So, about the crowd.
by agentdp009 on Oct 31, 2009 7:24 PM EDT
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PrintI need your help on this one. You can guess or give a truthful, honest answer. Anyway,I thought the discounts and free student tickets were gonna mean a packed Dome(by the way, I actually had money and brought my ticket). To keep a long story short, the cheap tickets meant nothing and only slightly over 33,000 showed up. Tickets for students were free and their were many discounts. So I need to know, why some people (especially in the student secetion) didn't show.
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My thoughts
1) if you spend money on something, you usually go. If you get it for free, you dont care as much. Like “Im not out any money if I sleep in.”
2) Last night most students were shit hammered. Its not an excuse, but Im sure many slept through. Plus they got the game on tv anyway (back to my idea of black out the students)
3) They expected a blow out.
Still it sucks. The students are so disenfranchised. I personally was considering driving up from CT for this one until a lady friend decided to come visit. This was a huge game and with a packed dome behind us, I think SU could have taken it.
3) They expected a blow out.
This is what I have been thinking as the main reason it wasn’t packed, it’s not really a good reason to me for it’s when the team needs you the most is when your playing a much better team.
Truth be told that I would have been to that game in a heart beat if i was back up in NY, not that extra few people would have made a big impact.
First our pleasures die - and then Our hopes, and then our fears - and when These are dead, the debt is due, Dust claims dust - and we die too.
even if we lost, I always viewed it as how often do you get to see one of the best teams in the country play in person?
That’s another way to look at it, and really what’s the harm in going? If we lose then that’s just what is suppose to happen, if we win then is one of the biggest upsets of year.
First our pleasures die - and then Our hopes, and then our fears - and when These are dead, the debt is due, Dust claims dust - and we die too.
Think about
How many people would be disappointed that they didn’t get to rush the field after that win. B/c if there’s one thing Cuse fans are better at than anything, it’s rushing the field/court after a big win.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Nov 1, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
It's pitiful, and it's shameful
There are no excuses. The students need to go to these games. Period.
It's gotten to the point that the excuses are worse than the attendance itself
- Too many home games
- Too many home games in a row
- Too many nooners
- Team sucks (the worst excuse of them all)
In four years as a student, I missed all of one football or basketball home game (I had a Bio 121 exam for a Tuesday night hoops game against UConn). Probably missed only a half-dozen home lacrosse game in that period as well.
Hell, I even got season tickets for football the year after I graduated and never missed a home game. And I was driving up from fucking Connecticut.
Just go to the games. It’s a part of college. I don’t care if you don’t like football or if you hungover as shit. With the nooners you’re done by 3:30 and can nap until you go out and look for poon on Euclid at 10:00.
There’s just no more excuses for the students.
agreed
too many nooners, too many home games in a row. it sucks for fans and im sure it doesnt help the players either. theres a certain excitement to road games, its exciting visiting someplace new. its a break from the mundane, everyday grind. you get some energy and i know at least when i played in high school there was always a part of me that just wanted to stick it to the opposing fans. to shut them down. i want to see these guys go out and do that, even if i have to watch it on ESPN360 or the big ten network. plus then i wouldnt have to think about our empty student section.
~Luke B.
agreed.
I myself had an interesting Friday night on Hollow’s eve and still managed to wake up at 10:30 and get to the student section…I too don’t understand why others can’t get out of bed. I’m an architecture major, get twenty-five hours of sleep during the week tops, and I’ve been to every game. It’s depressing that our students don’t give a crap.
Pathetic
The attendance is disgraceful. As an alum, there’s no excuse for the students to not show up. None. As for the townies, what the hell else are you going to do in Syracuse? Get your lazy asses to the Dome and fill it up. They have so many cheap tickets available…I wish I lived closer.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Our fans suck, plain and simple
I don’t even go to Syracuse and I haven’t missed a game this year. Students have absolutely no excuse.
Although, the today it wasn’t the attendance that really pissed me off. It was the classless booing when Paulus took the field in the second half. I’ve never been more embarrassed by our fans.
Busy with school?
It was noon on a Saturday on Halloween weekend…no schoolwork was being done. I saw more kids at one Livingston house party last night than I did in the student section yesterday. It’s really depressing…I mean really, who doesn’t show up to see us play a top 5 team for free?
Syracuse '12
by blackknight76 on Nov 1, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I thought they were talking about all the games.
Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Someone in the game thread comments said
I do not go to games when my team plays poorly. It is how I protest.
and
I still watch games. I am still a fan. But I won’t give my money to D.Gross.
This really grinds my gears and I hope it’s not the general sentiment of the fans that didn’t attend the game yesterday.
If we’re talking about a professional team where ticket sales and merchandise sales go directly to the owner’s pocket, I can understand this. Especially if you feel that owner isn’t doing enough for the team to win. For example, I think it’s about effing time Redskins fans stop going to games so Dan Snyder will get the point that he can’t personally manage a football team. (and I hate the Redskins!)
But this form of protest doesn’t make much sense for our football team this year. DOCTOR Gross doesn’t get a portion of the ticket sales; he works on a salary. He oversees the entire athletics department (which, from what I can tell, except for football, is doing quite well under his watch). He has brought in a new coach and is doing what he can to try and resurrect the football program.
So I’m not sure what boycotting the games accomplishes at this point. Yes, he made a bad hire with Greg Robinson. People are angry about the state of the football program. That point is already clear, and whether or not you show up to the game this year, it is clear that the fans want the team to start winning again. But showing up this year would show that the fans actually do care about the team and are excited that DOCTOR Gross is working to turn things around.
But instead, people aren’t showing up. And instead of looking like a protest we look like a bunch of fair-weather fans who, when push comes to shove, couldn’t care less about football. Well done.
My four years at SU...
…coincided with GRob’s 4. Freshman year, I attended all but 1 game. Sophomore year, I missed a couple more. Junior and senior years? I only made the trek when my father, an SU alum, made the trip down.
When all was said and done, I saw 1 SU win in the dome. Against Buffalo. In 2005. I saw more wins than that—3 times more, in fact—in the 3 football games I attended before I enrolled.
Now let’s talk basketball. Freshman year, I only attended a few games, but by the time the 2008-2009 season rolled around, I didn’t miss a single game.
Why the difference? As a student, it’s tough to effectively budget time. If I was going to take some me-time, I was going to get as much out of it as I could. And to be honest, sitting frustrated on a metal bench surrounded by other frustrated fans for 3 and a half hours just lost its appeal. In fact, there were a few times when I made the trek back to my apartment wishing I had skipped the game and finished up that essay I was chipping away at.
But when it came to basketball, I could expect a competitive game, and, in turn, a good 2 hours spent in the Dome. It was fun. I left, more often than not, with a smile on my face, and never regretted setting an evening or afternoon aside for hoops. The same went for lax.
Feel free to question my school spirit or call me a fair weather fan or dish out whatever other criticism you can muster, but it doesn’t change the fact that students are looking to get the most out of there time. Free tickets or not, I can see the appeal in attending some good Halloween parties and sleeping in over getting up (relatively) early only to see a couple of red zone turnovers and poor offensive execution effectively quash any chance of an SU win.
So is my excuse “worse than the attendance”? Sure. What kind of fan was I? If I truly bled Orange, I’d have been at every game, win or lose, right? I give all the props in the world to fans who are that dedicated, but you can’t expect that level of football intensity out of everyone. It just is what it is.
In a perfect world, every game would be packed. And a packed Dome would certainly better SU’s chances of winning. And a winning team would better fill the Dome. But now I’m being an idealist.
Like it or not, winning makes a substantial difference. I was as frustrated as the next to see a lot of silver in the student section Saturday, but come on, can you honestly blame them? Students have a lot of their plates—well, those that choose to, at least, but that’s another topic—and as much as I’d like to, I can’t hold it against somebody who truly believes a night on Euclid and morning in bed will make for a better weekend. I was, after all, in similar shoes just a year ago.
Here’s to basketball.
At the end
of the Robinson era, it was just tough to even follow this team. I myself had a waned interest in the team during the ‘06 and ’07 seasons. Now that he’s gone, there’s new optimism in the program and at least you can say the games have potential.
Nobody wants to see their team lose 55-13. But from what we’ve seen this season up to Saturday didn’t suggest that the score would be that bad. I just wish I still lived in the Syracuse area to be able to go to the games.
Without Gerry McNamara we wouldn't have won 10 f-- games, not 10
by PoetryInMoten on Nov 2, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
There is optimism and I’m loving it. Weird thing is that it’s such a foreign feeling that I’m still a little stuck in the last 4 years.
But on the other hand, I caught the first game in a bar upstate and felt no shame in an SU hoodie despite the ending. Tthough the USF game I attended was a bummer, there’s new life there. It wasn’t a 90’s game, but I don’t think the school landed another dud. And I’m looking forward to the next time I go—I love the Syracuse experience as a grad with a few friends still around. It’s a four hour drive there for me, but it’ll still be worth another fall trip.
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