Mike Williams Was About To Be Suspended Again (Updated)
by Sean Keeley on Nov 3, 2009 3:19 PM EST
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PrintDoug Marrone announced today that running back Antwon Bailey, defensive end Torrey Ball and offensive guard Andrew Tiller have been suspended for a violation of team rules and will not play against Pittsburgh (He also announced that Jared Kimmel is done for the year with season-ending knee surgery). Now with rumors swirling that Mike Williams was about to be suspended for something that went down over the weekend...is all of this connected?
Maybe, maybe not but according to ESPN's Joe Schad, Williams was involved in an incident:
Mike Williams had a latenight vehicle incident after the last gm that was going to lead to another suspension
Let the updates begin soon...
Update 1: Donnie spoke with the SU office of athletics who knows nothing of Mike Williams returning to the team. Then again, take that with a grain of salt as well.
Update 2: The money shot. Er, update. Courtesy of Conor Orr at the D.O. From New York State Police -- Williams, Tiller, Ball and Bailey in accident 5:30 Sunday morning. Tiller (driver) not being charged. Well then, that settles that. As to how that progressed into Williams leaving the program while the other three remain...TBD.
Update 3: The D.O. keeps the details coming.
A car driven by Syracuse football player Andrew Tiller was rear ended early Sunday morning near Lenox, N.Y., New York State Trooper Jack Keller said Tuesday afternoon. Police do not suspect alcohol was involved in the accident, which occurred at 5:30 a.m.
Three other SU players were in the car with Tiller, including wide receiver Mike Williams, who quit the team Monday. Backup running back Antwon Bailey and backup defensive end Torrey Ball were the other passengers.
Tiller was taken to the hospital as a precaution but no major injuries seem to have been sustained.
Update 4: For those who are still holding out hope that Williams will return to SU...this probably confirms the opposite.
Update 5: How bout some details on the crash itself, which was not the SU players' fault.
Troopers say their car was rear-ended by a tractor trailer at about 5:30 a.m. Sunday. The four players were traveling westbound on the Thruway near Chittenango. Tiller was taken to University Hospital for neck and back injuries not believed to be life-threatening.
Police are still investigating but no tickets have been issued. According to police reports, the players in the car were the victims of the crash.
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Rumor is....
…that it has to do with a trip to Mohegan Sun that violated team rules. I have zero knowledge of the veracity of that, but letting you know one of the more popular stories circulating….
by Bernie Fine is the Man on Nov 3, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
well i have a feeling that casinos are frowned upon
kind of like a strip club, and i think the halloween factor made it doubly bad in the eyes of dougie
1) how would the coaches know? 2) whats wrong with casinos and strip clubs? I went to both during my time at SU…. during my season.
If there was an "incident"
that’s how they know.
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That and...
…given the NCAA’s aversion to gambling, or being associated with gambling, compliance officers are probably told not to let their players go to casinos.
i have no problems with casinos and strip clubs
(Well maybe P-Found) But it appears they are not very high on Coach’s acceptable recreational activities list
Don't forget
You are supposed to be 21+ to be able to get into a casino; I don’t know the ages of all the players but Bailey and Ball are sophomores and probably not yet 21.
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If HCDM says casinos, strip clubs and the like are off limits to players
then I’m all for it. Yeah, it might seem like a hard ass thing to do. But these high profile athletes need to be kept in check both on and off the court.
For example, as good of a coach Jim Boeheim is, from what we’ve seen over the years, he doesn’t exactly keep the players in check. And it seems like quite frequently one thing has led to another and suddenly our players are sitting in front of a judge of some sort.
I’d prefer to have that as little as possible for all the SU sports, and it sounds like Coach Marrone is working to make that the case for football.
I like the idea of Mohegan Sun better
ROAD TRIP!!!
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Can I get a beer while I lose hand after hand to this Nazi blackjack dealer? No? OK, how about a kick in the nuts then?
by Bernie Fine is the Man on Nov 3, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Wait a minute
Now there are rumors that MW is coming back? Or at least trying to. Jeez. You think he is having Quit Regret? You think that the day after, he’s realized how much he’s hurt his pro chances?
Let’s look at the list of “impulsive” acts that Mike may be or has been regretting in the past few weeks.
-initial violation of rules that led to Akron suspension
-the now-famous facebook post
-the second violation
-the actual quitting
Mike, I know you are only 20, and everyone makes bad choices at some point during college, but please for your own sake develop a little perspective.
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well thats what happens
when your family reminds you that you are going to lose millions of dollars by quitting…
If Williams is Actually Trying to Get Back
Why would marrone announce at the presser yesterday he was gone? With a situation like this, you’d think DM would have an idea MW would want to at least reconsider. By keeping quiet about it for a few days, he could have avoided some of this circus. I’m guessing it is 1 of 2 things
1) A rookie mistake, or a case of being “too honest” with the press
2) DM has had enough of the MW dog and pony show – Mike comes in – quits, Doug asks are you sure? Mike says yes – and Doug decides he’s had enough of the back and forth with the player and tells the world.
If he’s not at the end of his rope with Mike – then being quiet for a few days would have helped out a lot.
I think the backlash from all the people is what made MW realize it was dumb to quit.
Let’s say Doug doesn’t announce that MW quits. They have practice and the world keeps moving. Do you get all the quotes from former coaches and his ‘mentors’ saying thing like “this is the first I’ve heard of it” or “this doesn’t make sense”. I doubt he would have called people and said “good news, I quit today”. I think the only reason he asked back on the team is because news got out he quit and people around him who were either looking out for him or want to be a hanger on when he is in the NFL attempted to talk som sense into him and show him he was acting beyond stupid when looking at long term prospects.
Agree with Otis Hill
Plus, by announcing then, there was a split of attention between the Dome booing issue, the Paulus issue, and MW. Kind of works out good for MW too.
It led to mike leaving
because he was already suspended once and didn’t want to deal with that shit anymore. Pretty much he could get away with anything under G-Rob and didn’t like the no nonsense Marrone attitude.
But it’s all good because he’s coming back…
Though Coach Marrone
also had a tough go at it when he got to Syracuse. I remember that from Donna Ditota’s profile before the season started. He almost quit when he was a player; some of the older guys thought he was kinda jerky and pre-madonna-ish (in a 1984 Bronx way taboot). The point is…so maybe he would still offer Mike the chance of redemption…again.
by lemonysnicket9 on Nov 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Posted this on Syracuse.com
Mike Williams is a guy who came to this school… was kicked out for cheating… was given a second chance by a new coach… was suspended for violating team rules… was reinstated…. violated team rules again… quit in lieu of suspension… asked to be back on the team… was voted back on the team… and then is STILL not going to play because he is not “wanted.”
Oh.
I guess that whole recruiting… reinstating…reinstating… allowing a vote to rescind his quitting… and then being voted back on is proof of not being wanted.
There is a reason the vote was “close.”
Wait a minute, where did this voted back on the team business come from?
This is the first I’m hearing of this.
It's the rumor going around.
And that it was a close vote.
But the rumor after that is that he decided to stay quit anyway.
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