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Larry Elin Doesn't Go To Many Sports Stadiums

Larry Elin is an Associate Professor in the Newhouse School and there's something about Syracuse fans that really grinds his gears.  He decided to write a letter to Dave Rahme expressing his concern over the behaviors he sees inside the Carrier Dome.  To Elin, it's as obvious as all get-out that the reason the Carrier Dome experience has become so untenable is because, quite simple, Syracuse Football fans are the WORST FANS IN ALL OF SPORTS IN ALL THE LAND ACROSS THE WORLD AND INSIDE THE KNOWN UNIVERSE (AND POSSIBLY WITHIN THE UNKNOWN UNIVERSE AS WELL BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET).

Orange fans -- not all of them, but the loud ones -- are boorish. I've lived in NYC, LA, San Diego, Denver, Ann Arbor, and now here. I was a fan of USC, UCLA, San Diego Padres, Chargers, Denver Broncos and Nuggets, Colorado Buffalo, and the Big Blue at Michigan. The only place I've ever heard the home crowd boo an opposing team when it entered the stadium is here.

At other stadiums, they actually politely applaud the opponent, and then watch as their team dismantles them on the field. Here, it's the opposite.

Oh brother.  Really?  Do I really need to scour YouTube to find clips of other fanbases booing the opposing team?  You're really going to make me do this?  Fine.  Here's Alabama getting booed as they enter the field at LSU. Here's Marshall getting booed as they take the field at West Virginia. How about Cal fans booing USC? Here's Central Florida fans booing Texas as they enter the field. How bout Notre Dame fans booing USC as they take the field? Michigan getting booed as they take the field at Ohio State followed by the Michigan band (the band!) getting booed at Ohio State.

Here's your upstanding USC fans booing UCLA players during introductions and how bout those nice USC fans booing Notre Dame as they take the field?

Why stop with college football?  Here's Colts fans booing a little girl.  Your Broncos, whom you pointed out for their decorum, booing Jay Cutler as he steps on the field. Your classy Padres fans booing Barry Bonds.  You mentioned Nuggets fans are all class, but here they are booing the Mavericks upon introduction. Here's the President of the United States getting booed at a baseball game.

I believe we've concluded that Syracuse fans, though boorish, are no more boorish than other fanbase in the nation or on the planet.  I haven't even listed any international soccer crowds and for good reason.  Every video above looks like nursery school by comparison.

Not to mention the fact we live in a world where YANKEE FANS BOOED DEREK JETER!!!  The equivalent of Christians booing Jesus upon his resurrection. Once you know that, there's no going back.  You are officially through the looking glass.

After our boobs boo, they pound down beers during the National Anthem, boo the home team if it's losing, stock up on beer at halftime, and leave with four minutes left in the third quarter. I can't stand going to the games because of the fans, not because the team is on a losing streak.

Good point.  Ever go to a Giants game?  Or a Raiders game?  Or A Mets game? Or a Florida Gators game? Or a Toronto Maple Leafs game?  If you even so much as hand someone a beer they look at you like you're crazy.  "How DARE you try to push alcohol on me, sir.  I demand recompense and challenge you to a duel!"  That is the response you get 83% of the time.

And for the record, I live in Los Angeles.  You know NOTHING of fans who leave early from sporting events until you've lived in Los Angeles (which you seem to have, therefore confusing me.)  And be fair, you're exaggerating.  SU fans do leave early...when the game is blowout.  As much as you or I might not like that, that's what happens.  You pay good money to come see your team, your team gets killed, you don't want to watch your team get killed anymore. It's an understandable response. But if it's a good game and the Orange are still in it, most fans stick around.

I'm not saying Syracuse fans are right to boo their own players, especially since that doesn't even seem to be the point you were trying to make.  I don't like it any more than you do. But booing the opponent?  Come on now....of COURSE that's fair game.  Show me a fanbase that doesn't boo their opponent as they take the field in order to create a hostile environment and I'll show you a fanbase that is apathetic and worthless. 

The boobs, as you put it, are the same boobs who have been here since Syracuse football started.  The fanbase wasn't a magical collection of wide-eyed innocents back in the 70's and 80's.  Neither was the Yankees fanbase or the UCS fanbase or the Knicks fanbase.  Syracuse fans are no worse than any other.  They have their faults and I can't defend them all but they are certainly not the unwashed cretins you so gleefully made them out to be.

And, to paraphrase one of the commenters on your article, if you don't want to be there then simply don't go.  We boobs will get on just fine.

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Larry Elin

Pfftt . . . Of course he wears tweed.

Research is in “new media.” Let’s hope he doesn’t chastise me for being the worst person in the world due to my amazing Twitter and blog.

by Hoya Suxa on Nov 5, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Once

Elin discovers the intertubes he’s going to give you a good old verbal trashing – via snail mail.

by Russianator on Nov 5, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not a fan of the man

he was my advisor my freshman year at syracuse. he’s really creepy in person and really weird.

by chrisbee13 on Nov 5, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then supply his email

or at least email him Sean’s article on his less than accurate statements.

by Otis Hill on Nov 5, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to post his email address.

But just Google him and you’ll find what you’re looking for.

by voteprime on Nov 5, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The 5th result

is this article. You’re moving up in the world Sean.

by Otis Hill on Nov 5, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Brick just killed a man – stabbed him in the heart with a trident

by Russianator on Nov 5, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I should whatnow?

But what will I do with this grenade with the pin already pu . . .

BOOM!

by Hoya Suxa on Nov 5, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He does have one redeeming quality

He worked on the movie ‘Tron’.

by Otis Hill on Nov 5, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if you ignore the rest of the letter and just read this one sentence:

At other stadiums, they actually politely applaud the opponent

it’s almost as if he’s being sarcastic. Unfortunately, there’s the rest of the letter surrounding that sentence that makes he think he’s just an idiot.

by voteprime on Nov 5, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wait

So this guy was a fan of UCLA AND USC? Isnt that like being a fan of Syracuse AND Georgetown? And were supposed to care about his views as a sports fan?

by KaiserKyle on Nov 5, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You can’t have “boorish” or “boob” with out “boo”.

by stumpycuse on Nov 5, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You know he was one of the only Profs I didn't have during my TRF expierence.

Also, I recall before student seats were general admission. Then, they didn’t get there TIL almost halftime, then they left.

I want a rebuttal by Prof Bennet. He’s practically blind and goes to EVERY GAME.

Man I miss his history classes.

The 'Cuse is in tha house, oh my God oh my God.

by StrawHatGuy on Nov 5, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

David Bennett

Is the most kick-ass professor on that campus. I loved that guy when I was at ’Cuse, and THAT guy knows not only history, but sports.

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Nov 5, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is this guy a joke?

the article can’t be serious. first he’s been a fan of usc AND ucla? both? come on thats like rooting for the islanders AND The rangers. this man, and i’m using the term man very loosely, is clearly NOT a sports fan nor does he have ANY authority to write on the subject. i’ve never once seen ANY team in ANY city politely applaud the opposing team when they enter. JERK. OFF. i’m gonna be even MORE boorish when i go to the su v. nova bball game this year JUST FOR THIS GUY.

by orngfan on Nov 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

does anyone have his email address?

we should let him know that without the loud fans the dome wouldn’t be called “the loud house” a pretty pathetic name to describe where the football team plays but still. i’d like to call him out on his hilarious letter directly! this guy is a professor? the quality of education at SU is going DOWNHILL quickly!

by orngfan on Nov 5, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Every email address of every professor is available through a very easy people search on syr.edu

by Orange22 on Nov 5, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

This has to be a hoax right? Some levity to make the fan base feel better? Clearly Mr. Elin is joking because its so glaringly wrong its intended purpose has to be humor. That or it came from an academic – you know, some one that had studied something from afar, but never actually participated.

by Russianator on Nov 5, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please

don’t be a schmuck with this information.

That is all.

Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician - The Syracuse blog that cares.

by Sean Keeley on Nov 5, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

don’t be a schmuck with this information.

Fuck. Well, then what the heck is the computer thingy for then?! ::storms off::

by voteprime on Nov 5, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just delete this post, it’s probably more trouble than it’s worth… it’s already painfully obvious where to go to look for his e-mail.

by SUMB44 on Nov 5, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

devils advocate

There is a certain…I dunno… caustic sourness that native Cusians do like to revel in. Maybe that’s what Ellin was getting at. If you read some of the daily comments on syracuse.com, have spent an appreciable amount of time in the greater syracuse area (and also somewhere else), saw 25k empty seats against the #5 team in the country, heard the Paulus boo-birds, and/or go to the Fair annually, then you know what I mean. Two other place I could compare it to are Utica and Port Arthur, TX.

I’m from Syracuse, love the hometown, love many people still there…but there is definitely a jerktown element that might get represented well at the Dome. That said, Elis seems douchy and his letter misguided.

Go Orange.

by lemonysnicket9 on Nov 5, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don’t forget about Eagles fans booing Santa Claus.

by SpasticMonkey418 on Nov 5, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they didn’t just boo him, they pelted him with snow balls.

by stumpycuse on Nov 5, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

like i said on twitter he obviously can’t be trusted. Look at how many teams he “WAS” a fan of. You can trust a man who has no true allegiances!

by obcuredv1sions on Nov 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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