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Absolutely delightful news today out of SU Athletics.  It's Club four-four in the Carrier Dome, you guys.  Hey everybody, we're all gonna get laid!

"Club four-four debuts as an innovative partnership between Syracuse Athletics and Turning Stone Resort & Spa," said Syracuse director of athletics Dr. Daryl Gross. "The upscale, opulently designed space debuts as a Manhattan-style social meeting place for those who appreciate extraordinary atmosphere. Club four-four will inject a new form of luxury experience while viewing an Orange game or concert inside the Carrier Dome."

Opulently-designed?  La-di-frickin-da.

So, hey...have I mentioned I appreciate extraordinary atmosphere.  It's all I talk about.  "Where are we going tonight and is the atmosphere extraordinary?"  That's me talking to my wife every Friday night.  So since I am one of the designated appreciators, I can come in, right?  Don't need anything else...correct?

Fans can take advantage of a partial-season membership from January 2, 2010 through June 30, 2010, which includes the highly anticipated BIG EAST men’s and women’s basketball games, a full season of lacrosse action, and other events, at an introductory rate of $500. Corporate membership for four is $1500.     

Starting July 1, 2010, full-season memberships for football, men’s and women’s basketball, men’s and women’s lacrosse, concerts and other events are available for $1500. Corporate memberships for four are $5000. Football-only memberships are available for $500.

Ahhh...left that part out.  "For fans who appreciate extraordinary atmosphere AND have $1,500 to burn."  Got it.

Oh and then there's this.

Club four-four at the Carrier Dome is where New York’s ultra-VIPs will go to mix, mingle and cheer on the Orange.

If you ever refer to yourself as an "ultra-VIP" in my presence I will punch you in the sternum.  That's the TNIAAM Ultra-VIP guarantee.

Turns out those ads in the rafters were just Phase I of the Turning Stone/Syracuse University Plan for Central New York Domination (TSSUPCNYD). Mike Waters questioned the idea of promoting a casino inside a stadium on a college campus last week, to which DOC replied "They’re classy and professional. It’s a big property in this region, and we’re not going to ignore that they’re there."  Clearly.

I look forward to the day I can mix and mingle in Club four-four with the other ultra-VIPs as we watch the latest No. 44 run the ball for the Orange....oh....right.

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Serious question. (If that's allowed)

The whole Turning Stone/SU/casino ‘thing’ just doesn’t seem right to me.
Doe anyone know if UNLV has any relationships with the 1001 casinos in Vegas.

With apologies to Black Sabbath
‘We Sold Our Soul for the Casino’

There’s so many ultra-VIP’s in this area. I think they current hang out at the Amber Inn in Otisco Valley. (God I hope this fails BEYOND the known limits of failure.)

Also, if you type Club-44, it’s really Club-$$. Just a shift key away.

by moosedontbounce on Dec 17, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

From the article
The University of New Mexico agreed to a $2.5 million for a five-year deal with the Route 66 Casino Hotel. In the Pac-10 Conference, seven schools accept casino or lottery advertising.

Agree about the not sounding right, though. When I think Turning Stone, the first thing I think of… is Mike Williams… but the second thing… casino. “Resort” is a distant 3rd.

by Trapped_In_ACC_Hell on Dec 17, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is all just a clever ploy by Dr. Gross to get the support of the Native Americans so we can bring back the Saltine Warrior.

by stumpycuse on Dec 17, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand why they are doing this.

There are no other major companies left in the area that can act as sponsers.
Carrier – Shell of their former self.
NPG – Almost gone.
Penn-Traffic – Bankrupt, Death-throes
Crucible – Bankrupt
Who else?

I wonder if there is a buy-out clause in the naming-rights contract for the dome?

by moosedontbounce on Dec 17, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m anticipating ‘opulently’ to be HCDM’s next buzzword… “I thought our game plan was ‘opulently designed’ we just didn’t have the ‘extraordinary atmosphere’ for our players to execute.”

In all seriousness, I worked for a company with club seats to Philadelphia Eagles games, which included access to a level that sounds similar to this: luxury foods, better drinks, etc… it was actually great. When it was raining and cold and I was too much of a wuss to enjoy “northeastern football” outdoors, I went inside, had a latte and watched the game on a plasma tv.

by stumpycuse on Dec 17, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

YES

We played opulently today…

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by Sean Keeley on Dec 17, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I love this line: “Access to the private club is available through a tax-deductible membership fee.” How many jokes can we make about the OIN and Turning Stone not having to pay taxes?

I visited town and went to the Columbia game the day after Thanksgiving. The TS banners were such a sad site.

by Cuse703 on Dec 17, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

This Feels

Like everything Syracuse is NOT and everything DOC GROSS wants it to be. Needless to say, I’m not fan.

And let’s not kid ourselves, turning stone isn’t exactly the hard rock casino in vegas…….

by Russianator on Dec 17, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

In the grand scheme of things

this isn’t that big of a deal, it’s another way to get more money into the school coffers, but reading that press release makes my skin crawl.

by Russianator on Dec 17, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

would you prefer they stop fundraising and just pray for inclusion in the Big-10?

by stumpycuse on Dec 17, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you read the press release?

He’s selling a vegas/nyc club in the carrier dome. In an economically depressed region of the state. For $1500 a person. Sponsored by a casino. He doesn’t know his audience. Doesn’t have a clue.

by Russianator on Dec 17, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

Imagine if you’re the 1 person that actually springs for this. It would be lonely watching the game in there all by yourself.

by DMF on Dec 18, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

One other thing

Gross can retire 44 so it’s never used in its proper football context, yet he can bastardize the hell out the number to make a buck with a local casino. What an ass clown

by Russianator on Dec 17, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

DOCTOR Gross's plan is becoming reality

The next phases are:

1) Transplanting the Turning Stone Tower next to the Carrier Dome and attaching it to the facility

2) Transplanting the Carousel Center next to the Carrier Dome and attaching it to the facility

3) Ordering a statue, about the size of the statue of liberty, of DOCTOR Gross handing Ernie Davis the Heisman and putting it on a pedestal that overlooks the top of the Dome

4) Cutting out the top of the dome so that Ernie and DOCTOR can shine down as the two most important beacons of hope in Syracuse history, overseeing the next century of greatness

5) Renaming the student section the “USC East Zone sponsored by Lookers”

I can only get MS Paint on my work laptop, but Sean will send a $5 Panera Gift Card to the first person who puts together the best image of this!

by TheRenegadePumpkin on Dec 17, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

6) Transplanting Manhattan next to the Carrier Dome and attaching it to the facility

The actual Statue of Liberty will stand alongside the statue of Dr. Gross and Ernie Davis.

by el_bresidente on Dec 18, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not that big of a deal to me

But that’s probably because I’m from Southeastern CT… Literally EVERYTHING in this state is “Mohegan Sun” this, “Foxwoods” that. Hell, our WNBA Team (the “Connecticut Sun”) is a walking, dribbling, pick-and-roll-ing ad for Mohegan Sun.

You get used to it…

Defending the Cassel since 2009

by bwelch37 on Dec 17, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Come see the Orange

take on Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan- the Ultra-VIP members of the Big Ten- in the new Turning Stone Club Four! Games will be played on the Nike Ernie Davis Legends Field in front of a captive audience on the Big Ten Network.

by FireMikeVeley on Dec 17, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I actually don't find this particularly bad.

I don’t really find casinos any more sketchy than many of the big banks/corporations/etc. They may not fit in with sports per say because of the negative connotation that comes with gambling, but it’s not like it’s illegal for students to go there or anything. I mean hell, we sell beer at the Carrier Dome and I don’t hear anyone complaining. Most people I meet can’t believe that fact since we have one of the very few college stadiums where alcohol is sold.

by NOLACuse on Dec 17, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

I mean the Turning Stone thing.

Club 44 is… interesting. I am not a fan of GROSS using 44 for his own means after depriving the football team of its use.

by NOLACuse on Dec 17, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

so many stadiums have a fancy-ish bar inside.

and i kind of like that idea. but to charge 1500 is just insane. insane!! this is syracuse we’re talking about, central new york. how long until yearly membership fee is non-existent and its 20 dollars at the door to get in??

by orngfan on Dec 17, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

Did we mention its

Manhattan-style? Cost, justified.

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by Sean Keeley on Dec 17, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

When the heck is TNIAAM getting an Ultra-VIP Commenting Section?

I’m getting tired of my comments being forced to mingle with this riff-raff.

by voteprime on Dec 17, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Here is my favorite part...

But Club four-four isn’t about food or cocktails. It’s about Orange sports and events, and mostly about being there.

Ha

by FireMikeVeley on Dec 17, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Turning Stone

Where 5$ blackjack on saturday nights happens

That place is low rent

by brendoh on Dec 17, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

I'll just go to my usual extraordinary seat in Club three one four.

Thanks.

I actually asked one of the ushers at the Colgate game what was going on because I wanted to show a friend who was visiting from out of town the National Championship trophy, but it was gone. It was all boarded up. The usher said Turning Stone was building a restaurant. I thought maybe that would be pretty cool. I didn’t realize it was just another place in the Dome I’d have to buy my way into.

Go Orange!

by MBorkowski on Dec 17, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

is this replacing the Orange Shoppe behind section 109?

by smaze on Dec 18, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

No, the shop is still there. The club will be next to it.

I don’t know where the trophy went, though. THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY! Yeah, no idea where that went.

Go Orange!

by MBorkowski on Dec 18, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Melted down

to make DOC Gross’ throne in the middle of Club four four.

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by Sean Keeley on Dec 18, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The Trophy

Was moved to the ‘Melo Center when it opened. I’ve only been to Midnight Madness this Year but it was already gone then

by Brando415 on Dec 18, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Where is this going?

I’m most curious to see how/where they are building this. If it’s where the trophy used to be, the Orange shopp is on the right and the Dome management offices are on the left. Unless Pat Campbell agreed to have his office turned into a “Manhattan” style lounge how did they do this? Did they remove a whole bunch of concrete in that section? We need someone to get pictures… also what about the Ernie Davis room on the other side of the Dome and the super luxury boxes they just renovated on the second level. Can’t Dr. Gross work on improving the game settings for the regular fans and not his super rich friends

by Brando415 on Dec 18, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

When I was there a couple weeks ago it was boarded up just as a store in a mall is when it is being renovated. I think the door to the offices was accessible, though.

Go Orange!

by MBorkowski on Dec 18, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear DOCTOR,

It’s pronounced “forty-four”. If you’re going to try being a clever prat, why not call it “four and forty” or “4 times 11” or “88 divided by 2”. “four-four”?! You stupid prick, just stop screwing up OUR tradition. The nice thing about tradition is that it markets itself, you don’t have to go and f’ing jazz it up with cutsie bullshit. Got it?

10-4, good buddy.

by nc44 on Dec 18, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

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