the court, especially from young master Devo:
While the red-shirt junior guard has had some questionable behavior off the court in the past, he's right when it comes to these actions on the court. Devendorf plays because of his passion to play and win.
That's what college basketball is about. Devendorf's emotion was targeted towards his teammates and his fans. He didn't get up into Seton Hall's face after the storm of three-pointers he drilled.
Especially once you get into the post-game interviews you realize how cathartic an experience this was for Devo. He's blunt and honest about how crowds seem to feel about him ("When they announced I got a technical, I heard the crowd cheer loudly. I know people don't like me.") Devo talks even more candidly in this video from the D.O. Sports Blog:
Yeah but you're our a-hole, Devo.
But what about the way Devo acted after the skirmish? Was it appropriate? Brent Axe doesn't think so, in fact he thinks Devo's behavior was downright embarrassing:
Eric Devendorf's behavior in this game was just unacceptable. I know these are college kids, but that is a lame excuse here.
I'm not talking about the incidents with the technical fouls .Its one thing to get caught up in the emotions of a fight with someone right in your face and you are defending yourself. But it is quite another to act like an immature 5th grader for the rest of the game after that.
Devendorf talks trash all the time, but he took his immature act to a new level in this one.The constant talking, staring, pounding on the chest, and other showboating after the technicals was just bush league and, frankly, makes the rest of the team look bad. Especially in prime time on ESPN.
Brian over at Orange44 wasn't a fan either but laid the blame evenly between Seton Hall and Syracuse players:
Now to the extra curriculars. This was not acceptable by either team. But I will say that it was John Garcia of Seton Hall that initiated the technical fouls by giving the old jibba jab after he was cleanly blocked by Onuaku, but Onuaku was clearly wrong by clapping in his face. If he wanted to clap and walk away that would have been fine, but right in the guy’s face definitely earned a tech. As for Devo and Eugene Harvey, that was ridiculous. While I expect that from Devendorf, putting your hand in another mans face and shoving is unacceptable. Devendorf never put his hands on anyone in that scrum, but Harvey had his hands all over Devendorf’s face and he should have been ejected for that. Either way, it was fine that they both got technical fouls again. It probably helped in that it motivated Syracuse out of a lull and spurred an offensive run.
Fair enough. Probably could have done without some of the taunting. But I still say it was nice to see some swagger out of these guys. To parahprase Denny Green, "Devo is who we thought he was." We can't be shocked he reacted the way he did, we knew this is exactly how he'd react if ever put in this situation, didn't we?
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can we cut
the BS anyone who didn’t get excited about the fisticuffs and says they are “shameful” has never played sports nor do they have an ounce of testosterone in their body. Intensity is what post-season basketball is all about. These are highly competitive athletes get over it. It comes with the territory.
Not that one. That one was epic.
And to be honest that one actually felt like celebration more than him just being a dick.
Nice post.
once again, it’s about reputation. If Lawson, Willie Warren, or Blair hit their chests, they are “great competitors with the will to win.” If Devo does it, it is “thuggish and unsportsmanlike.” Sure, Devo is a bit of a tool, but they cant single him out, it’s unfair.
wtf?
this photo makes the clapping sequence look much less intense:
I guess it was a pretty hard foul
great post
Watched the ESPN coverage of the game and found myself defending Devo from Jay Bilas’ criticisms. Now, I love Bilas, Sean, and Bill. They are the most interesting crew doing games, all speak their minds. But, Bilas went on and on about Devo’s chest pumping having no place in the game, etc… And yet, ESPN producers chose footage of Devo pounding his chest for the cutaway shot when they went to commerical THREE TIMES, including the LAST SHOT from the game when they went to Sports Center.
Why was this? Because it was childish and immature? Was it meant to embarass Devo or the ‘Cuse? No, I don’t think so. They chose it because it embodies the enthusiasm of college basketball. I know it’s pointing out the obvious. ESPN hypocritically promotes exactly what they decry (see the NFL). But come on, if it weren’t for Devo’s past, his actions would be interpretted completely differently.
by pearl from half court on Mar 12, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
Couple thoughts on the game & post
My favorite part of the game last night involved Jay Bilas. After they show GMac in the crowd he asks “How many games do you think Syracuse would have won in 2006 without Gerry on the team?” To which Sean McDonough is trying to tactfully explain the Jimmy B rant from 3 years ago.
As for the fighting, shit happens, I didn’t like it, but ultimately it didn’t hurt the team. And I don’t think the fouls were handed out correctly. I think the kid that took out the Waffle should have been tossed.
On to the Post;
You missed a great point to bring back a Syracuse memory for all of us here Sean. “But you’re our a-hole” Where is the Jim “The Hammer” Shapiro link. Couldn’t you have thrown in a “I may be an S.O.B., but I’m YOUR S.O.B.” commercial for us? The “I sue drunks” is my personal favorite commercial of his, but it really isn’t applicable to this.
And are we at the point yet where we can start making fun of Devo for “pushing a girl”? Saying something like “Harvey, treated Devo as if he were a girl on Walnut at 3AM.” (too soon?)
I was thinking the same thing
during the game and one of the replays of the tickle pillow fight, Bilas said something like, “and there’s Devendorf with a hand to the face” – and all I could think of is some inappropriate commentator (a drunk Raff perhaps??) to come in with a zinger like, “and that’s how Devendorf does it! Think back to that Halloween night – straight to the kisser….ONIONS!”
Oh man I forgot about that part.
Since it came before the “fight” it kind of disappeared in my memory, but I do remember laughing at that. It was a great moment by BIlas. And Sean McDonough with his “nice try” attitude afterward was also pretty priceless.
People just dont understand
I don’t care about Devo staring anyone down or talking because you know what that is basketball. Anyone who has a problem has never played basketball or is lifeless.
Devo buried that three in the guys face. If I did that I stare my opponent down too given the circumstances. You can’t tell me that you guys wouldn’t look your opponent in the eye after you buried a three in his face, and the fact they were disrespecting the team. It wouldn’t happen. It’s the culture of sport. Trash talking happens every game from every player. You just notice when a tech gets called. You got to play with some passion and some swagger. I loved last nights game.
Devo
I can do without some of his excessive posturing, but overall, if that’s what fires him up, then I’ll take a pissed off Devo every single time, because he went out and played with a FURIOUS focus after the altercations.
My biggest problem with the team is…why the hell do they need a brawl like that to get fired up? Devo was all but invisible in the game until that point. I hope someone hits him over the head with a broomstick tonight right before the tipoff with UConn, because if that’s what it takes to wake the scoring machine within him, then I am all for it.
GO ORANGE.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Is ESPN trying to create a drama?
I have to agree with most of you guys about the passion this team has but I fear ESPN is trying to portray Syracuse as the evil empire. Both teams were equal at fault but all I hear is how Syracuse acted unsportsmanlike.
How many times has the waffle been slammed to the floor this season? No talk about that, only about DEVO who was only defending our Belgium friend. Even today during the games the commentating has been one sided. Can’t wait what they say tonight.
On Sportscenter after the game did anyone see the segment on pop corn moments? The one commentator, I forgot who, said “That was even during play” after Harris took some popcorn from a fan. Did anyone else think that was condescending? I think they just want a drama to hype up the Big East next year and were going to be cast as the villain.
agree
Couldn’t agree more. Despite what the commentators say, ESPN loves it. it’s an easy, salable story line, and ESPN is running with it.
Hopefully, it creates an “us against the world” mentallity that spurs the Orange to actually focus for a forty minute game.
by pearl from half court on Mar 12, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
need a picture
of devo holding Hopkin’s hand when the ref led him to the bench after the fight. classic homoerotic devo.
great post sean
couldn’t agree with you (and a lot of the posters here) more on the “passion” element. isn’t the passion and enthusiasm of college basketball what makes it great? i also love that swagger that we had last night, especially from AO. his clapping was a dick move, but at the same time, i loved seeing that passion from the usually reserved AO. and devendorfs pose/lasso/chest pump in the corner after one of his many dagger 3’s may have been the highlight of my life
Devo
Devo is stupid when he taunts the other team for no reason. Last night… that crap was brought to him. He was clearly breaking up the scrap when he got pushed in the face, etc. I’d be pissed off too. Seriously. And I think I would taunt the guy that got away with it.
Has nothing to do with thuggishness and everything to do with having a pulse.
After the game in the subdued locker room, the talk was about the back-to-back skirmishes. Both teams had hugged it out after the game, so the hard feelings were gone. Mostly it was Garcia blaming himself for getting the technical that effectively took the team’s best big man out of the game.
According to Wetzel’s wrap, they left it all on the court and everyone was cool after the game. So anyone who still has a problem is just creating an issue out of nothing.
I hope SU didn't leave it ALL on the floor.
Or at least I hope they pick it back up off the floor when they get to the Garden tonight. That intensity will come in handy.
But I get what you’re saying and I agree.

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