Syracuse Athletics Has Had Better Weeks
I've been racking my brain since last night trying to figure out if this is the worst two-day stretch in Syracuse Athletics history.
I mean, we've had some bad days. Keith "F***ing" Smart. The Akron loss. Getting snubbed by the NCAA Tourney. There's a ton more out there. But has there ever been a two-day period that has had sent such negative tidal waves throughout Cuse Nation via multiple sports? I'm not so sure.
Monday, Mike Williams quit and our coach got misty-eyed defending a starting quarterback whom few people think should still be starting. And at the expense of the "back-up," who will be here a lot longer than the current starter. It was...awkward. Suddenly, I had this feeling in the pit of my stomach. It was a familiar feeling. It felt like...the last four years.
Then Tuesday, the details behind Williams come out. Four SU players break team rules and get into a car accident. Those who didn't walk into Marrone's office and quit are suspended and among them is our 2nd-leading rusher. We also find out one of our key defensive linemen, Jared Kimmel, is out for the year but things are so crazy that it barely registers. Then, our basketball team picks the worst possible day of the week, when nothing else is going on, to lay a stinkbomb against a Division II school. Not just any Division II school. The Division II school ten minutes down the road. The Division II school that will be able to hold that over our heads forever.

How does a Dolphin reach for anything? And I still demand to know what a school in landlocked Upstate New York is doing with a Dolphin for a mascot. But I digress...
If Syracuse loses this game the day before or the day after, it's a comical story that gets some national attention but not too much. Because SU chose to lose this one on the day when there was no World Series, no NFL and no major sports story...we became the major sports story.
"Let's not blow this out of proportion. It's an exhibition game." You know what....you're right. And you're wrong. You're right from the (tremendous) standpoint that it doesn't count, Boeheim is still working out the kinks and the team didn't play to it's full potential. But you're wrong because perception is reality. It's one thing to fly under the radar as a fringe Top 25 team that can play the "nobody believed in us" card. It's another thing to lose to a DII team and be ridiculed nationwide to the point where you can't find a college basketball fan or pundit who thinks we're going to win 20 games right now.
I have to now listen to Doug Gottlieb, Dana O'Neill, Pat Forde and all of the other Cuse-haters make snide comments for the next three months because nothing we do in that time we erase the stink of this loss. Only if we make strides in the Big East will everyone be able to look back and laugh about this. Otherwise, the season hasn't even started yet and we've already defined it. Awesome.
Alright, Wednesday...what have you got for me? The SU lacrosse team was arrested in Tijuana for orchestrating a cockfighting ring? The SU volleyball team is responsible for swine flu? The Carrier Dome is being renamed the Poulon Weedeater Dome? Bring it on...I'm finally ready.
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Ah...
I haven’t heard anyone talking about Virginia or Maryland losing to that FCS team recently. These things blow over pretty quickly. In fact, I can’t remember which one it was that lost.
Suspending players is viewed as a positive too. Shows that we are doing our job to pretend that the NCAA cares about something other than money and wins.
And poor MW comes out looking like the wimp here.
It’s news today, but within a few days only the trolls will have any benefit from it.
As for Gottlieb… the more I listen to him, the more I think he tends to be right. If we deserve to make the tourney, we’ll make it. If not, we wont.
by ezcuse on Nov 4, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd be surprised....
…if this blows over. Michigan losing to App State didn’t blow over all season. Hell, it still hasn’t blown over. The only reason people aren’t talking about Virginia and Maryland losing to FCS teams is because Virginia and Maryland are bad teams in a weak conference. I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re reminded of this all season (“man, that’s a bad loss…but at least they weren’t like Syracuse and lost to a D2 team!”).
Who knows what effects this will have on the team going forward. There evidently isn’t much leadership on this team, so who’s to say listening to themselves being the laughing stock of college basketball won’t cripple them mentally? They better hope they’re not a bubble-team come March, because even though it was an exhibition, all you need is to give one dick committee member any reason to keep SU out. Here’s your reason.
I agree with ezcuse…I don’t seem to mind Gottlieb anymore. Guy is just brutally honest. I don’t think he goes out of his way to hate Syracuse. He at least has said positive things about Cuse. Dana O’Neill??? I don’t think I’ve ever read one positive word from her. And don’t be surprised if when talking about SU this season, she finds ways to throw this loss in.
by Matt M. on Nov 4, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Football's a bit different though
Does anyone right now remember some of the awful exhibition losses Kentucky has had over the past few seasons?
by wildcatlh on Nov 4, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crucial difference...
…between the SU situation and Maryland losing to JMU/Michigan losing to App. State. Those games COUNTED.
by OrangeNYC on Nov 4, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side
Syracuse men’s cross country team won Big East. That makes everything better, right? RIGHT?!
by SUrunner06 on Nov 4, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Right
Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician - The Syracuse blog that cares.
by Sean Keeley on Nov 4, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
coach fox’s daughter… well lets just say her last name suits her.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 4, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got that right...
Yo RyanWk628 what sport did you play at Cuse…I ran track so I’m curious
by JRSu1 on Nov 4, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I rowed, so not really ever at Manley unless we were sick haha.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 4, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its an exhibition game. Jimmy B played man the whole time. I dont think Jim knows anything about man to man D. Did anyone notice the alternating point guards experiment at the end? Even in crunch time we were still trying new things. We were in foul trouble the entrie time and Jim didnt get upset once! He even made some jokes with the refs.
I dont think anyone but Wes took this game seriously last night. That being said, they should still have pride.
Hats off to LeMoyne. They played great. Looked like a solid Mid Major, not a D2 school.
Im pretty sure our lacrosse team lost an exhibition to lemoyne a couple years ago… then went on to win 2 national titles.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 4, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
True, but...
Le Moyne lacrosse competes for a National title every year and is rich with local lax talent. Le Moyne basketball is a middle of of the pack team in the DII Northeast-10 Conference that hasn’t made it to the DII tournament in years.
by shandeezy7 on Nov 4, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No idea where the idea that SU lax lost to LeMoyne one of their championship years keeps coming from.
2009: SU 13- LeMoyne-6
2008: SU 9 LeMoyne- 3
by Orange22 on Nov 5, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit happens
Something like this happens to some good team every year. That’s part of the beauty of college basketball – if a team’s shots are falling, anyone can win. That said, perhaps with the exception of Johnson, no one – including Boeheim – took this game completely seriously. Which doesn’t make it any less embarrassing, but it does make it less likely to portend future losses. Since when does Boeheim play man to man for a whole game? It shouldn’t matter, since that’s how they practice, but this team, more than either of the teams from the last two years, is really built to run a nasty 2-3 zone.
Too bad it happened on a slow sports night. Anyway, everyone take a deep breath and chill out. This is still a good team. I don’t think they will soon forget the embarrassment of last night and that is a very, very good thing for a team that perhaps is a little light on leadership right now.
by DMF on Nov 4, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least
It’s not the WORST loss ever. That would be Chaminade beating the #1 ranked Virginia Cavaliers. Of course this one doesn’t count.
At least it happened this year when it doesn’t count and not last year when it did.
Still hurts though.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Nov 4, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs













