Doug Marrone Gets His First Lesson In Grossonomics

by Sean Keeley on Dec 12, 2008 11:34 AM EST Comment 26 comments

That's DOCTOR Daryl Gross, finding new and exciting ways to overshadow his more-important coaches by making it all about him. What would be the point of hiring a new coach if Gross couldn't put a personal quote from himself front and center along with his name in fancy script wirting like he's King Louis XIV? That's exactly what our football program needs...more cursive writing.

Seriously, 99% of college football programs DON'T do ego-caressing nonsense like this, right? I'm not crazy, am I?

And then there's the first line of SUAthletics.com's story announcing Marrone has the new head coach:

Syracuse University graduate Doug Marrone, a former pro performer and successful coach in the Division I collegiate ranks and the National Football League, is returning to his alma mater as the program’s 28th head coach.

Former pro performer? What the hell is a pro performer? He played football professionally...you are allowed to say that. You don't need to jazz it up.

Kudos where Kudos are due, DOCTOR Gross isn't anywhere in the story. I'm sure that will be remedied soon enough.

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Now that it’s official…

…whatever you think of this hire, for the love of all things good and pure, give the man a chance. For once we have a Northeast guy with a genuine love for Syracuse, with a great offensive mind, something this team has needed for years. By indications I’ve read he was a very good recruiter back when he was in college (with Georgia Tech and a few other teams).

Hopefully he brings along a few members of that Saints staff (a lot of them have college experience) to be his coordinators, and he can bring this team forward.

Hey, at least he can’t be worse than Greggers, right?

by wildcatlh on Dec 12, 2008 11:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I’m hopeful about SU football for the first time in a long time

by Sean Keeley on Dec 12, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Saints staff

Keep them in New Orleans, we don’t need another failed NFL experiment. Honestly, this announcement brought NO optimism to me.

by GrossSuperman on Dec 12, 2008 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Axe's Post

Does anyone have any clue who Axe is referring here?

By the way, for those of you worried about recruiting. One of my media colleagues may be close to confirming this story so I don’t want to steal their thunder. But it appears Marrone is bringing someone along with him for the coaching staff that would be a MAJOR get for recruiting purposes.

http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf/2008/12/looks_like_doug_marrone_is_the.html

Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?

by Cody K on Dec 12, 2008 11:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ahhhhhhh.....Coach O

I spoke too soon. Holy shit, that would be……..amazing.

by Cody K on Dec 12, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be Ed Orgeron

by Sean Keeley on Dec 12, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Orgeron is a nice pickup indeed. I assume he’d be the defensive coordinator.

by wildcatlh on Dec 12, 2008 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ed Orgeron

Head recruiter at USC and works for the Saints.

Personally I hate this pick and I’m looking forward to not rooting for Syracuse Football ever again. This is such a garbage move in my opinion it sickens me. We will not get better until Dr Gross is gone. By then it might be too late. I sense us going to D2

Here’s to Syracuse Basketball, that is all we can really claim with out being laughed at.

by JRSu1 on Dec 12, 2008 11:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I meant...I hate Doug Maronne (already)

by JRSu1 on Dec 12, 2008 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

See, this is what I said about giving him a chance. Do you really want the team’s suckitude to be a self-fulfilling prophecy?

F’n A, I mean… c’mon people.

by wildcatlh on Dec 12, 2008 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I gave Dr. Gross a chance.

And he f’d up.

by JRSu1 on Dec 12, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Then go root for another team. Seriously. I don’t get the pessimism. What the heck did you expect, that we were going to get Pete Carroll as coach with Bob Stoops and Urban Meyer as assistants?

by wildcatlh on Dec 12, 2008 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Head Coach

All I wanted (and we need) is someone with head coaching experience and someone who has actually been in the college game. This stupid NFL coach experiment is a waste of our time. We will be no better off 4 years from now than we are today because the formula that Daryl Gross seems to like doesn’t work. You can’t take any NFL guy and turn him into a good college coach. They got lucky out there at USC with Pete Carroll, I just don’t see it happening here in Syracuse.

by GrossSuperman on Dec 12, 2008 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That should read “someone who has actually been in the college game recently”

by GrossSuperman on Dec 12, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I expected Gross to pick a proven winner. Not someone who would outshine him. You are throwing a lot of faith in a guy who on paper looks like exactly like Greg Robinson. He doesn’t call the plays in New Orleans, you can say all you want about how it takes some know how to be labeled an OC but when that final drive needs to be played out Sean Payton was calling the shots. If he brings in a recruiter ok fine…but this was USC’s recruiter. Recruiting for a big name school that is consistently in the top 10 nationally does not mean you can recruit at a school that needs rebuilding.

I wanted Turner Gill. He’s on the rise right down the freakin road in our own damn back yard. When Auburn showed waivering interest we should of jumped all over it. The guy can recruit in the NE, the guy can build a program, the guy can be a head coach. So what if he left after building us into a Big East Champ. When we are good THEN you bring in a guy like Doug Marrone to take over and stay.

by JRSu1 on Dec 12, 2008 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Who says Gill wanted to come here? Maybe he’s waiting things out because he thinks the Nebraska job or another Big XII job might open next year? Who says that Gross didn’t make an offer to him and he said no?

You’re overestimating how good this team is. We SUCK. We’re one of the worst teams in Division I-A. That’s not a situation where many “established” coaches want to go. A team like Syracuse is generally relegated to (a) picking up someone off the scrapheap that nobody else wants, or (b) hiring a fresh face. I’d rather them go with (b) despite the lack of experience.

by wildcatlh on Dec 12, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He also recruited for Ole Miss as their head coach

And admittedly, they sucked when he was there. But this year, the year after he left, the team has done fantastic, mostly due to his recruits. His offense was never very good, but his defense always was and he brought a Top 15 recruiting class to one of the SEC’s whipping boys. Hardly a Top 10 USC team. He can coach defense and he can recruit. If he joins up, that is a big deal. I am optimistic about this hire. Cautiously optimistic, but optimistic nonetheless.

by NOLACuse on Dec 12, 2008 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We couldnt get

Turner Gill. Or anyone else for that matter. The Temple coach was hesitant. I mean we were down to Harvards coach and some coordinators. We found someone who actually WANTS to coach here.

-No one wants to take this job with how deep a hole we are in
-No one wants to work for Gross
-No one wants to be in a school with Cantor
-No one wants to work for a place that suspends a star athlete for the rest of the season for allegedly pushing someone without any evidence

Marrone took this job because he cares so much about the program and believes in it. Good for him and thats the best thing we can get right now.

If you want to throw down a few 100M on new facilities, dome renovations and maybe a giant warm weather bubble (destiny usa haha) then maybe cuse would become a destination again.

by ryanwk628 on Dec 12, 2008 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gill was never offered the job that is the problem. He interviewed for it and didn’t get an offer. I highly doubt Gill walked in there and was like Dr. Gross before we start this interview I don’t want to work here. Now lets continue.. I mean wtf.

Also Cuse has some of the best facilities in the country. I’m a former Cuse athlete, and trust me…we have better facilities at Manley and the football building than some of the other schools I’ve seen.

I’m upset with the Gross with the effort he made. Skip Holtz turned down the job so screw him. Turner Gill just never got an offer and that is terrible. Do I know he would of taken it…no, but he was interested.

I’m sick of this notion that since the guy cares about Syracuse he is going to be great. Last time I checked passion didn’t translate automatically into wins. Trust me, I bleed orange. I want us to have a good football team again. I just think Gross made the wrong choice. This sounds a lot like when G-Rob was hired.

by JRSu1 on Dec 12, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gill didnt want the job

you dont offer a job to someone only to get turned down… or well, if you do (holtz) you dont do it twice in a week. Gill is holding out because he knows he can get a better job in the SEC or Big 12.

The Dome is beyond outdated. Thats why they are looking at plans for a new Stadium. Putting turf in manley is not a football complex. Thats lame. I was an athlete at SU too, and know not to be enamored with whats there. Besides the weight room, its shitty, small and old.

I know its easy to be in love with your school good or bad, but if you look at what UConn, Pitt, Penn State, Cincy and Rutgers have… we are being out classed. There are high schools in Texas that have indoor football practice facilities, but they get more people at their games than SU.

You hire the best guy you can get. Youre not going to get Steve Jobs to work Geek Squad at Best Buy so you settle for the kid with an Associates degree in computer tech.

At least Marrone wants the job.

by ryanwk628 on Dec 12, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs