Jayhawks. We Meet Again.
While there's never a bad time to tell the story of what you were doing when Syracuse defeated Kansas to win the 2003 National Title, today seems particularly apropos. I'll show you mine if you show me yours (in the comments, that is...)
I was living in Manhattan Beach, CA at the time (the southern, beachy tip of LA) and my go-to bar, Sharkeez, was just around the corner. Sharkeez was, and still is, a necessary evil to me.
It can be the best sports bar ever and it can be the worst sports bar ever. It's very no-frills, you order your food from the register so there's no waitresses bugging you. On a busy day you could probably slip in there, grab a seat in the back, watch games all day and never pay a thing. They've got more TVs than you can possibly look at in one sitting.
Sharkeez one big problem is that they're one of those sports bars that's uncomfortable with commercials. So rather than change the audio to a different station when the commercials come on, they flip a switch to a running loop of 80's music. And I don't mean Metallica, I mean the cheesiest, lamest 80's music you can imagine. Think of the songs you least want to hear on a Sunday while you're watching football and those are the songs that Sharkeez plays during each and every commercial break. What's better, it's a manual system so most of the time they don't turn the music off right away when the game comes back on. So you're left listening to Bananarama while the Giants are going for it on fourth down to win the game.
(This doesn't really have anything to do with the story, it's just a rant I've been bottling up for a long time)
So like I said, I had been going to Sharkeez to watch the NCAA Tourney games by myself (cause I'm cool like that) and over the course of the last couple weeks I had befriends some fellow West Coast Cuse people. Some had gone to SU, some were life-long fans from the area. Every game, without planning for it, we were all there. And with every win, we allowed ourselves to get giddier, louder and more excited. Somehow, some way, SU made it to the National Championship and we knew what we were doing.
That night we show up at Sharkeez in full Orange regalia. I'm draped in an orange and blue blanket that my grandmother knitted for me (no homo) and we've all got front row seats in front of the big screen. Funny thing is, the bar is packed. Packed like I've never seen it before. And every single person in there (it seems) is rooting for Kansas.
Was there an LA KU contingent I was unaware of? Was Syracuse just THAT despised that everyone wanted to root against them? Was it just Taco Monday and this was all a coincidence?
The great thing I remember about the game, other than...you know...was that late in the 2nd half, after one-too-many botched commercial music transitions, we all came together to lustfully boo the bar employees into not doing it anymore until the game was over. It was the only time I've ever seen it happen. Thank the Lord.
The game, well, I don't really need to explain what happened, do I? Just watch this...again:
After the final buzzer, we went nuts. Most of the bar got angry and one of our guys almost got into a fight (natch). Cooler heads prevailed and we all went outside to make our obligatory phone calls to family and Syracuse friends so that we could scream "WOOOOOOOOOOOO" into the phone as many times as possible.
We all went back to my place and designated my deck (which overlooked the road) as the official Syracuse Home Base of Manhattan Beach. We screamed at passing cars and pedestrians, egging them on to cheer for the Orange. We waved flags and ran shirtless in the streets. Did all of this through around 1am when it became apparent that my neighbors, not Syracuse fans, were kinda over it. Plus it occurred to me that I wouldn't be excused from work the next day.
The cool thing about the whole experience is that I had made all of these new friends because of it. Random people I never would have interacted with if not for the Orange's magical run. We bonded at supersonic speed and were already looking forward to doing it again for SU football and next season's basketball games.
I never saw them again. Candles in the wind, I suppose we were. You know how it is...sometimes those bonds are best left in the moment. As much as I got to know these people, it all revolved around SU's Tourney run and subsequent championship. I knew where everyone was from, what dorms they lived in and what their favorite beer was but I'm not entirely sure I ever actually learned their names.
Alas, we'll always have Sharkeez and the 2003 National Title. And that stupid commercial music policy...
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Manhattan Beach
Arent you forgetting Hermosa and Redondo as southern LA beaches? Thats as bad as when a girl from Agoura Hills tried to tell me Torrance was not part of LA and Long Beach was closer to San Diego. (it happened)
And didnt Sharkeez burn down last summer in Hermosa then relocate or were there 2?
by ryanwk628 on Nov 25, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't
forget them. But I lived in Man Beach (heehee) so that’s what I was discussing.
Sharkeez in Hermosa burned down, the MB one still stands.
by Sean Keeley on Nov 25, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's
four Sharkeez overall, I believe.
by Sean Keeley on Nov 25, 2008 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same
Went to NYC for the final four games and the bar was packed with Jayhawk fans and my buddy went to Barney’s in West hollywood for the championship and said it was the same.
I will say this. Kansas fans are nice to look at. The girls that is.
by rs27 on Nov 25, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Barney's Beanery
I was there in 2004 the night Boston came back to beat the Yanks – about 50% of the bar were Yanks fans, the other 50% Sox fans. I swear, there was really almost a full-fledged royal rumble that night.
And to cap off the weirdness of the whole thing, it was karaoke night. So they kept playing Sweet Caroline after the game was over.
As a Yanks fan, I came thisclose to engaging in a homicidal Bruce Banner-esque murder spree shortly thereafter. Annnnnnnnnnd I never set foot in the Beanery again.
by Cody K on Nov 25, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beer on remote
I’m a lifelone cuse fan, but I went to school at SUNY Oswego. I was watching it in my suite with my roommates, none of whom were cuse fans. Actually, I don’t know if any them even cared about the game at all. But we’re all sitting around drinking, they’re just chillin but I’m going insane. Then, as the game is reaching the end and I’m thinking that somehow we’re gonna blow it. The ball goes into to the corner, shot goes up and . . .
My roommate put his beer down on the remote. It starts doing a channel search. Can’t do anything. I tried turning off the tv to see if then I could put it back on cbs, but you can’t do that during a channel search. I started running up and down the hall trying to get into people’s rooms to see if they were watching the game. No luck. When I got back to my room it was a commercial and my roommates and all disappeared. I didn’t know we won until the commercial break was over.
by Jerseycuse on Nov 25, 2008 12:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My Story
I had just moved to San Francisco; and at that time, CBS was still broadcasting certain regional games to different parts of the country. I think we were stuck with the UCLA game? So I had to get myself to a sports bar….and quick. And hence I found….the 4th Street Bar and Grill:
Which is basically a crappy sports bar inside the Downtown SF Marriott (@ 4th & Mission). So I proceeded to watch the win over Ok St there. And then the win over Auburn….and then win over Oklahoma – and then – well, you get the picture. I couldn’t mess with the mojo. If I couldn’t get the same table, I had to sit in the same section. The waitress (a hottie FOB from Russia named Olga, no kidding) knew to bring a Bud bucket to the table as soon as I walked in. I became a regular for those three weeks. That bar tolerated my table pounding and hollering quite well. So I came back for the Texas game. And, obviously, the KU game. I was surrounded by accepting friends who knew full well of my ‘Cuse hoops obsession. There were a million places I’d rather watch the game (perhaps Armory Square or the Dome) but this wasn’t too bad. The beer was cold and the victory was pretty F*ing nice!
by Cody K on Nov 25, 2008 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Long, Cold Drive
I will always, always remember the day Syracuse won the championship. I lived in Syracuse my entire life, then went to Niagara University. As a sophomore, we had spent March Madness in the dorm hallway, dragging out a few couches, televisions, a table, and an unhealthy amount of porno mags. (The porn shop a few miles away went out of business and we thought it would be funny if we pooled our funds and bought up the rest of their supply. Thus explains the abundance of issues of “Plumpers” and “Over 50”.)
Most of the people from my floor seemed to be from the Syracuse area, or were just big Syracuse fans. So after Syracuse beat Texas in the Final Four and the celebration died down (Which of course included losing our shirts. I have no idea why getting naked is the preferred method of celebration among guys.), we began trying to hatch a plan to get us to Syracuse to watch the championship game at the Dome. Unfortunately, none of us had cars, although I did have a friend willing to drive from Oswego to Niagara Falls in her Cavalier to pick us up. Then the party wanting to go ballooned from three to ten. At my last check, the Cavalier can barely hold a driver, much less ten people. Luckily a girl in our group, trying to impress her boyfriend, drove to Canandaigua and borrowed her Dad’s Jeep Grand Cherokee. It was going to happen. Ironically, the boyfriend ended up skipping out at the last minute, which jeopardized the trip, until we convinced the girl that driving to Syracuse and partying would be the best revenge.
So all ten of us pile into the Jeep at about noon on Monday. And it was of course fitting that there was a fierce blizzard blowing through. We almost skidded of the road a few times before even hitting the Thruway. So we make it onto the highway and go about 2 exits when we hit another obstacle. A tire pops on the Jeep and we have no spare or boot. We get off the exit for Batavia and find a Wal-Mart, worried that we may be watching this game in the Batavia Holiday Inn. We get a new set of tires put on in two hours, and we all bought face paint for the game along with other necessities (beef jerky). After spending an hour in the Wal-Mart electronics department watching Scooby-Doo (seriously), we were back out on the road battling the blizzard.
A trip that should have taken 3 hours has taken 6 when we pull into a friend’s house at about 8. His mom had ordered pizza for him all, and then we hustled to the Dome. The atmosphere there was unbelievable. There had to be 20,000 people there to watch the game on tv . From an hour out until the game started people were pouring in, cheering and screaming. I was hoarse by half-time. When Forth won the tip, the cheer was as loud as any I had heard at the Dome. The crowd grew even more frenzied after each 3 by Gerry. By the sixth, I thought there would be a riot. But of course Kansas staged their comeback and the place died down a bit. By the midpoint of the second half we all thought we were seeing a classic Syracuse collapse. But with 2 minutes left we felt like we could do it. One of the strongest memories was everyone locking arms all around the dome with whoever was next to them as we waited out the missed foul shots of the last few minutes. Warrick’s block brought the house down. When the last three fell into the arms of Duany, I basically blacked out. I don’t remember anything other than hugging, screaming, and rushing the football field. I got my bearings outside, when I called my parents and told them I was outside the Dome. Their reaction was “Oh no…he’s outside the Dome.”
Marshall Street was chaos. Again with the naked people, specifically the guy in the tree. Fires were set, but at least there were some naked females to counteract the naked dudes. The girls in our group were getting crabby so we decided to pile back in the Jeep. The blizzard had ended and we settled in for the drive in a state of euphoria. I ended up just asking to drop me off at my parent’s house and I’d crash there and come back the next day. My forensic science exam suffered thanks to this decision, but at 7:00 in the morning I went to Wegmans, and got the last 6 copies of the Post-Standard for the day, which I still have in my closet.
My future wedding day and my future child’s birth have alot to live up to.
by ncorange on Nov 25, 2008 12:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So will you name your child
Hakim if it’s a boy and Plumper if it’s a girl?
by Sean Keeley on Nov 25, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My girlfriend has already put the kibosh on naming our future children Gerry, Carmelo, or Boeheim. She’s from Boston and not a fan, so I may do an end-around and try to name the child Lazarus or Preston.
by ncorange on Nov 26, 2008 1:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hoboken!
Was at my (then) apartment in Hoboken with my (then) roommate, also a ‘Cuse alum but not a sports fan. I was so nervous I kept running back and forth switching TVs I was watching (’cause that was the reason if we missed a shot, they scored, etc) and at one point my roomie said “You’re more fun to watch than the game!”
Wore a Cuse shirt to work the next day which didn’t exactly fit within the dress code but luckily my boss tolerated it.
by sportzbelle on Nov 25, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's the short of the long . . . .
I went.
From what I am told, it was fun.
I’ll throw out the full story in a “FanPost” so as to not clog up the comments.
There is nothing better than giving Jimmy B. a high five on Bourbon Street post victory.
by Hoya Suxa on Nov 25, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Was sitting in the top deck of the Superdome. The Texas and Marquette fans seemed to adopt us, at least those they stayed. The Kansas fans were a bunch of weird creepos, or maybe that was their Rock Chalk Jayhawk chant, whatever. The first half was an absolute high, like being drunk and tripping all at once. The halftime was the longest half of my life, something like 2 hours from what I remember. Or it just felt that way. The 2nd half was all of us sitting in the cheaper ticket SU student section up high holding on for dear life. The last two minutes were incredible and my buddy had the nerve to mention the words Derrick and Coleman. We slapped him. Once Hakim swatted Lee’s shot and then Heinrich’s prayer landed in Kueth’s arms, we were batshit crazy. I think we stayed in the SUperdome another hour or two. Once we finally got outside, we saw Donovan McNabb, shook his hand and departed for Bourbon Street, which was an incredible mix of drunken happy SU fans, drunken sad Kansas fans, drunken fat Marquette fans and Emeka Okafor picking his nose (I’ve got a picture somewhere). We stayed on Bourbon until 3 AM or so and then had to get back in the tiny car for the drive back to SU. That was the greatest drive of our lives.
I will never forget that weekend!
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 25, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I went back home and watched with my dad
There was a really bad ice storm in Rochester that weekend, which left me without power (or heat) at my apartment. So I drove back home to my parents’ house about an hour away for both the semifinal and final. I got power back at my place around noon on Tuesday, the day after the finals.
It makes it easy to remember when the “last really bad ice storm” was.
by MrPlow99 on Nov 25, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
stupid ex-girlfriend
I don’t remember where I was for each game during the tourney, but I remember debating on whether or not to watch the National Championship at a bar, and risk crying in public (regardless of the outcome), or taking it all in from my couch (where I lived with my now ex-girlfriend). I chose the latter and I still regret that decision.
Hakim makes the block. The last second 3 doesn’t go in. And I’m sitting on my couch too caught up in emotions to do anything but cling to a pillow. My ex turns to me and says, in a tone of voice that I still want to slap her for, “Enjoy it!” and turns away. still angry as typing
I should have broken up with her right then, as I ripped off my close to run naked in the streets. But instead we tried to make it work for another year, or some crap like that.
But I’ve since made up for this moment, watching and re-watching the end of the game, and tearing up whenever I look at The Block.
by voteprime on Nov 25, 2008 3:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lesson, as always....
don’t date anyone. Ever.
by Sean Keeley on Nov 25, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere in Tennessee
I was at the University of the South (aka Sewanee, in Sewanee, TN), with my best friend visiting his older brother who was a sophomore there at the time. We were on our spring break, and stopped by on our way up from seeing my older sister in Birmingham, AL. My dad is a Syracuse alum, so I was pulling pretty hard for the Orange(men), but my friend’s older brother and his buddies were rooting for Kansas (for some crazy, unknown reason).
As the game went on, and I kept getting more excited and louder, the suddenly-Jayhawk fans kept getting more pissed, like they were all lifelong KU diehards. It culminated when I jumped about 3 feet out of the recliner I was sitting in when “The Block” happened, and I got icy glares from these bandwagon jumpers. The game ended, and they let me watch the nets being cut down for a bit, but then they switched the channel to some weird ass movie about this dude who has gender identity problems and has a sex change operation… yeah.
It’s too bad I didn’t get to watch it with my dad, but we had a beer and a cigar when I got home the next day. I think the next best thing about that championship is that, being from Kentucky (and thus having to live around UK fans), I would never have to hear from those motherf***ers about 1996 ever again.
by redsoxshamrocks on Nov 25, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not to digress too much
I think the next best thing about that championship is that, being from Kentucky (and thus having to live around UK fans), I would never have to hear from those motherf***ers about 1996 ever again.
I still remember being in a Lids store (probably in the Maryland suburbs of DC) probably not too long after the loss to Kentucky. I mentioned to the clerk that I was looking for a Syracuse hat and he said something like, “Man, those guys really choked in the championship.” Seriously, Lids guy?! Little Voteprime had to try and explain to this man how there was no way SU should have been in the championship game in the first place, and the fact that they were in the final game until close to the end is a near miracle (I mean, Lazarus friggin’ Sims with a bandaged wrist?! What teams almost wins a championship with an injured Lazarus Sims running the floor?)
by voteprime on Nov 25, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh jesus
Don’t get me started on the 1996 team. John Wallace is a GOD to me.
Anyone remember the coast to coast vs. Georgia in the semifinal game??!?
I’ve spent the last 30 mins searching for it on youtube…..no luck.
by Cody K on Nov 25, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And for those of you that missed that game...
Just read this article.
So badass. John Wallace was a complete animal that entire tournament. He just played out of his mind and was so head and shoulders better than everyone else in the entire tournament.
by Cody K on Nov 25, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fievel Mousekewitz
I love all these stories. And just think, most of us didn’t know each other, but even still, that night we were all somewhere out there, enjoying this SU victory together, underneath the same big sky. And even though I know how very far apart we are, it helps to think we might be wishing on the same bright star…as we watch the Kansas game tonight.
by voteprime on Nov 25, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Will try to re-capture the magic tonight
Because during the game in 2003, I was in Puerto Rico for work. I watched at a teeny bar in old San Juan with 2 pilots from Kansas and a Puerto Rican bartender. Needless to say, it wasn’t the most fun celebration ever (the bartender didn’ t know what was going on, but he did a tequila shot with me).
For the Final Four game, a much older gentleman who I was doing work for down there pulled me away from my work that night and told my boss that he didn’t care how busy we were, my team was in the Final Four and I needed to see it. He said he had overheard me talking about being an SU grad and how I was a huge fan. He watched the game with me, but barely registered any emotion. He high-fived me me when SU won, and that was about it. I asked him if he went to SU as well. He looked at me and said, “No. Georgetown.”
As much as I hate Georgetown, I thought it was a pretty classy thing to do in helping me get out of work to see the game, and watching with me so I didn’t have to watch alone.
by TeddyOrange on Nov 25, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Living in DC
with a large contingent of Syracuse natives. In the early 00s a reasonably-sized group of friends who’d all gone to Nottingham together ended up living in the DC metro area. (This group included several members of the future Cuse Country staff.) We watched most of the games together, though not always at the same place. The ones that were on the local affiliate we watched at the house where two of the throng lived. Other times we went out to various sports bars, which in DC generally means “a bar with a bunch of TVs”. There are not many true Sports Bars in the District, though a couple have opened recently. Anyway. For the championship, some of the crowd decided to go home to Syracuse. I, being too responsible for my own good, decided not to go. I had to go teach in the morning. To this day I regret the decision.
I ended up in my apartment with my roommate (who also skipped the trip). Having watched all the other games with a minimum of four other fans, it would be weird to have it just be the two of us so I invited over a couple friends who were sports fans but did not have a strong rooting interest in the game. They graciously agreed to cheer for SU on our behalf. At halftime my roommate and I were super-pumped; towards the end we were piles of raw nerves. I don’t remember much detail other than the fact that when the final buzzer sounded we tackled each other in the hallway of our apartment while my friends looked on bemused. (It’s OK, one was a Red Sox fan and got her moment soon enough.)
Then I went to work the next day wearing my orange tie, bought as much National Championship gear as I could afford (hat, shirt, sweatshirt, shotglass, license plate frame, mousepad, DVDs), and subscribed to Sports Illustrated so I could get the commemorative stuff.
by SyraJosh on Nov 25, 2008 4:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bribing judges!
Born & Raised in Cuse (although I had moved away to Indiana & New England for a couple year spurts in the process), and I remember all those times as a child demolishing whatever I could… toys, video games, walls, you name it… whenever SU dropped a big game. We’re talking about an 8, 9, 12 year old kid having full fledged anxiety attacks when they lost, somehow transferring the team’s identity onto my own self-identity… therefore, I’d always be pretty good, but would always choke in the clutch and never get to the top of the mountain. This permeated my self esteem from a young age. As the years passed and I collected “Tournament Runner-up” trophies and “All-CNY Honorable Mention” awards, simply being second rate was the mesh underneath my flesh.
By the time 2003 came around, I was a Junior at a medium sized business school in Rhode Island. Boston had long ago become my adopted professional sports city from a young age, a silly thing happened where the Patriots won a shocking Super Bowl, and all the extra-curricular activities in which I was involved started winning whatever awards or competitions in which they competed. Even my club hockey team (I transferred from an ECAC DII team after some freshman year trouble) made an improbable run to its first league championship. Somewhere during my sophomore year, I joined a cultish organization in which we did nothing but presented all these community outreach projects we supposedly did or were planning to do in a competitive format. The Regional Championships, which were in Hartford, were the day following. So I’m sitting in a room for the whole first half of the game with the presentation team, and our little tag-along professor, swilling beers and interrupting our “rehearsal” for a steady stream of “F* Yah!’s” and “DID YOU SEE THAT” to a bunch of people who really didn’t care, but were scared to tell me since… well, maybe there were scared.
At halftime I confronted the whole team, basically telling them that we had practiced too much, and this was bigger than them. So I bolted down to the hotel bar. Sure enough, there’s a crowd around all the TV’s and as it so happens, they are all the judges for the competition. Two of them were SU alums, another was a Manhattan alum (we beat them in Rd. 1). They were all cheering for ‘Cuse. Needless to say, the farrago of booze, exuberance and testosterone made me a complete abomination. i erupted in a cacophony of screaming, gasping, wheezing, laughing, bawling… and my half of the bar couldn’t have loved it more. I ended up buying the whole bar a round so that Syracuse’s win was everyone’s win.
Sure enough, the next morning, literally half of the judges were my new buddies from the night before. We received record scores.
Unfortunately, with my sense of self fully redeemed since that night, I’ve been a boisterous a*hole ever since.
Cuse by 4 tonight.
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