and if so, u must remember, those offenses, well maybe hurley and scharr somewhat, but basic, marvin graves, mcpherson, and mcnabb in no way resembled the types of qbs that have been populating the dome recently.one reason, its lots easier to find some cloner dropback passer who can m anage a game" rather then a dynamic opton guy who can throw bombs on the run. and its not just like nebraska , VT, wvu, and navy/airforce ,, orygun"that are trying to recruit these guys now. lots of schools are out there. and i was wishing that marrrone would actually show some iniative, and creative play calling. for a change. if we wanted the same ole stale and boring nfl offense that never takes chances, we could have kept grob! and most other schools seem to be doing just fine, w ith out all the silly dress codes marrone seems intent on. cept, of c ourse for say navy, usaf academy, west point. i would submit u put your thinking cap on and check on the scores that GT/wishbone, and orygun/spread run opton, rolled up vs usc and vanderbilt. granted, vanderbilt is bottom feeder road kill in the might sec most of the years, but rolling up 613 yards vs USC?that is smoking!i dont see a big future for any of these characters from the nfl here in college football. the only reason weis has not been fired is they still owe him like 12 million. its ovious he dont care for beamer ball"-defense, run, and special teams.i submit also, that rutgers, pitt and ct, playing the pro set, flat out would be torched every time they play say bama and usc. big east teams are never, ever gonna match say UT/OK/USC/BAMA/LSU talent levles. as the big 11 has found out many times, they simply cant play pro set smash mouth and win vs USC on any level.so far, marrone is not gonna be confused with kelly from cinci, kelly from orygun".. urban meyer, rodriquez. i personally feel at this point,if we had hired d’addoizo from the gators, kelly from oregon, or say even the UB coach, we would be at least 5-3. as marrone admits, its about putting a winning product on the field. that means offenses that outquicks, out maneuvers bigger stronger teams who go 2-3 deep to our one.that does not mean confusion when a typical" nfl plan simply wont work. and i am really sick of all this dink pass wco nfl stuff, flare passes, bubble screens, blah blah, that guy slike weise, marrone, wannstead are so fond of. gotta get innovative for a change. there is absolutely nothing su has shown that all the defense coaches they are playing have not seen countless times every sunday for years. and marrone of all folks should have realized that the only thing thats gonna win for schools like wvu, su, navy, kansas, ole mizzou.. is some kind of opton , triple, spread pass, spread run, that negates the raw talent of schools at the top, the big dogs, non?

not always true, since i think inmost cases, both the green bay townies" and the cleveland b rowns fans have been exposed to some really bad years, still supported the team in large numbers regardless. i personally have seen the same thing in charlottesville,va, the local red necks dont identify at all with UVA and actually root for VT in the game every year.it does not help that cept for say like ESF forestry and conservation school, the average upstate ny rural and working class ala syracuse, buffalo, rochester, et al, does not i dentify with su at all. i know for a fact, that several of our local kids, way back when,were never recruited sucessfully by su. shane conlan, penn state, bill bergey, arkansas state, and marv hubband, colgate, they all were quite sucessfull with the raiders, eagles, etc. infact,they just had a kid from clymer, ny, here in chautaua qu and cattaraugus area, southwest tier, big fullback at michigan state, set all kinds of td records, never sucessfully recruited to su.. the only one kid i can think of recently, actually was recruited by grob, of all folks, the reciever who just quit the team.

guffaw…. well i do think many folks connected with UVA with be bright enough to comprendez vous/capisce’/versteh/comprendos that EIRE" stands for ye ould sod..namely IRELAND! IN GAELIC translated into english.of which i have been to several times, country rosscommon is home to some of the ancesters. naturally, whenever i am there, i am not estupido enough to state i root for the ORANGEMAN" or orangepeople/volk, whatever in this day and age of politcal correct thought. i might well add, apart from the esf forestry /conservation dept, having worked for both USFS in ca, and NPS back in ny, is quite highly ranked. very highly ranked, as is of course cornell ag/conservation. however, to digress.. i have serius doubts that the average su student would gain entrance in other categories to UVA,even if they were instate.pour le example, the law school.. including provost marshall JAG school that even other countries military send their personnal to attend. i also know that UVA has the highest % of black students of any university in the usa.as far as u taking the high road, balderdash! hopefully i wont stoop to vile obscenitys such as your impassioned rants and diatribe. however, i m not forgetting the disgraceful way that the kid recruited, the qb -from william rainey comm college outside of chicago land, was dismissed from scholarship consideraton by the present junta/regime. and i thought it was somewhat shabby the way they did not welcome back with open arms, the in state kid, who wanted to transfer, rb, from central florida back to ny. u have happily and conviently forgot these matters. and last but not least, with all your pitiless whining about losing 21 players, most of them were probably 2nd string in say a bottom feeder program in the mac, for example anyways. also, if u got a genius coach.. they take what they have and win,, after all,coaching is not just recruiting. i might well add, as far as recruits.. that also left 20+slots open for juco kids. say from CA? big time juco football programs out there, many of them, considering there is like what?107 jucos inCA? and u have a kid whose academic and behavoir problems are resolved.. who has 2 extra years of emoitional and physical maturity , as well as 2 additional years of coaching also. the only kid i can remember marrone trying to place from juco ranks, quit football entirely, not exactly a glowing recomendation for coach marrone and his staff. who really are not gonna win big time trying to do a old as the hills pro set offense , even in the big east-muchless opponents from the big 11 .do u serius think that when we play usc in future, marrones pro set formation is gonna outscore theirs? a school that last year had, what? 5 5 star halfback recruits from hs alone??? and by now, the unlike at arkansas when it started, the wildcat" is widely copied.. nothing new or innovative so far. in fact, a team that despite all the nonsense with dress codes and discipline.. reminds me remarkebly of the grobsters teams.. interceptions, penalites, fumbles, u name it.and the same arguments u made, deju vu..i heard them all when the grobster took over. for at least th e first couple of years.

 and i believe, that usually in all public university rankings,unlike cornell and su, which after all are mostly private, cept for esf forestry or cornell ag/conservation and labor relations board dept, that UVa annually is ranked say between 2-4#. right up there with michigan, UNC chapel hill..uc berkeley.. non??

incoherent only to folks from new joisey" i would surmise. the same kind of people who booed the naval academy when they stepped on the rutgers football field. a state which sets a standard to tasteless behavoire, including the ex governor .i merely deconstructed the beginning slanderous statement concerning su fans in general. and after the denouement down in pittsburgh today, i think anyone in their right mind , after 5 years is sick of bubble screens.. drop back pocket passers, and coaches win big time experience in the nfl!

coopers vater- was deeply hurt by your personal attack using the bad words. gonna tell the principal on ya! guffaw.. and no, i doubt u did know that eire meant ireland. its a wonder u yourself knew how to spell erie". u strike me as somebody who religiously watched all the andy rooney goes to the U" movies on ted turners channel and has knute rockne’s " win won for the gipper ridiculous monalougue ala ronald ray gun forever imbedded in your stream of cousiousness. and i am not sorry if i offended u.. your whole smaltzy speech was a travesty of all known literary values!