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Of Turner Gill And "New York's College Team"

Ball State was undefeated coming into tonight's MAC Championship game.  The storyline was supposed to be that the 13-0 Cardinals would head to the Humanitarian Bowl to play equally undefeated Boise State in arguably the most-anticipated non-BCS conference team bowl game ever.  Then Ball State chickened out.  And that angered the college football Gods.  It angered them greatly.  And so, God sent his own personal warrior to lay vengeance upon thee.

Buffalo 42, Ball State 24.

Turner Gill led his Bulls to their first-ever MAC Conference championship, their first-ever win over Ball State (1-7 all-time).  They did it by outscoring the Cardinals 35-14 in the second half and forcing five turnovers.

When I logged in this evening (at 10:30pm on a Friday night...sorry), I had a Facebook message waiting for me from reader Jon. H that read:

If Dr. Gross doesn't start slinging some serious cash at Gill by the end of the week, his position as AD should be "re-evaluated". I don't care if he waits until after his bowl game or does it now, but he should be the next SU coach.

I was a little confused as it seems like a random sentiment to send over on a Friday evening.  Then I saw the Buffalo score and it all came together.

If SU wasn't serious about making a play for Turner Gill before, they better be now.  Cause guess what...if Mike Leach does leave for Auburn, I guarantee you Turner Gill is on their shortlist now.  I bet someone over at Auburn, Mississippi State, Boise State, East Carolina and any other school with a vacancy or expecting a vacancy is compiling info on Gill right now. 

Whatever SU could have gotten him for last week is probably a couple hundred K less than what it'll take now.  I wouldn't say he's priced out by any means but every week the "legend of Turner Gill" grows now, the steeper it gets.  HE JUST WON THE MAC WITH BUFFALO AND HE BEAT AN UNDEFEATED TOP 15 TEAM TO DO IT!  That's crazy-talk.

Skip Holtz's Pirates play tomorrow and by Sunday, everyone should know where they're spending their Christmas and New Year's days.  It also means the time for pussyfooting around is over.  DOC, get a deal done ASAP.  If Holtz is your man, don't wait for the award banquet.  Or at least put it out there that you're leaning towards Gill so Holtz starts sweating.   If Gill is your man, make the move.  There's no reason to wait any longer.

Unless Tommy Tuberville is making a play behind the scenes, I think it's pretty clear who the top choices are (Gill, Holtz, Locksley) and who isn't (everyone else).  As a great man once said, "The time for talking is over.  The time for doing has begun."

Seriously though, everyone associated with Syracuse football..Buffalo is officially better than us right now.  W.T.F.

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TG is as close to a sure thing as its gets

-His recruiting contacts will not have to change at all, he may even bring some of his recruits (which G Rob was also after) with him to SU to salvage some sort of a class.
-Buffalo is upstate with out the history, in an NFL town. He knows something about recruiting G Rob didnt.
-This guy is so driven its not even funny. Even if he leaves in 4 years, the program will be in much better shape.
-His teams play hard. SU could have been in a bowl right now if they had had a few second halfs like TG’s inspired Buffalo team last night.
-He is an african american and would be a great fit at a school know for giving african americans opportunities.
-Everything he did at nebraska
-The guy was a black QB which Im sure McNabb and Don McPherson would respect and endorse.
-There is something about the guy.. As a former student athlete, you realize you have to look at a coach through a recruits eyes and when I see TG, thats a guy Id like to play for. Hes motivated, excited and played the game as well as anyone. Recruits will connect to him, and our undermanned team might start over achieving.

-Lets not sell him short on what he did either… He just knocked off a top 15 team with BUFFALO! A school with D3 level facilities and is horribly underfunded. He won the MAC, a league full of schools that have beaten us, with a team with ZERO tradition, history, notable alums or expectations. The guy was giving an opportunity, came into a bad situation and made the most of it, far exceeding everyone’s expectations.

I would love for him to get an opportunity at SU.

On Skip Holtz: ECU has no one from a state north of VA on the roster. Why does everything think he can still recruit the north east?

by ryanwk628 on Dec 6, 2008 10:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think there’s a question that Holtz can recruit the Northeast. He did it at UConn. UConn was a bad I-AA team when he got there. By the time he left, he had taken them to the playoffs, and built the foundation that led to their move to I-A and their current success under Randy Edsall.

I still want Gill as the #1 choice. But Holtz wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize.

by wildcatlh on Dec 6, 2008 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i hear you there

but that was a while ago, I doubt he has been in touch with those coaches. Most of the east coast Delaware Wing T or Pro Style high schools have switched to spreads and many brought in new coaches who know those offenses. Its going to be a lot of new faces.

My point about Gill was that he has been recruiting the area and his Rolodex will be up to date.

by ryanwk628 on Dec 6, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the cuse would be lucky to get Gill. He is an up and coming coach. No one knew Buffalo had a college team until he came there

by mikebeau on Dec 6, 2008 10:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great points

Gill seems like the real deal. I’d be very excited to have him roaming the sidelines.

by Cody K on Dec 6, 2008 6:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

St. Johns

Speaking of New York’s College team, I wonder if Dr. Gross knows that he’s got even more competition. I just saw a commercial for St. Johns Basketball which said “We are New York’s team. We are Saint Johns”.

by Orange22 on Dec 7, 2008 8:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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